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Post by Hulkster2001 on Apr 9, 2017 21:13:45 GMT -5
I never understood why everyone seems to treasure this game above everything else. Why is it? What makes this game so great that people will blindly dub it the best wrestling game ever made?! Please tell me. PS, Don't murder me
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Post by mcfclee on Apr 9, 2017 22:43:56 GMT -5
Keep in mind what was out at the time to compare and the following make it so beloved in my opinion. Look. It's bright, entrance and attire accurate and looks like the attitude era. Playability. It's easy to hit moves, simple to pick up and makes sense. Roster. Simply the best roster for a game I can recall. A few nice surprises help too. Andre I'm looking at you. Smackdown mall. Unlockables that don't cost 4.99 make me happy. current games. Career. This thing was long and varied and kept you playing for ages. Lastly it's nostalgia. It was the best game during the best period of wrestling that had video game access largely available. During the hulkamania era consoles were more sparse and the games tended to be poor. During the current era not enough casual fans are playing. This was the sweet spot in between when wrestling was cool, gaming hot and this satisfied both sides.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Apr 13, 2017 18:05:39 GMT -5
SmackDown Here Comes The Pain will always be my favourite.
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Post by mrhoss on Apr 13, 2017 20:47:02 GMT -5
I always thought the wrestlers felt "floaty" in the games after No Mercy. Floatiness is usually used to describe car physics in videogames, but I think it applies here too.
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Post by Dylan ❤️s Wrestling on May 4, 2017 15:22:25 GMT -5
A lot of people had N64 and loved WWF over WCW around the time it came out, so WCW/nWo Revenge got kicked to the side and No Mercy was then the last best wrestling game for N64.
The other thing was that you could update the roster endlessly. Just keep customizing everything about each character and each one had four attires on top of it.
It wasn't my thing but that's why.
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Post by specterkev on May 7, 2017 0:56:18 GMT -5
I've always found it overrated myself.. i hated the half entrances. always enjoyed WM 2000 more
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Post by Manning Of Steel on May 8, 2017 19:52:07 GMT -5
No Mercy is the GOAT, still to this day. It was so simple, yet so well made. Obviously, it had certain technical limitations(half entrances, lagging gameplay during 4 man matches, the memory erasing off the cartridge etc), but those are mostly things to do with the game maxing out the N64 at the ends of its run. What No Mercy had that no other game still to this day has yet to capture, was a simple, yet realistic and highly effective grappling engine.
My one and only complaint about the game is that you couldn't edit moves for guys currently in the game. I never understood why that was the only thing they wouldn't let you edit. It drove me crazy that I had to make a separate CAW of Kurt Angle to give him a proper Ankle Lock for his finisher.
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Post by dylan on May 9, 2017 0:14:44 GMT -5
No Mercy isn't the greatest wrestling game ever, it's not event the greatest AKI game. That's VPW2.
Even before playing VPW I always felt No Mercy was the weaker entry in the series compared to Revenge and WM2000. The AI was just cheap on higher difficulty levels but was too easy any other time. Sure mods make it more fun and fix a lot of broken aspects of the game, but if I want to play a vanilla AKI game I'll play WM2000 or VPW2.
Otherwise greatest wrestling game is Fire Pro Returns.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 9, 2017 1:51:59 GMT -5
Grappling. Its not just No Mercy though, that was just the most up to date and had the most to do. Any of the AKI/THQ games like WCW/NWO World Tour, Revenge, VPW, VPW2, WM2000.
I tried to pkay 2k17 and had no clue what I was doing. Pick up one of these and its intuitive if youve played N64.
Press A for light grapple. Hold A for strong grapple. B to kick and punch. L to pin.
Shouldnt have to read a manual to know what button does what.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 6:41:10 GMT -5
No Mercy: -Easy to play and has intuitive controls. -For its time looked great, had customisable attires for everyone. -Has a roster matched only by WCW Revenge. -Fun single player content, and unlockable features. Ever tried the 2K/THQ single player modes? Awful. -Nostalgia.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on May 9, 2017 10:07:51 GMT -5
Grappling. Its not just No Mercy though, that was just the most up to date and had the most to do. Any of the AKI/THQ games like WCW/NWO World Tour, Revenge, VPW, VPW2, WM2000. I tried to pkay 2k17 and had no clue what I was doing. Pick up one of these and its intuitive if youve played N64. Press A for light grapple. Hold A for strong grapple. B to kick and punch. L to pin. Shouldnt have to read a manual to know what button does what. But isn't that the point of a manual? To tell you how to play? Plus there's in game tutorials, so you should know what your doing.
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Post by Manning Of Steel on May 9, 2017 11:03:36 GMT -5
Grappling. Its not just No Mercy though, that was just the most up to date and had the most to do. Any of the AKI/THQ games like WCW/NWO World Tour, Revenge, VPW, VPW2, WM2000. I tried to pkay 2k17 and had no clue what I was doing. Pick up one of these and its intuitive if youve played N64. Press A for light grapple. Hold A for strong grapple. B to kick and punch. L to pin. Shouldnt have to read a manual to know what button does what. But isn't that the point of a manual? To tell you how to play? Plus there's in game tutorials, so you should know what your doing. Even if you do know how to operate the modern WWE games, they still just don't have the simplicity that the AKI engine had.
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Post by thebigzakbowski on Jun 3, 2017 14:13:33 GMT -5
But isn't that the point of a manual? To tell you how to play? Plus there's in game tutorials, so you should know what your doing. Even if you do know how to operate the modern WWE games, they still just don't have the simplicity that the AKI engine had. at my buddy's house and he had the new wwe game...I tried it I am too old to get it, too complicated. NO mercy was great
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 3, 2017 18:10:53 GMT -5
Pretend like no game that came after No Mercy ever existed. Now go play every wrestling game prior to WCW vs nWo World Tour. Then play the AKI N64 titles. Only then will you know.
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Post by killerkapowski on Jun 16, 2017 13:00:09 GMT -5
It captured the pure essence of the Attitude Era and merged it with the AKI engine. But to me in terms of pure wrestling, variety, and charm in an N64 AKI game, I'd give that nod to Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 and WCW/NWO Revenge. I still play and enjoy those two games in their original un-modded format. No Mercy is good, but I felt like the roster had too many 'brawler' type characters and the A.I. wasn't all that consistent. Where as VPW2 and Revenge had variety in their rosters such as the cruiserweights, luchadors, and MMA fighters. The A.I. in both those games aren't perfect, but they felt just right for their respective titles. I still mark out whenever a No Sell Suplex to Clothesline spot occurs in VPW2. Oh, and VADER!!!
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Post by REAL REVY on Jun 30, 2017 16:04:17 GMT -5
I dont get why everyone loved No Mercy but hated WCW Backstage Assault when there both practicaly the same game
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 2, 2017 19:13:26 GMT -5
Yeah a lot of it is in comparison to what had come before it, it was everything anyone could hope for a wrestling game to be on the N64. Sure if you've come into it I would say post-Here Comes The Pain you might not see the appeal in it. Everyone at different points are going to say X game is the best wrestling game depending on what they played up to that point.
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Post by Mark Martin on Jul 2, 2017 20:50:26 GMT -5
It's simply the best, better than all the rest.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jul 3, 2017 6:53:26 GMT -5
I dont get why everyone loved No Mercy but hated WCW Backstage Assault when there both practicaly the same game Backstage assault didn't have arena's. If it did it would've been one of the best WCW games.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 15, 2017 20:50:58 GMT -5
I didn't get the hype for it when the game was new and I don't get it now. I do love all the PC mods that are out for it now though. The Japanese version of the n64 games were far better than what we got in the west. I don't know why THQ skimped out on so many of the features in our versions.
IMO the GameCube WWE games were among the best. They were a throwback to the n64 style games.
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