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Post by rustyjohnson on Dec 3, 2016 0:34:30 GMT -5
Because they rerelease stuff noone wants. Rerelease Diesel. Re-release some good figures people want. I agree with you somewhat Overall re releases (or pretty close to straight re releases) E19 HBK - this was a highly sought after figure BEFORE the WM 14 Elite came out and various other Elite HBK's. Waste of a spot. Could've been an easy repaint of his many attires E23 Undertaker - with the massive failure of the DM reissue, I'm not sure why they would put out Elite 23 again, but they did. Waste of a spot to me (but I'm not really an Undertaker guy) Could've been E12 Kane L4? Kamala - it's hard to criticize this figure, because IMO it is one of Mattels best ever BUT Kamala was never high on the secondary market (loose) and I don't think there's a huge Kamala fan base that was demanding a chance to get him again. As was mentioned on here before, I thought it might have just been WWE throwing him a bone. With all his medical issues and whatnot, but he is on the lawsuit so I doubt that In reality probably a waste, could've gone to L6 Eddie Guerrero or Bret Hart DM (w/o the accessories) or something L6 Warrrior - prices and demand were sky high for this figure before. Have zero issues with this rerelease One of the biggest matches in the history of the WWE/F. I'd welcome another rerelease of it in a 2 pack with Hogan whenever he comes back. Legends Matty DDP - was a little demand for it but in that era of DDP, he had much more color combos they could've changed up. Fail of a rerelease IMO. May not have had time though because of IRS not coming back good enough. Don't know. L2? George Steele - Best decision ever not putting him back on Targets shelves to rot SDCC Taker - epic fail or epic job of over producing. Not sure. Great figure though! LOL RSC Austin/DM Austin - close enough but the switched up a couple things. Plus 3 VAC belts. Win, win. (Just a major loss of the DM Hollywood figure) E14 Bossman - this one got me. This figure was high dollar and highly demanded (I thought). Really can't believe it warm so bad Guess it was a waste in retrospect but I don't blame them for trying to give us something that was tough to come by. And very few changes could've been made to him My thoughts are maybe once a year in the regular Elite line, maybe give us a rerelease E17 Mankind, L5 Macho, E12 Kane, E16 Nash (that not everyone got a real good chance at), E16 Diesel. Or none at all. I personally like that some stuff is valuable and hard to acquire. Keeps things interesting HBK - eh waste I agree Taker - Now I'll be glad when this shows up. I want two for some customs. Bossman could have used the bret hart jacket, NEW head, black cap, glasses and nightstick for face bossman (you can even skip the jacket)... I think Kamala was a giving him some royalties cuz his life has hit hard times but then he joins the lawsuit so...go figure lol But I think it is the best figure (my only gripe was him not having the spear. Warrior. I'd rather have had that new one here and no papa shango rerelease. DDp sucked originally and sucked again. WHY is he smiling? I get it - but why? GS - he's still coming...L5 lol but I don't think steele is gonna sell AT ALL. It's too bad mattel can't do like warner made on demand, where you just order the fig. Undertaker. Funny only one tru near me got them and they had like 20 forever and then they dwindled away...but they sat there for a LONG TIME. I was like "well, THAT was a mistake" DM Austin - one of the biggest rotters ive ever seen. I'm sure we've (canadians) missed cena and warior because of austin. The only rereleases they should do are maybe an odd number of older RSC figs if pre-order demand was high enough...kinda like what happened on mattyshop with the ectomobile (I knew that wasn't gonna happen)...
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Post by thelostweekend on Dec 3, 2016 0:59:46 GMT -5
At this point, the well is running dry on figures Mattel could churn out again to cash in on secondary market popularity, so I think it'll soon be a moot point anyway. Right now, SES Punk, nWo Savage, and E12 Kane are the only Elites still commanding some lofty prices. Everything else can be found at the cost of an Elite at retail or about what you'd pay for a RSC pre-order these days.
I don't mind a retooled E12 Kane, but I think the RSC exclusives should be off limits. Part of the justification for charging $30 before shipping on a glorified mainline Elite figure is that it's a limited run that'll be gone for good once they sell out.
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Post by Old School Collector on Dec 3, 2016 1:14:09 GMT -5
I would like to see E12 Kane re-released. Not exact to a 'T' re-release, because I don't thinknit's fair to ones that own the original (I don't), but this is really the only one that I currently don't have, that I'd actually want released again. I'll get the E12 one day, but it isn't really high on my list atm.
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Dec 3, 2016 1:51:19 GMT -5
Whatever you wanna call the em (44B, Legends, Lost Legends) it seems like the re-releases within this series weren't as sought after as everyone suspected. Every one can be bought on RSC right now for no more than $13 and have been able to be obtained elsewhere for under $10. Combined that with figures like Network Bossman, E36 DDP, and DM Taker we can safely conclude that straight re-releases (or minor repaints) do not sell regardless of how popular the figure was during its original release. I know there are a few re-releases planned in upcoming lines (King Booker, Papa Shango, George Steele) but can these please be the last ones we see. And I am not advocating that if someone missed out on a popular character then their only option is to pay inflated prices or do without. But instead of re-releasing, for example, the same nWo Savage, repaint the figure in one of his many other nWo attires.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 3:46:05 GMT -5
These are toys. $20 toys. They're going to rerelease things, because the line isnt directed towards collectors.
I hope they rerelease alot of older figures. Some didnt collect at the begining. Some say its not fair to those who have them..but its also not fair to those who have to pay exuberant prices.
Its a double edged sword. In the end, mattel is one of..if not, the biggest toys company's in te world. If they want to or wwe wants rereleases..so be it.
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Post by thelostweekend on Dec 3, 2016 5:51:15 GMT -5
I think the point of the thread is whether or not it's even a sound business move by Mattel to keep up with this trend of reissuing older figures. DM Undertaker and Network Spotlight Boss Man are two clear examples of figures demanding big bucks on the secondary market and then floundering at retail after they were reissued.
I've seen the Lost Legends series in quite a few locations and unsurprisingly, Magnum TA is the one most frequently missing from the pegs. Plenty of Undertaker and Shawn Michaels figures, though, which is wholly unsurprising, since I remember the originals being fairly easy finds three years ago.
There's no secret formula to figure out what will and won't move at retail when it comes to reissues, so I don't necessarily blame Mattel for giving it a shot. But I still feel like what we're seeing in many areas is that the First Time in the Line guys and the repaints move faster than the straight-up reissues and figures that have very subtle changes from the original.
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Post by micco on Dec 3, 2016 8:24:52 GMT -5
The nwo battle pack that's being re released is sure to warm. They warmed the first time around where I live.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 3, 2016 9:22:31 GMT -5
The nwo battle pack that's being re released is sure to warm. They warmed the first time around where I live. The Hall & Nash NWO BP? Is that getting re released?
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Post by tylergfromthe513 on Dec 3, 2016 10:56:02 GMT -5
'Exotic' Adrian StreetYeah the very same one. I will admit I missed out and I want it for the Nash head. Want a hair down look for my Wolfpac Nash. Gonna repaint it.
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Post by rustyjohnson on Dec 3, 2016 13:15:55 GMT -5
'Exotic' Adrian Street Yeah the very same one. I will admit I missed out and I want it for the Nash head. Want a hair down look for my Wolfpac Nash. Gonna repaint it. Yeah if I get tha nash lol I'll do the same...they should replace the scott hall head with that newer one though.
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Post by kgchampion on Dec 3, 2016 15:11:07 GMT -5
I haven't seen anything past the 123 Kid wave outside Gamestop and Walgreens.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 17:19:58 GMT -5
The beauty of threads like these, is that most of those complaining that rereleases are bad for the line...are the same ones that want the most obscure characters made.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 18:54:19 GMT -5
I'm not reading through 3 pages, but has anyone mentioned all the Basic re-releases that have been, especially those in the Wal-Mart box sets that always seem to move and not stick around. Even the Basics that are re-released in later waves or Battle Packs.
Seems like people are bummed about...what...six Elites?
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 3, 2016 19:08:25 GMT -5
I'm not reading through 3 pages, but has anyone mentioned all the Basic re-releases that have been, especially those in the Wal-Mart box sets that always seem to move and not stick around. Even the Basics that are re-released in later waves or Battle Packs. Seems like people are bummed about...what...six Elites? More people than not on here don't really care about Basics and the Elites don't have as many slots as Basics do. So when they waste say E19 HBK in an Elite spot without a simple repaint it sucks. Also when they rerelease a Basic I think we are more happy that they didn't waste another attire (repaint) on it, so that way we may still have a shot at an Elite LOL
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Post by tylergfromthe513 on Dec 3, 2016 20:19:38 GMT -5
rustyjohnsonLol I know right. They're not getting any use out of it otherwise. It would be nice to get it switched up. Maybe repaint the Nash hair to a correct shade too for us. It would make it way more worth it imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 20:31:32 GMT -5
The only re release i want is dm 1 savage so i can have a good m.o.c dm wm7 savage in a figure defender plastic case.
Otherwise im with you. I think any re releases should have some kind of change.
Even a different shade of purple for undertaker would have been enough for me to buy another A change in kamalas facepaint or skirt
A small color variation in hbks tights
The yellow i.c strap for warrior or a different head sculpt
The d.m taker had pupils at least but some other color change in the logos on the tights or somethinf would have helped
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Dec 4, 2016 0:12:54 GMT -5
The only re release i want is dm 1 savage so i can have a good m.o.c dm wm7 savage in a figure defender plastic case. Otherwise im with you. I think any re releases should have some kind of change. Even a different shade of purple for undertaker would have been enough for me to buy another A change in kamalas facepaint or skirt A small color variation in hbks tights The yellow i.c strap for warrior or a different head sculpt The d.m taker had pupils at least but some other color change in the logos on the tights or somethinf would have helped Both Takers had color changes
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Post by bharrisfan on Dec 5, 2016 16:09:50 GMT -5
Ya the lost legend taker has a more purple purple.
I owned all the figs, but bought taker, hbk, & warrior again bc they are all improvements. hbk has more hearts taker more purple warriors face i think is more accurately painte (or the original was more accurate I can't remember. one of them has the more accurate heavier black & y2j & magnum were must releases.
Also I agree tho MDT shouldve gone farther. like: kneepads for HBK and then other stuff that's probably too costly for what the purpose of the wave was
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 14:11:03 GMT -5
Whatever you wanna call the em (44B, Legends, Lost Legends) it seems like the re-releases within this series weren't as sought after as everyone suspected. Every one can be bought on RSC right now for no more than $13 and have been able to be obtained elsewhere for under $10. Combined that with figures like Network Bossman, E36 DDP, and DM Taker we can safely conclude that straight re-releases (or minor repaints) do not sell regardless of how popular the figure was during its original release. I know there are a few re-releases planned in upcoming lines (King Booker, Papa Shango, George Steele) but can these please be the last ones we see. And I am not advocating that if someone missed out on a popular character then their only option is to pay inflated prices or do without. But instead of re-releasing, for example, the same nWo Savage, repaint the figure in one of his many other nWo attires. No idea where you are located but around here those series were very hard to find and sold very well. Also I am not sure were a lot of you are getting these ideas that mattel can only have X amount of figures come out per year and that's it. These re-releases don't do any harm at all aside from the negativity surrounding the idea. Also if I want a a figure I missed and Mattel is going to re-release it so I don't have to pay some idiot on here a lot of money then please do it! I have said it quiet a lot on here if your main source of income is finding action figures and scalping the price then you need to find yourself a real job. You know one where you clock in, have retirement options, health insurance...not trolling toy stores in hopes of ripping someone off. Alseo RSC is not the measuring stick for the rest of the retail world. And the recently released Legends series has not dropped below 15 in retail regardless of what facts you have made up.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 6, 2016 14:21:00 GMT -5
Whatever you wanna call the em (44B, Legends, Lost Legends) it seems like the re-releases within this series weren't as sought after as everyone suspected. Every one can be bought on RSC right now for no more than $13 and have been able to be obtained elsewhere for under $10. Combined that with figures like Network Bossman, E36 DDP, and DM Taker we can safely conclude that straight re-releases (or minor repaints) do not sell regardless of how popular the figure was during its original release. I know there are a few re-releases planned in upcoming lines (King Booker, Papa Shango, George Steele) but can these please be the last ones we see. And I am not advocating that if someone missed out on a popular character then their only option is to pay inflated prices or do without. But instead of re-releasing, for example, the same nWo Savage, repaint the figure in one of his many other nWo attires. No idea where you are located but around here those series were very hard to find and sold very well. Also I am not sure were a lot of you are getting these ideas that mattel can only have X amount of figures come out per year and that's it. These re-releases don't do any harm at all aside from the negativity surrounding the idea. Also if I want a a figure I missed and Mattel is going to re-release it so I don't have to pay some idiot on here a lot of money then please do it! I have said it quiet a lot on here if your main source of income is finding action figures and scalping the price then you need to find yourself a real job. You know one where you clock in, have retirement options, health insurance...not trolling toy stores in hopes of ripping someone off. Alseo RSC is not the measuring stick for the rest of the retail world. And the recently released Legends series has not dropped below 15 in retail regardless of what facts you have made up. You're right. They aren't the measuring stick on the retail world. The big A is. And Legends Rereleases are cheap AF on there! As are 95% of the other re release figures that are constantly mentioned Hence, change them up a little. Repaint them
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