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Post by newgenandy on Jan 20, 2017 15:21:32 GMT -5
As a kid I say go for it, open them up and play with them. I did it as an 8-12 year old when Hasbro's were released and didn't regret it at all playing with them, but as you get older and buy them to collect and not play with, I say keep them in the packaging. I now look back and regret ever opening mine as a kid, but back then its what you did, you are a child and want to play with them, its natural. I'm 33 and I still play with mine |
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Post by figurehumble on Jan 21, 2017 21:30:09 GMT -5
I also like to send letters with very rare stamps. I often send envelopes with an Inverted Jenny on them - after all they are stamps and it's a shame not to see them being used as stamps  |
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Post by jsmells on Jan 21, 2017 21:45:32 GMT -5
I like my loose collection loose when I buy or jacked cards. I like my MOCs to be pristine. I like both for different reasons. Loose because they're fun and cheaper usually. MOC because I appreciate the graphic design aspect and the flashback of seeing the cards. There's nostalgia on both sides.
But that said, if it's yours it's yours so whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 9:04:29 GMT -5
There are enough loose examples. Sell your MOC and buy loose. That way a MOC collector will buy them and keep them MOC.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 22, 2017 22:58:44 GMT -5
Free them from their plastic Prison cell
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Post by juniordaddyo on Jan 24, 2017 16:44:51 GMT -5
There are enough loose examples. Sell your MOC and buy loose. That way a MOC collector will buy them and keep them MOC. AGREED! |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Feb 6, 2017 9:15:58 GMT -5
Sometimes you can find MOCs at price or cheaper than an advertised as "mint/loose" figure. Then you know it's really mint, and no chances on what your getting. Especially if you can find a really beat to crap basically undisplayable card. I just bought a purple tights Razor this morning for $37 and free shipping. Package looks beat to crap, but figure looks fine for loose display.
I see the argument of keeping the MOCs out there, but if I were buying for my own collection I'd rather be patient and find MOCs at great prices and open them for a loose display.
I know there are big acceptions out there like Dusty and Demolition 2-pack that are WAY cheaper loose. But on a lot of them there isn't a huge price difference sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:13:28 GMT -5
I don't think I could watch anyone open say, a green card figure. Respect for the classics! Agreed, if the card is damaged badly, go for it.
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Post by humanitarianaryan on Feb 8, 2017 18:50:35 GMT -5
I would say DO NOT open the 123 Kid. Trade with someone who has a MINT loose and have them throw in $25-35. That seems very fair. This way each collector gets what they're looking for.
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Post by Boon on Feb 8, 2017 22:52:04 GMT -5
I was debating whether or not to open my Mattels. I have a bunch MOC and a bunch loose, but decided to open them all and display on shelves. I do not regret the decision and the Mattel boxes were much easier to display than Hasbros. With that said, Hasbros are obviously older and carry a higher value if that matters to you. I have about 95% of the entire Hasbro collection but loose. Your loose collection is a work of art bro |
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 10, 2017 11:25:09 GMT -5
I would say DO NOT open the 123 Kid. Trade with someone who has a MINT loose and have them throw in $25-35. That seems very fair. This way each collector gets what they're looking for. I say that part of the fun is in opening them and why should these toys sit rotting on someone's shelf when people want to use them for their intended purpose, ie playing I find buying something with an actual purpose just to look at quite bizarre...you wouldnt buy a dyson and then sit looking at it would you? |
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Post by CookPassBabtridge on Feb 10, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -5
Firstly I say, to each his own. Me personally, I like my figures loose. The only MOC Hasbro I have is a signed Bret. My other Hasbros are all lose and displayed on shelves. When they're in the packaging, they may as well just be a photograph of it. I like to be able to pick them up and touch them every now and again. Although my playing days are behind me, I want the option there that if I do decide to ever have another Royal Rumble, that the lads are there ready to go. Onto the question at hand, I wouldn't personally open a MOC figure now. when I couldn't find a 'taker #2 & purple razor loose, I bought them MOC for about the same price as id seen them go for loose. But the magic wasn't there. I ended up selling them a year or two later (for a great profit, I might add  ) and tracking down some loosies. But I couldn't bring myself to take them out the packaging. I could imagine a MOC collector finding out and crying on my doorstep. So yeah, loose Hasbros for me, but I wouldn't open MOC. |
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Post by vintagetoycoop on Feb 10, 2017 17:30:52 GMT -5
I would say DO NOT open the 123 Kid. Trade with someone who has a MINT loose and have them throw in $25-35. That seems very fair. This way each collector gets what they're looking for. I say that part of the fun is in opening them and why should these toys sit rotting on someone's shelf when people want to use them for their intended purpose, ie playing I find buying something with an actual purpose just to look at quite bizarre...you wouldnt buy a dyson and then sit looking at it would you? For those of us that collect seriously it's about preserving the figures and collecting things of value, among other things. For me personally I love having so many of them MOC as it's also a reminder of seeing them in the toy stores as a kid and also seeing ones that were never released in stores in Australia. If you want to open the ones you buy that's your decision. The ones that I own and that many other people own are cared for, appreciated and certainly not "rotting". I don't think people who collect vintage cars, for example, are seen to be letting their collections "rot" because they look after them and don't go driving them off road and running them into the ground. |
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Post by figurehumble on Feb 11, 2017 0:13:14 GMT -5
The Dyson analogy is not a good one.
The "purpose" of items changes with age and rarity ... this reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine eats the old cake from King Edward's wedding.
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Post by jsmells on Feb 11, 2017 9:11:19 GMT -5
If you open and are acting confused as to why people don't open, you know the why's. The whole package can be viewed with artistic merit, I love the combination of the card design with the figure etc. Or they want the value or enjoy owning something "rare". Those are the 3 main reasons.
If you leave them MOC and are confused why people open, there have been some solid explanations in this thread. I wasn't sure honestly, I thought "isn't it cheaper to buy loose just do that?" but if someone found it MOC cheaper, well there it is. Or if they're super OCD about mint/loose there's that.
I'm someone who has loose and MOC. My loose have always been cheaper and as long as there's not INSANE damage or wear I'm fine with them. I like some MOC, can't go complete I don't have the space. But there's a nostalgia to the full package, like when I saw them in the store. I enjoy the graphic design aspect as well, and I like the back of the cards. Loose, it's fun to hold them and mess with the actions.
There's pro's to both. I think most MOC collectors don't like seeing their pool of availability depleted by openers opening them when there are loose ones available. That's the main, real complaint.
As someone with all the MOC's I want, OPEN AWAY! Makes mine even "rarer" and I'm not getting rid of them anytime soon.
Now to those who open just to watch others cringe. Well done. Troll level 10.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 11, 2017 12:49:27 GMT -5
I say that part of the fun is in opening them and why should these toys sit rotting on someone's shelf when people want to use them for their intended purpose, ie playing I find buying something with an actual purpose just to look at quite bizarre...you wouldnt buy a dyson and then sit looking at it would you? For those of us that collect seriously it's about preserving the figures and collecting things of value, among other things. For me personally I love having so many of them MOC as it's also a reminder of seeing them in the toy stores as a kid and also seeing ones that were never released in stores in Australia. If you want to open the ones you buy that's your decision. The ones that I own and that many other people own are cared for, appreciated and certainly not "rotting". I don't think people who collect vintage cars, for example, are seen to be letting their collections "rot" because they look after them and don't go driving them off road and running them into the ground. So I don't collect seriously? As that's what your opening statement eludes to. I would consider browsing eBay and other sites daily, weekly attending car boots (flea market equivalent in the uk), other markets and retro stores / toy fares ONLY looking for hasbros to be a 'serious collector' I just prefer my 'serious collection' to be unboxed so I can hold and view from all angles. Perfect #2 has the back of his singlet painted which is ment to be seen, not just the front or side through packaging. Always amused me how judgemental the box collectors are over unboxed collectors. But I'll accept your a much better bigger snd more important collector than I am s you collect mib. I only wish I could be as cool as you |
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Post by master_fuji on Feb 11, 2017 15:15:51 GMT -5
For those of us that collect seriously it's about preserving the figures and collecting things of value, among other things. For me personally I love having so many of them MOC as it's also a reminder of seeing them in the toy stores as a kid and also seeing ones that were never released in stores in Australia. If you want to open the ones you buy that's your decision. The ones that I own and that many other people own are cared for, appreciated and certainly not "rotting". I don't think people who collect vintage cars, for example, are seen to be letting their collections "rot" because they look after them and don't go driving them off road and running them into the ground. So I don't collect seriously? As that's what your opening statement eludes to. I would consider browsing eBay and other sites daily, weekly attending car boots (flea market equivalent in the uk), other markets and retro stores / toy fares ONLY looking for hasbros to be a 'serious collector' I just prefer my 'serious collection' to be unboxed so I can hold and view from all angles. Perfect #2 has the back of his singlet painted which is ment to be seen, not just the front or side through packaging. Always amused me how judgemental the box collectors are over unboxed collectors. But I'll accept your a much better bigger snd more important collector than I am s you collect mib. I only wish I could be as cool as you I'm just unsure what sort of response you're looking for on a forum such as this. It's a bit weird to think people would share an opinion that opening 25+ year old toys would be something most people do. Considering you attend boot sales, Id have thought you'd have plenty of loose figures to avoid the need to waste money/time on opening a packaged one. If your opinion is that toys should be played with you then must also struggle hard with coin and stamp collectors. |
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 11, 2017 15:50:11 GMT -5
So I don't collect seriously? As that's what your opening statement eludes to. I would consider browsing eBay and other sites daily, weekly attending car boots (flea market equivalent in the uk), other markets and retro stores / toy fares ONLY looking for hasbros to be a 'serious collector' I just prefer my 'serious collection' to be unboxed so I can hold and view from all angles. Perfect #2 has the back of his singlet painted which is ment to be seen, not just the front or side through packaging. Always amused me how judgemental the box collectors are over unboxed collectors. But I'll accept your a much better bigger snd more important collector than I am s you collect mib. I only wish I could be as cool as you I'm just unsure what sort of response you're looking for on a forum such as this. It's a bit weird to think people would share an opinion that opening 25+ year old toys would be something most people do. Considering you attend boot sales, Id have thought you'd have plenty of loose figures to avoid the need to waste money/time on opening a packaged one. If your opinion is that toys should be played with you then must also struggle hard with coin and stamp collectors. In my first post in this thread I said that I personally like them un boxed but if others want a carded collection that's up to them Then all the mint on card collectors get on their high horses and look down on those who open mind on card figures. They act all superior snd that's what gets my nose up A perfect example was the user above who said about "serious collectors appreciate the full package" trying to put me and other opened figure collectors down and claim we are not serious collectors and therefore less than them |
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Post by vintagetoycoop on Feb 11, 2017 15:52:27 GMT -5
For those of us that collect seriously it's about preserving the figures and collecting things of value, among other things. For me personally I love having so many of them MOC as it's also a reminder of seeing them in the toy stores as a kid and also seeing ones that were never released in stores in Australia. If you want to open the ones you buy that's your decision. The ones that I own and that many other people own are cared for, appreciated and certainly not "rotting". I don't think people who collect vintage cars, for example, are seen to be letting their collections "rot" because they look after them and don't go driving them off road and running them into the ground. So I don't collect seriously? As that's what your opening statement eludes to. I would consider browsing eBay and other sites daily, weekly attending car boots (flea market equivalent in the uk), other markets and retro stores / toy fares ONLY looking for hasbros to be a 'serious collector' I just prefer my 'serious collection' to be unboxed so I can hold and view from all angles. Perfect #2 has the back of his singlet painted which is ment to be seen, not just the front or side through packaging. Always amused me how judgemental the box collectors are over unboxed collectors. But I'll accept your a much better bigger snd more important collector than I am s you collect mib. I only wish I could be as cool as you You and I are both talking about MOC collectors. You say you don't understand them and I am a serious MOC collector so I am referring to that. |
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Post by figurehumble on Feb 11, 2017 16:01:44 GMT -5
I always try to collect one of each MOC + Loose because I love each type of collection. The toughest part is having the MOC collector in me being so damn judgemental of the lowly loose collector in me ... Honestly don't think MOC collectors are judgemental of loose collectors and often people collect and appreciate both. Plenty of the guys on the forum with some incredibly rare items and massive MOC collections seem to be really nice humble people. The judgement is not so much about whether someone has a loose collection or a MOC one or both, it's more that the idea of ripping open a no name Slaughter just because their apparent intended purpose is to be played with seems a bit dumb. On a serious note, the Prospector in Toy Story 2 did turn out to be the bad guy and he was the only MOC/boxed figure in that set, so now I'm wondering whether keeping some of my MOC figures all cooped up like that might eventually cause them to turn on the loose ones - I really don't want to risk that |
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