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Post by Decky on Feb 24, 2017 12:11:38 GMT -5
Bring back build and brawl!
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Post by Chicago on Feb 25, 2017 10:22:46 GMT -5
If it doesn't happen in the next five years, it may never happen at all. Is the secret here time+stylized unique product= throwback figure? Do they have to have an overriding style that is immediately recognizable or will Mattel make a Jakks Ruthless Aggression retro series in 2030? Because those, despite bad body sculpting, were supposed to be "realistic". Maybe by this logic BCAs do stand a chance. Maybe.... It's interesting to think about, is it not? I mean, we're all familiar with the love for LJNs and Hasbros around here, but it doesn't really set in that these were beloved by so many until the figure companies take notice. It's really up to them to decide whether or not a retro line is commercially viable. Realistically, there would have to be someone within Mattel's ranks to campaign for it, and even then there's a good chance that their superiors will look at them as if they have three heads. Up until a few years ago I would've said you're crazy to think RA figures ever stand a chance at being considered "retro" or worthy of nostalgic feelings, but I believe it's coming for them. I've felt it for my own collection as I think back to the fun I had trying to keep up with all the new sets in the mid-2000's. More so than the 1996 to 2002 years of Jakks figures (a.k.a. the BCA/TTL/R3 years), I think the Classic Superstars line stands the greatest chance of appealing to the modern wrestling figure collector. Now, having said that, I don't know if that necessarily means the style itself played a major contributing role, but I guess we'll have to see what becomes of all the imitation lines.
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Post by jsmells on Feb 25, 2017 10:28:17 GMT -5
I honestly find "realistic" figures more boring than exaggerated ones. I like them, but not nearly as much. So things like this are very welcome for me. Always have been. There's a charm and feeling of fun they bring.
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StylesClash
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Post by StylesClash on Feb 25, 2017 10:51:38 GMT -5
Possibly the worst idea ever.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 25, 2017 11:06:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind them bringing back the final count series lol I liked them growing up minus the crazy hair they gave to some of them lol Gosh those things were disgusting.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 25, 2017 11:09:11 GMT -5
I got Kane at Christmas 1999 and I thought it was the greatest present ever because I was able to remove his mask.
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Post by poindizzle on Feb 25, 2017 11:15:47 GMT -5
Is the secret here time+stylized unique product= throwback figure? Do they have to have an overriding style that is immediately recognizable or will Mattel make a Jakks Ruthless Aggression retro series in 2030? Because those, despite bad body sculpting, were supposed to be "realistic". Maybe by this logic BCAs do stand a chance. Maybe.... It's interesting to think about, is it not? I mean, we're all familiar with the love for LJNs and Hasbros around here, but it doesn't really set in that these were beloved by so many until the figure companies take notice. It's really up to them to decide whether or not a retro line is commercially viable. Realistically, there would have to be someone within Mattel's ranks to campaign for it, and even then there's a good chance that their superiors will look at them as if they have three heads. Up until a few years ago I would've said you're crazy to think RA figures ever stand a chance at being considered "retro" or worthy of nostalgic feelings, but I believe it's coming for them. I've felt it for my own collection as I think back to the fun I had trying to keep up with all the new sets in the mid-2000's. More so than the 1996 to 2002 years of Jakks figures (a.k.a. the BCA/TTL/R3 years), I think the Classic Superstars line stands the greatest chance of appealing to the modern wrestling figure collector. Now, having said that, I don't know if that necessarily means the style itself played a major contributing role, but I guess we'll have to see what becomes of all the imitation lines. Nostalgia is interesting. If Mattel made RA style figures I'm sure this board would say they were a total waste and a step backwards. But go really backwards to like 3 P.O.A. and an action feature with a cartoon body and people love it. The line is very thin.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 25, 2017 11:25:05 GMT -5
It's interesting to think about, is it not? I mean, we're all familiar with the love for LJNs and Hasbros around here, but it doesn't really set in that these were beloved by so many until the figure companies take notice. It's really up to them to decide whether or not a retro line is commercially viable. Realistically, there would have to be someone within Mattel's ranks to campaign for it, and even then there's a good chance that their superiors will look at them as if they have three heads. Up until a few years ago I would've said you're crazy to think RA figures ever stand a chance at being considered "retro" or worthy of nostalgic feelings, but I believe it's coming for them. I've felt it for my own collection as I think back to the fun I had trying to keep up with all the new sets in the mid-2000's. More so than the 1996 to 2002 years of Jakks figures (a.k.a. the BCA/TTL/R3 years), I think the Classic Superstars line stands the greatest chance of appealing to the modern wrestling figure collector. Now, having said that, I don't know if that necessarily means the style itself played a major contributing role, but I guess we'll have to see what becomes of all the imitation lines. Nostalgia is interesting. If Mattel made RA style figures I'm sure this board would say they were a total waste and a step backwards. But go really backwards to like 3 P.O.A. and an action feature with a cartoon body and people love it. The line is very thin. That's how I feel. Hasbro's were before my time and always thought they were crap figures that had awful articulation. In all honesty a kid would rather buy an RA or TTL style figure over a hasbro that can't even be played with.
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Post by jsmells on Feb 25, 2017 11:28:10 GMT -5
We just got creative with the Hasbros. I'd find all sorts of ways to make them pull of the moves I wanted. When JAKKS first hit I HATED how ugly they were. Yeah, the arms and legs moved, but they were so ugly I didn't WANT them, period. They didn't look like the wrestlers, so yeah the limbs moved but I could do that with any toy that had limbs, they didn't resemble the wrestlers so what was the point?! I quit buying wrestling toys because of Jakks until they made more interesting figures like the Sweat guys.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 25, 2017 11:37:52 GMT -5
We just got creative with the Hasbros. I'd find all sorts of ways to make them pull of the moves I wanted. When JAKKS first hit I HATED how ugly they were. Yeah, the arms and legs moved, but they were so ugly I didn't WANT them, period. They didn't look like the wrestlers, so yeah the limbs moved but I could do that with any toy that had limbs, they didn't resemble the wrestlers so what was the point?! I quit buying wrestling toys because of Jakks until they made more interesting figures like the Sweat guys. I understand where your coming from because I loved BCA's but despised TTL's. They had more articulation but their awful headscans and skinny bodies made them boring and uninteresting figures to collect. All I'm saying is that a modern kid may not want a figure wave that gives them limited articulation. The new hasbros will appeal to adult collectors who played with them as kids but I can't imagine a kid from today wanting them when they have the option of buying basics and Elites that are more realistic.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Feb 25, 2017 14:05:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind them bringing back the final count series lol I liked them growing up minus the crazy hair they gave to some of them lol Weren't Final Count figures essentially prototype Deluxe Aggression figures?
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Post by jsmells on Feb 25, 2017 14:17:42 GMT -5
We just got creative with the Hasbros. I'd find all sorts of ways to make them pull of the moves I wanted. When JAKKS first hit I HATED how ugly they were. Yeah, the arms and legs moved, but they were so ugly I didn't WANT them, period. They didn't look like the wrestlers, so yeah the limbs moved but I could do that with any toy that had limbs, they didn't resemble the wrestlers so what was the point?! I quit buying wrestling toys because of Jakks until they made more interesting figures like the Sweat guys. I understand where your coming from because I loved BCA's but despised TTL's. They had more articulation but their awful headscans and skinny bodies made them boring and uninteresting figures to collect. All I'm saying is that a modern kid may not want a figure wave that gives them limited articulation. The new hasbros will appeal to adult collectors who played with them as kids but I can't imagine a kid from today wanting them when they have the option of buying basics and Elites that are more realistic. Oh yeah the retro Hasbro figures are totally for adults. I mean kids really accept what they're given, and kids now have been given these articulated figures so that's what they'll always want. I think it's more than just nostalgia though. I love the artistic merritt of all sorts of things from before my time that I maybe didn't care for as a kid. The craftsmanship that went into the Hasbro's will always outshine the negatives of the lack of articulation to me. Same with certain, now creative Jakks lines like the sweat ones.
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