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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 12, 2017 10:48:00 GMT -5
forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/8092639Yeah its banned in classifies but never understood why. Its not like the Series 1 figure we're not allowed to speak about. I don't think the set was stolen and redistributed illegally. It appears to be a case where Target didn't want them so Mattel found a chain overseas to sell them. From that post by Chicago it appears it shouldn't have been made available to Oz stores in the first place? That's fair enough, but why cant Mattel/Bill just simply explain it properly other wise it just looks stupid? I'll never understand the cloaks and daggers and secrecy over ******* toys! But by never supposed to make it to store shelves is because Target was supposed to get it and never ordered them. I am pretty sure Oz didn't obtain these figures illegally. It seems pretty obvious that when Target didn't place the order, Mattel needed to unload the stock they produced and it had to be in an area that didn't violate their exclusivity deal with Target and the HOF line.
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Post by ClassicFan2 on May 12, 2017 11:25:41 GMT -5
mean gene looks awesome!
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Post by The American Daydream on May 12, 2017 12:15:59 GMT -5
Wow! At least they're somewhere. I'd buy them all and then throw them all away except x-pac and Mean Gene of course. I'm dying to see these You just throw away figures? The ? I do all the time but its just the basic torso and legs. I keep all the other parts in a bin with my elite parts for customs and fixups.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 12:41:20 GMT -5
The worst part sbout b.a.f is that it really kicks flashback collectors right in the nuts. Paul bearer... cost me a ton of money, Gene will as well... B.a.f would be so much cooler if it were with 4 figures i wanted, all elite flashbacks from the golden era Marvel legends usually do the b.a.f right, you buy the x men and build a juggernaut, makes sense, your already buying the x men, now you have to buy the 2 or 3 figures you werent planning on getting to build the juggernaut whos a part of the x men universe This has always been my argument. Build Paul Bearer then give us Taker, Mankind, Vader, and Kane. Build Gene then give us Piper, Savage, Hillbilly Jim, and Jake. BAF is the perfect series to build managers. Bobby Heenan: Hercules, Brawler, Rude, Haku. Jimmy Hart: HTM, Hart Foundation, Canadian Earthquake. Classy Freddie Blassie: Sheik, Volkoff, Bundy, Steele. etc. Exactly because if you want to buy an 80s mean gene then chances are you will also want to buy 80s wrestlers and vice versa. Doesnt make sense to have a baf from the 80s in a set of 2016 wrestlers.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 12, 2017 13:09:09 GMT -5
This has always been my argument. Build Paul Bearer then give us Taker, Mankind, Vader, and Kane. Build Gene then give us Piper, Savage, Hillbilly Jim, and Jake. BAF is the perfect series to build managers. Bobby Heenan: Hercules, Brawler, Rude, Haku. Jimmy Hart: HTM, Hart Foundation, Canadian Earthquake. Classy Freddie Blassie: Sheik, Volkoff, Bundy, Steele. etc. Exactly because if you want to buy an 80s mean gene then chances are you will also want to buy 80s wrestlers and vice versa. Doesnt make sense to have a baf from the 80s in a set of 2016 wrestlers. Unfortunately the idea is that flashbacks dont sell as well as modern figures. They make BAFs flashbacks or mangagers so they dont take up space in the normal line. But then dont rot due to kids not wanting guys they havent seen or heard of. This way adults can get old characters by paying a bit more, which most can afford compared to a kid who just wants a Cesaro or Seth figure. People would still complain if they "had to buy another Undertaker or Kane basic just to build Paul Bearer." Sure theres ways they could make it more interesting, but would it make or save them money?
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 12, 2017 13:22:29 GMT -5
Exactly because if you want to buy an 80s mean gene then chances are you will also want to buy 80s wrestlers and vice versa. Doesnt make sense to have a baf from the 80s in a set of 2016 wrestlers. Unfortunately the idea is that flashbacks dont sell as well as modern figures. They make BAFs flashbacks or mangagers so they dont take up space in the normal line. But then dont rot due to kids not wanting guys they havent seen or heard of. This way adults can get old characters by paying a bit more, which most can afford compared to a kid who just wants a Cesaro or Seth figure. People would still complain if they "had to buy another Undertaker or Kane basic just to build Paul Bearer." Sure theres ways they could make it more interesting, but would it make or save them money? BAF Bearer, Jericho and Taker were the hardest to find. I always saw Rusev and Neville everywhere. Most, if not all, of the BOPPV series were current roster guys and a majority of them rotted on TRU shelves. The series should have a theme. The people in the series should relate to the person you are building.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 13:33:37 GMT -5
Found and immediately listed on eBay lol
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Post by Rude Awakening on May 12, 2017 13:54:13 GMT -5
No one has pointed out the tnf packaging. It could be the next wave.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on May 12, 2017 13:59:09 GMT -5
No one has pointed out the tnf packaging. It could be the next wave. Nope. This was supposed to come out several months ago. Walmart was supposed to get it but they never ordered it. The TNF branding is probably why it was shipped overseas since Walmart has exclusive rights to the TNF line.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 12, 2017 14:07:40 GMT -5
Cesaro or Karl Anderson? lol. Since we got Heenan and Mouth, I imagine that we'll get Gene somehow.
People will probably crap over saying exclusive again, but even the Hall of Fame line as a single figure carded like Amazon Mankind or the mailaways.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 14:39:04 GMT -5
Love that these are finally out, ing hate that its another series in ing australia ing bullcrap mother ing wank **** crap mattel distribution
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 14:48:33 GMT -5
You just throw away figures? The ? Yes. Dude, just save up what you don't need and put them into a toy bin for poor kids or something around Christmas. I'm sure there are lots of people that would love what you just toss away.
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Post by Chicago on May 12, 2017 15:29:53 GMT -5
forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/8092639Yeah its banned in classifies but never understood why. Its not like the Series 1 figure we're not allowed to speak about. I don't think the set was stolen and redistributed illegally. It appears to be a case where Target didn't want them so Mattel found a chain overseas to sell them. From that post by Chicago it appears it shouldn't have been made available to Oz stores in the first place? That's fair enough, but why cant Mattel/Bill just simply explain it properly other wise it just looks stupid? I'll never understand the cloaks and daggers and secrecy over ******* toys! I would like to know just as much as anyone. Believe me, I take no pleasure in stifling conversation or preventing people from dealing in the open.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 15:31:10 GMT -5
Exactly because if you want to buy an 80s mean gene then chances are you will also want to buy 80s wrestlers and vice versa. Doesnt make sense to have a baf from the 80s in a set of 2016 wrestlers. Unfortunately the idea is that flashbacks dont sell as well as modern figures. They make BAFs flashbacks or mangagers so they dont take up space in the normal line. But then dont rot due to kids not wanting guys they havent seen or heard of. This way adults can get old characters by paying a bit more, which most can afford compared to a kid who just wants a Cesaro or Seth figure. People would still complain if they "had to buy another Undertaker or Kane basic just to build Paul Bearer." Sure theres ways they could make it more interesting, but would it make or save them money? I think it would help sales but what do i know, i just look at it like this, marvel legends put out that x men wave and had an x men character as a b.a.f , would it.be more or less successful if the b.a.f was a spiderman character? I dont know, but i imagine x men only fans wouldnt be as enticed to buy every figure, and spiderman fans wouldnt buy a whole set for 1 figurw they wanted. Which is what we get with paul bearer and mean gene. Flashback collectors have to pay the price of four figures just to get one, and modern only collectors wont hsve the desire to complete the set. I would be more likely to want to complete a flashback b.a.f if the figures you had to buy were all flashbacks, they dont have to have been managed by the guy imo but at least from the same era. I just dont like having to buy modern guys to collect a flashback. Just my 2 cents
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Post by Row on May 12, 2017 15:36:48 GMT -5
Freaking Australia
The blackhole of unreleased figures
I really wanted that X-Pac, hopefully they squeeze him in a future Basic lineup.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on May 12, 2017 15:44:11 GMT -5
No loose pics? We want mean gene brother!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 12, 2017 15:56:58 GMT -5
Unfortunately the idea is that flashbacks dont sell as well as modern figures. They make BAFs flashbacks or mangagers so they dont take up space in the normal line. But then dont rot due to kids not wanting guys they havent seen or heard of. This way adults can get old characters by paying a bit more, which most can afford compared to a kid who just wants a Cesaro or Seth figure. People would still complain if they "had to buy another Undertaker or Kane basic just to build Paul Bearer." Sure theres ways they could make it more interesting, but would it make or save them money? I think it would help sales but what do i know, i just look at it like this, marvel legends put out that x men wave and had an x men character as a b.a.f , would it.be more or less successful if the b.a.f was a spiderman character? I dont know, but i imagine x men only fans wouldnt be as enticed to buy every figure, and spiderman fans wouldnt buy a whole set for 1 figurw they wanted. Which is what we get with paul bearer and mean gene. Flashback collectors have to pay the price of four figures just to get one, and modern only collectors wont hsve the desire to complete the set. I would be more likely to want to complete a flashback b.a.f if the figures you had to buy were all flashbacks, they dont have to have been managed by the guy imo but at least from the same era. I just dont like having to buy modern guys to collect a flashback. Just my 2 cents I feel you, but its the same problem with Comic figures excpet that comic character dont get injured or fired and taken off of tv for months/forever. Think about CM Punk. Main Event guy, never had a problem moving figures/merchandise, then they put 3 elites of him out in his last year of the company, 2 being BAF sets. Granted they werent the best figures of him, but I highly doubt they wouldve warmed as hard had he not left. Same with Bryan figures, Mizdow, Del Rio, etc. They invested in several new Del Rio figures for him to just quit less than a year later...Its just the curse of wrestling figures. With Marvel/DC plenty of people who wont buy the full wave because attires arent the ones they want, they do or dont want MCU/DCEU figures, or they only want one or two figures total because of finances or preference. I collect very few comic figures and mostly focus on MCU ones so I dislike when I had to buy Nuke, Red Guardian, and Nick Fury to build Giant Man and the whole Hulkbuster wave minus the Iron Man and War Machine. The International sets did it better with the MCU Avengers building Hulkbuster and Giant Man. I remember when BAF JR hit and how frustrating it was that they only put 1 Curtis Axel per case with the torso piece and then we had to look at pegs full of CM Punk and Del Rio for years. Also with Teddy and Booker they put Sheamus and Del Rio in BOTH?! Basically I agree that they could do it better, but wont because the idea is to con us into paying more than we would to get the ones we want. Like you said, you just want Gene so regardless of how its sold youll have to pay what is asked. They cant make it all flashback because the market is even more niche. They try and appease the both.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 16:05:36 GMT -5
No loose pics? We want mean gene brother! Na because he's put em on ebay
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 12, 2017 17:50:21 GMT -5
Dude, just save up what you don't need and put them into a toy bin for poor kids or something around Christmas. I'm sure there are lots of people that would love what you just toss away. There can be no such thing as saving in my house as it could be featured on Tiny House Nation. Everything in my house must earn its place. I'm not in the business of buying things to throw away so this would be a rare instance where I have to buy 4 figures I don't want in order to get one I do want. It's too much trouble to find where to donate the 3 figures I would throw away here so sorry poor kids, they would go in the trash. Hopefully this will never happen and they'll release mean gene as a solo elite figure in some line in the U.S.
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Post by Chip on May 12, 2017 18:37:10 GMT -5
so if this set was actually produced in mass quantity....why can't a company like Ringside get a few hundred cases and start selling them?
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