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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 13, 2017 16:02:29 GMT -5
That's it? Which PBM are you? It's driving me nuts. Anvil Fan? *clears throat* I miss Anvil Fan, he was a good dude. I loved him like I love myself.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 13, 2017 16:10:39 GMT -5
Previously Banned Member. Do you 'member? I 'member.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 16:38:39 GMT -5
Beginning to think we're all the same person.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jan 13, 2017 17:43:58 GMT -5
I disagree. I actually felt like Bret was the one who shouldn't have made it as far as he did, and Owen should have made it farther. To me Bret Hart was the most boring wrestler. I never liked him, I never liked his matches, I certainly never liked his promos. When I was a kid, I was the babyface fan, and I was rooting for OWEN! To me Owen is one of the unsung greats. He was a fantastic heel, and a really good babyface as well. Bret had no charisma, Owen had loads, and he was an amazing wrestler. Owen had it all.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 13, 2017 17:50:09 GMT -5
Beginning to think we're all the same person.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jan 14, 2017 19:57:50 GMT -5
maybe it's because he's dead and he may not ever get a Mattel figure. look at Benoit, if he hadn't have done what he did and was still alive today he may not be as overrated as I might think he is
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Post by ZDB on Jan 14, 2017 20:54:23 GMT -5
maybe it's because he's dead and he may not ever get a Mattel figure. look at Benoit, if he hadn't have done what he did and was still alive today he may not be as overrated as I might think he is Difference is Owen didn't do much but had incredible potential. Benoit was on the back 9 of his career after he main evented and won a WM title match
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Post by MWFD on Jan 16, 2017 15:47:41 GMT -5
I understand what OP is saying and agree. Owen was a great in-ring worker, no doubt, and from all accounts, an even better human being and husband/father/friend. With that said, OP's point is well taken. He was only in the main event for a few months in '94 and although he is responsible for some great matches, his career was never quite on the level of Bret/Shawn/Undertaker of the time period. I do think his premature passing created a level of hype that, unfortunately, is the nature of the beast. Owen was fantastic and deserved an even better spot on the card than he actually got, but I don't know that the hype for an Owen figure would be what it is had he not passed so young. That's not a bad thing though; just an observation. But no one is saying he was on the same level of Bret/HBK/Taker. He's a guy that was remembered fondly and people want a figure of him. I don't think he's ever mentioned in anyone's conversations of top 10 all time wrestlers or even top 20. Andy Kaufman is my biggest want right now. That does not mean I think he is the greatest wrestler of all time. I think you're missing my point. OP's point was that Owen was never "in the top A-list of stars" and "was never over like Stone Cold, HBK, Bret, etc." and I simply agreed with him. This is why I brought up the class of Bret/Shawn/Undertaker - because OP did first and to echo his statement.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Jan 16, 2017 16:53:28 GMT -5
But no one is saying he was on the same level of Bret/HBK/Taker. He's a guy that was remembered fondly and people want a figure of him. I don't think he's ever mentioned in anyone's conversations of top 10 all time wrestlers or even top 20. Andy Kaufman is my biggest want right now. That does not mean I think he is the greatest wrestler of all time. I think you're missing my point. OP's point was that Owen was never "in the top A-list of stars" and "was never over like Stone Cold, HBK, Bret, etc." and I simply agreed with him. This is why I brought up the class of Bret/Shawn/Undertaker - because OP did first and to echo his statement. I think what most people took umbrage with was the fact he used the word, "bandwagon". Eff that. That statement was only made to make people mad. People here have been clamoring for an Owen figure since the original lot of us were over at AFR, so to say that the "Owen Deserves a Figure" sentiment is a new one that has "bandwagoners" jumping on it, is ignorant, and to some degree, offensive.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jan 16, 2017 18:25:19 GMT -5
But no one is saying he was on the same level of Bret/HBK/Taker. He's a guy that was remembered fondly and people want a figure of him. I don't think he's ever mentioned in anyone's conversations of top 10 all time wrestlers or even top 20. Andy Kaufman is my biggest want right now. That does not mean I think he is the greatest wrestler of all time. I think you're missing my point. OP's point was that Owen was never "in the top A-list of stars" and "was never over like Stone Cold, HBK, Bret, etc." and I simply agreed with him. This is why I brought up the class of Bret/Shawn/Undertaker - because OP did first and to echo his statement. But the title of the thread is suggesting Owen in overrrated and then goes on to say because he died he's remembered more than what he actually was. Simply not true because I don't think anyone holds him in the same regards as the greatest ever.
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Post by dod0411 on Jan 16, 2017 20:23:52 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 20:37:22 GMT -5
I think you're missing my point. OP's point was that Owen was never "in the top A-list of stars" and "was never over like Stone Cold, HBK, Bret, etc." and I simply agreed with him. This is why I brought up the class of Bret/Shawn/Undertaker - because OP did first and to echo his statement. But the title of the thread is suggesting Owen in overrrated and then goes on to say because he died he's remembered more than what he actually was. Simply not true because I don't think anyone holds him in the same regards as the greatest ever. Someone probably does, but I don't really find it any more strange than those who say Bret is the greatest ever. The question is, are there a lot of people claiming Owen was the GOAT? No. I think the whole overrated/underrated argument is pretty f'ing stupid. What this thread has is a mix of people who love Owen and a bunch of other people who think we're being unreasonable. Obviously, when I watch Owen, I get more out of it than some of the people in this thread. I laugh more. I'm more entertained. Other people watch the same thing and don't see what I see. That doesn't mean Owen is overrated or underrated. It just means we have a different ing opinion.
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Post by kgchampion on Jan 17, 2017 15:40:49 GMT -5
Dude was one of those rare guys that could fill any spot on the card if needed. Need a tag team? Put Owen with Yoko or Bulldog. Need a new stable for the Nation? Owen. Need a villain for champ Bret? Owen. The dude could do anything. He's kinda like the original Christian.
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Post by qdogg on Jan 17, 2017 16:14:52 GMT -5
Owen was a solid performer for his whole career. Did he benefit from being Bret's brother absolutely but nepotisms are a huge part of wrestling. Had great matches with some of the best in the business and was a huge part of the WWE.
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