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Post by Kanenite on Apr 25, 2017 1:16:08 GMT -5
I thought it was a pretty weak RAW. Was excited to see Braun dismantle Kalisto but the match wasn't really great. The beatdown was alright but nothing too crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 1:23:01 GMT -5
jesus every week i say raw is bad and i have ppl telling me nah its great lol now im on the other side? hmm. Better with no Reigns
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Post by IRS on Apr 25, 2017 2:00:30 GMT -5
Discussing RAW is kinda the point of the weekly RAW thread...
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Apr 25, 2017 2:43:14 GMT -5
Is this just another way to blatantly plug your Youtube videos?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 3:26:24 GMT -5
Is this just another way to blatantly plug your Youtube videos? i dont have a youtube channel...
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Apr 25, 2017 4:10:46 GMT -5
I must say, like your RAW preview video, this could have easily gone on the RAW thread
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Post by marino13 on Apr 25, 2017 6:31:41 GMT -5
I thought it was a pretty good RAW. That being said, the thing with Bray was weird. And I HATE how they insist on making Enzo look like a chump.
RAW Topics go in... the RAW thread. Crazy how life works sometimes, isn't it?
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Post by bigshab421 on Apr 25, 2017 6:58:09 GMT -5
-Enzo and Cass are the most over team they have had in decades and they refuse to use them correctly. Enzo looks like a chump and Cass always seems to be the "bumbling loser" big friend. I know its the formula they have for them, but for god sake this team should have had a NXT Title run and WWE Tag title run by now.
-Cannot even believe I am about to type this.....Braun Strowman is my favorite part of RAW anymore. They need to let this guy run wild on everyone and just cause total chaos. I just have a gut feeling, Roman is coming back to Superman Punch him back to being the dumb monster who can't win PPV matches.
-I love Kurt and I know he's probably still got nerves about being back, but he needs to loosen up a bit and have fun. He seems so stiff and forced right now.
-I'm at a loss for words with what they are doing with Bray Wyatt. Idk how or why they didn't have him retain at Mania, reform the Wyatt family and then build AJ up as the ultimate badass babyface that dethrones him.
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Post by Manning Of Steel on Apr 25, 2017 8:48:14 GMT -5
Matt vs. Sheamus was a really good match. The rest of the show was forgettable.
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Post by blissfan4life on Apr 25, 2017 11:18:53 GMT -5
That Alicia vs. Dana match though, Yeah I love Dana but she needs to go back to the performance center, she's lucky Alicia didn't break her neck on that Michnioku driver.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 25, 2017 11:21:36 GMT -5
I honestly don't get this Bailey bandwagon - last night was yet again another clear indication of how poor this girl is with cutting a promo. Maybe it's the candy cane babyface lines, but she sounds awkward and her timing is off. Alexa has loads of room for improvement too, but still managed to work the crowd and play the heel. Bailey is a disaster on the mic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 11:28:28 GMT -5
I honestly don't get this Bailey bandwagon - last night was yet again another clear indication of how poor this girl is with cutting a promo. Maybe it's the candy cane babyface lines, but she sounds awkward and her timing is off. Alexa has loads of room for improvement too, but still managed to work the crowd and play the heel. Bailey is a disaster on the mic. Well the fact that she's been around for a few years and you don't even properly spell her name shows you don't care.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 25, 2017 11:35:19 GMT -5
I honestly don't get this Bailey bandwagon - last night was yet again another clear indication of how poor this girl is with cutting a promo. Maybe it's the candy cane babyface lines, but she sounds awkward and her timing is off. Alexa has loads of room for improvement too, but still managed to work the crowd and play the heel. Bailey is a disaster on the mic. Well the fact that she's been around for a few years and you don't even properly spell her name shows you don't care. No I don't care about her because she's not impressive. I know there's a long thread somewhere dedicated to her bubble butt. Seriously? Is that what defines her to you guys? It's actually a travesty that her mic work hasn't improved since she's been around a few years. She was NXT Women's champion on multiple occasions and she couldn't learn how to cut a promo? Sorry if this sounds harsh but not everyone loves her man, she's mediocre. She's no diferrent than Kalisto - great workers who suck at their cliched squeaky-clean babyface underdog gimmick.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Apr 25, 2017 11:37:00 GMT -5
Bandalero you dont have to understand. Its wrestling and its subjective. Promos arent the only factor. I cant wrap my head around why people like fat baby Greg Valentine so much but they do. Bayley is a wholesome white meat babyface that moves merch.....and the ass is sooo fat. You just wanna....hug it....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 11:41:55 GMT -5
Well the fact that she's been around for a few years and you don't even properly spell her name shows you don't care. No I don't care about her because she's not impressive. I know there's a long thread somewhere dedicated to her bubble butt. Seriously? Is that what defines her to you guys? It's actually a travesty that her mic work hasn't improved since she's been around a few years. She was NXT Women's champion on multiple occasions and she couldn't learn how to cut a promo? Sorry if this sounds harsh but not everyone loves her man, she's mediocre. She's no diferrent than Kalisto - great workers who suck at their cliched squeaky-clean babyface underdog gimmick. That's not what defines her to me. Personally I don't see the need that most this board has with sexualizing every woman in wrestling. What defines Bayley to me is that she is the perfect baby face. Someone that children and adults can get behind and want to see succeed. Yea she may not be a great promo. Tons of great wrestlers haven't been. Daniel Bryan was one of the biggest baby faces in history. His mic work was average as sh**. Bayleys work in NXT proved she is very talented. And while her mic work isn't great, she still has a majority of the crowds support. She's extremely over. And you don't have to be a fan. Not everyone needs to like everyone. But at least spell her name right. It's shown spelled properly weekly. Same with people miss spelling Balor. I never understood that.
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 25, 2017 11:48:01 GMT -5
look let's be clear, I love fat asses and I do appreciate Bayley's (see what i did there Old Ginger?). But she takes me out of my suspension of disbelief with her awkward mic-work. I know she's being fed lines, but her come-backs/quips are head-smacking bad. I honestly don't think she would have a clue what to do if the audience decided to chant for other things. She doesn't have the skill to get them back.
And this is not all on Bayley - Alexa has work to do too, she gets nervous and spits out her lines, but you can see improvement, Alexa has potential to be a future HOF. Bayley looks like she's coasting. I know they are building to the eventual split by having Sasha come out every week to save her on the mic, but she ends up looking like an amateur. AJ Lee shares a similar background story about being a little girl with dreams of being a WWE Superstar and she started out rough in the ring and in her promos - look where she ended when she left.
BTW, WWE Creative blew the whole "super clean babyface" gimmick away with Bayley when they had her keep the title even though she didn't win it cleanly the first time. Her clean babyface character should have relinquished the belt. Now she looks like a naive doe-eyed girl who isn't supposed to see Sasha's turn. It's just bad character development.
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 25, 2017 11:51:01 GMT -5
Bayley is god awful on the mic. With how long she's been around there's no reason as to why she should be as bad as she is.
And sure she had some great matches with Sasha in NXT, but she hasn't had one above average match since coming up to Raw. I'd put Bliss above her currently as her mic skills are far better.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 25, 2017 11:59:05 GMT -5
Bayley should absolutely not be going back-and-fourth with Alexa on the mic. Alexa got all of the reactions. The crowd was booing and cheering Alexa in the same segment. Sasha and Bayley have been so mishandled from a booking standpoint that they're both lukewarm babyface acts. Like how does that happen? I mean Charlotte is, largely, how it happened, but it's still crazy to watch. I think we've established that it's going to be Alexa's division the same way it was Charlotte's before her. I expect Alexa to win the title and then we get the Sasha heel turn on Bayley. Best for all involved, I think.
Ambrose's jacket to Jericho was hilarious. Haha I don't even care, I kept laughing at it.
I enjoyed seeing Rollins and Finn together again and Finn getting in there with the Good Brothers. I hope they keep flirting with that idea, and then do it. Glad to see Rollins do the V-Trigger, and I thought it was great he was deliberate about not doing the pedigree.
Nice moment for Bray. Felt like a midcard main event and then you realize it was to make Bray look important and I was good with that. I thought it was interesting they had him hit Miz at the end though because that's really a babyface move. So maybe they're content with Bray being this space between. Surely he beats Orton...
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Apr 25, 2017 12:07:25 GMT -5
Well ill say this. Children dont overanalyze the show and they all seemed to have a good time. There were we want Roman chants. Sometimes you guys look too hard into or expect too much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 12:12:14 GMT -5
Bayley is god awful on the mic. With how long she's been around there's no reason as to why she should be as bad as she is. And sure she had some great matches with Sasha in NXT, but she hasn't had one above average match since coming up to Raw. I'd put Bliss above her currently as her mic skills are far better. She's no worse than the Bellas who have been around twice as long.
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