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Post by Matt on May 18, 2017 14:56:51 GMT -5
Finn Balor should be on the cut list.
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Post by thebigzakbowski on May 18, 2017 15:08:24 GMT -5
naomi underrated? where is becky lynch??? THIS GUY AND THIS LIST This.
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Post by marino13 on May 18, 2017 16:21:38 GMT -5
This is coming from a guy who has been black balled by every company he's ever worked for. So... no, this list is sh*t.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 18, 2017 16:32:29 GMT -5
Sounds like Russo has some past vented up aggression towards Austin Aries over their TNA time together.
All I have to say to that is.... Austin Aries is the greatest man that ever lived, and works for the WWE, while Vince Russo sits at home and complains about what he sees on the WWE.
For Vince Russo is actually the head leader of the IWC!
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Post by PJ on May 18, 2017 18:02:48 GMT -5
I agree with it for the most part although I would make a few changes. Balor would be both still. Becky would replace Naomi. Sami would replace Jinder (I feel he is a future wellness policy fail) And everyone knows how I feel about Ambrose and Enzo. But I do think with some retraining Ambrose can be saved. So I would keep him but I would dropped Enzo, Lana and Maryse for Aries, Sheamus and Cesaro. But then I would make Maryse and Lana straigh out valets/managers for the Miz and Rusev. I do wish I could find a place for Cass and Breezeango, but to keep it to 30 in ring preformers they would need to be cut.
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Post by IRS on May 18, 2017 18:15:04 GMT -5
Vince Russo is a ing stooge. Cutting New Day, Aries, Cesaro, and Bayley? Naomi underrated? Bálor as The Demon full-time? Ambrose makes it by the skin of his teeth? Yeah, okay. I'm shocked nobody is willing to pay him for his oh-so-genius ideas.
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Post by Chip on May 18, 2017 18:34:32 GMT -5
but like besides the undercard how is this any different from the main roster?
and so you take away new day who the crowd actually responds to and sheamus/cesaro who are two of the most consistently good wrestlers on the show
those are just 2 points
and now you've eliminated the entire midcard where everyone is just fighting for one belt....i hope he plans on RAW being only 2 hours, smackdown being 1 hour and one monthly PPV otherwise thats a LOT of time to fill over and over again with the same amount of talent. part of what makes the WWE interesting IS the amount of talent. the problem isn't in the number, the problem is with the way most of it is presented
nothing has any meaning or purpose....this week on RAW we had Rollins vs Bray 1 on 1 for the first time ever and nobody cared. There was no meaning behind it, no end game, it was literally just a match between two guys who are sorta near the main event. Half of the undercard is directionless and stale because the writers dont have time to come up with anything interesting for them to do
You take two guys like Tyler Breeze and Fandango....give them hilarious backstage segments that take up less than 3 minutes of TV time and you get more character development in ONE WEEK than you have the last 6 months for them. They writers are lazy, un-creative, recycling, boring, lame ducks....and the head writer/guy who makes all the final decisions only cares about one thing, making Roman Reigns the greatest wrestler in the history of the industry
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Post by TheLastDude on May 18, 2017 21:06:26 GMT -5
So he:
keeps Human Rest Hold, Naomi, Ziggler, and Jinder....and Lana, Maryse, and Nikki just cuz they're hawt...huh huh huh YEAH BEWBS!
doesn't understand the appeal of regular Finn.
and cuts Joe, AA, Sheamus, Cesaro, Becky, and New Day?
And we're supposed to wonder why he was fired multiple times by multiple different companies?
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Post by blissfan4life on May 18, 2017 21:25:40 GMT -5
About the only things I agree with the buffoon on are Naomi being underrated and Charlotte going on to be one of the best.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 18, 2017 22:14:21 GMT -5
Honestly, i dont get why anyone would give him attention, but then i shouldn't be surprised since i think he says things just to get attention. I don't take his comnents serious. He may want to take credit for a lot of the things in the Attitude Era, but 90% of the success in that era goes to Vince. We've seen what he can do when theres no filter in what he can write
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 19, 2017 1:27:41 GMT -5
Don't agree on cutting Joe, New Day, Becky and Aries - and especially not for personal dislike... but I'm all for getting rid of boring Bayley - which is what should be written on the back of that stupid jacket.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 19, 2017 4:13:35 GMT -5
Can't believe Russo hate is still a thing. I bet if someone like Austin made this list everyone would be agreeing. He does make some pretty good points I mean look at how WWE have booked The Club and Bray Wyatt etc. Atleast Russo would make sure those guys would be treated how they should be. I also agree about Sheamus. The guy have flopped so many times and can't draw a dime so what exactly is the point in him?
However his opinions on Bayley, Ambrose and New Day is idiotic and I thought him of all people would've been a fan of them,.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 19, 2017 4:26:07 GMT -5
I seldom see the logic in anything $#!tstain says and this is no different. First of all it's easy to agree with most of the list because some of the people are no-brainers, but when you get down to specifics, why he would keep or dump people, that's where he really exposes just how little skill and talent he really has. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes. It's easier when Vince McMahon prevents the blind squirrel from eating the rat poison. This list is pretty much a personification of Russo - 45% common sense, 20% dumb luck, 35% logic-free bull$#!t.
Like I said, many of the names are common sense, more still have enough of a backing to get past the radar, but the rest (particularly the rationale) expose the very loud crazy guy with the tin foil hat spinning in circles in his underwear on a rooftop. Some booking logic would help here.
I personally feel that not keeping Joe is a screaming red flag. Joe should be the next equivalent of Lesnar, and really should be the guy to finish off Lesnar's run. It's really time to start thinking about putting Lesnar to pasture. Cena is a part timer. Definitely a cut above the rest, but at this point he's not really on the roster. He's essentially the Rock in 2002, one foot out the door. He's important, but shouldn't be a focal point aside from the big ppvs.
Keep Lana because she's attractive? Cut Becky? Nope.
Keep Nikki Bella because she's attractive? Yeah, lots of other ladies are attractive as well. Nikki is the female Cena, I doubt we will see her full-time again because of the injury. That roster spot would be better for someone else. Nikki can be a part-timer for the big shows.
Sheamus and Cesaro are damaged beyond repair? Ziggler says hi.
These are quick takeaways, but from what I can tell it doesn't look like Russo put very much thought into this list.
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Post by PJ on May 19, 2017 4:36:36 GMT -5
Russo always has and always will be an idiot. And while I have nothing against Bailey or New Day... Ambrose has digressed year after year since his debut. When the Shield first debut I though he was the second best in the group after Seth, but since they split he has become a distant third. I don't find him the least bit entertaining in the ring...But at the same time I keep hoping the switch turns back on and he turns it around, because I do think he can.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on May 19, 2017 7:10:14 GMT -5
Russo always has and always will be an idiot. And while I have nothing against Bailey or New Day... Ambrose has digressed year after year since his debut. When the Shield first debut I though he was the second best in the group after Seth, but since they split he has become a distant third. I don't find him the least bit entertaining in the ring...But at the same time I keep hoping the switch turns back on and he turns it around, because I do think he can. I love Ambrose but my main issue is his character. He has gone from being a ruthless mad man to a goofy guy who is everyone's friend. He needs his 2014 persona back.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 19, 2017 7:16:55 GMT -5
Can't believe Russo hate is still a thing. I bet if someone like Austin made this list everyone would be agreeing.He does make some pretty good points I mean look at how WWE have booked The Club and Bray Wyatt etc. Atleast Russo would make sure those guys would be treated how they should be. I also agree about Sheamus. The guy have flopped so many times and can't draw a dime so what exactly is the point in him? However his opinions on Bayley, Ambrose and New Day is idiotic and I thought him of all people would've been a fan of them,. Stupid is stupid
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 7:20:33 GMT -5
Russo may be an idiot but I'm sure his ears work so he must hear Bayley uncomfortably fumble ing her promos every week.
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Post by bababooey on May 19, 2017 7:59:44 GMT -5
Whether people think Russo is an idiot or not, I am finding it funny that people are saying he just says things to get a reaction then getting all worked up about what he said. Seems like he's getting the reactions he's looking for if he's just trying to get a reaction. That alone tells me he does have a sense of what is needed in storytelling and booking.
Personally, I feel like a lot of his ideas tend to be outdated. He's still living in the attitude era. It was awesome at the time, but I feel like he sometimes misses the core of what they accomplished back then. It was great mainly because there was an effort to have everyone doing something and there was a clear through line that carved a path for creative. Like there were all these stories going on but one way or another they all led back to one focal point.
The attitude era wasn't successful because of how outrageous is was and because of all the T&A (while a teenage me did enjoy it).
I listen to Russo's reviews of shows and a lot of times I find myself agreeing with a bunch of points he makes. If I had a promotion I could maybe see some value in having Russo critique scripts and plans, then deciding whether or not to listen to him.
Also, I don't see a problem with him putting women on his roster because they're hot. Wrestling is a body business and looks do play into it. Also, it's proven that sex sells. When Maryse comes on TV I can't look away. Having said that though, there is no shortage of women on the roster that can wrestle and are gorgeous.
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Post by finnbalor1 on May 19, 2017 8:17:34 GMT -5
He doesn't even mention Sasha I know she not in the main event anymore but he's keeping Lana and Naomi over her I dont get that logic. I lot rather watch Sasha, Bayley and Becky instead of Lana, Maryse, Nikki and Naomi. All the money New Day made WWE it looks like they will have a home for a while.
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Post by jakksking1 on May 19, 2017 8:31:05 GMT -5
I love that he loves Enzo and Cass.
After they debuted he went on a rant about how no one knows what they are talking about when they do the SAWFT chant. He didn't understand it either, until someone slowly explained it to him that it is "soft".
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