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Post by kev85hasbro on Jun 5, 2017 14:36:46 GMT -5
I see WWF Hasbro graded figures up for grabs at £400. even more.
So you could get a C10 condition figure for £75, pay £40 to get the piece grade by UKScammers, box it all up and sell for £300 - £400.
I really don't understand it all. Whats the appeal?
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Post by master_fuji on Jun 5, 2017 15:21:09 GMT -5
I see WWF Hasbro graded figures up for grabs at £400. even more. So you could get a C10 condition figure for £75, pay £40 to get the piece grade by UKScammers, box it all up and sell for £300 - £400. I really don't understand it all. Whats the appeal? Does anyone actually pay the silly prices for them? Grading used to be exclusive for more rare and hard to find items. Grading mass produced items like standard Hulk Hogan Hasbro's etc, doesn't increase its value in any way shape or form. I've made threads on UKG in the past. To me, they have no credibility and it kills me to see collectors having prototypes "graded" by them. They'll grade anything and label it with whatever you tell them the item is. Their acrylic slide bottom cases for carded Hasbro's are cool though!  |
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Post by The Violent Gentleman on Jun 5, 2017 17:02:24 GMT -5
I see WWF Hasbro graded figures up for grabs at £400. even more. So you could get a C10 condition figure for £75, pay £40 to get the piece grade by UKScammers, box it all up and sell for £300 - £400. I really don't understand it all. Whats the appeal? Does anyone actually pay the silly prices for them? Grading used to be exclusive for more rare and hard to find items. Grading mass produced items like standard Hulk Hogan Hasbro's etc, doesn't increase its value in any way shape or form. I've made threads on UKG in the past. To me, they have no credibility and it kills me to see collectors having prototypes "graded" by them. They'll grade anything and label it with whatever you tell them the item is. Their acrylic slide bottom cases for carded Hasbro's are cool though! I just put mine in Zoloworld cases. Great for display and keeps them mint. Way less expensive and silly. |
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Post by Boon on Jun 5, 2017 17:19:13 GMT -5
one thing is, it preserves them.
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Post by kev85hasbro on Jun 6, 2017 0:50:39 GMT -5
one thing is, it preserves them. Think someone should just invent the cases we need. End of being ripped of then. And I don't many people buy into them. |
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 6, 2017 2:00:55 GMT -5
Grading imo is only good for comic books - that has been tested where the same comic has been sent to different graders without giving knowledge of the prior grading and come out with the same grade
There is also a published scale they all use
On figures imo it's a waste of time
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Post by bootan on Jun 6, 2017 4:33:36 GMT -5
I disagree with you all.
Grading increases the value of your item. Be it comics, figures, trading cards, video games, whatever.
I was sick of buying "C9-C10" wrestling figures from all over the world only to unpack them and find creases on the card, dents in the bubble and so on. What someone thinks is C10 and what I think is C10 is totally off.
I am one of those "silly" collectors who is paying extra for top grades because at least I know what Im getting. If a sub grade for the blister is 80 for an LJN for example I know there is a chance of a small dent. Ive learnt the grading system and I know what to avoid and what to go for. Sure its not 100% accurate but its a hell of a lot better than one sellers opinion on what a grade their figure is.
Both AFA and UKG are renown worldwide for grading toys just like BGS and PSA are known for trading cards. No matter what you guys think grading your stuff increases the value and dont think otherwise.
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Post by master_fuji on Jun 6, 2017 5:40:37 GMT -5
I disagree with you all. Grading increases the value of your item. Be it comics, figures, trading cards, video games, whatever. I was sick of buying "C9-C10" wrestling figures from all over the world only to unpack them and find creases on the card, dents in the bubble and so on. What someone thinks is C10 and what I think is C10 is totally off. I am one of those "silly" collectors who is paying extra for top grades because at least I know what Im getting. If a sub grade for the blister is 80 for an LJN for example I know there is a chance of a small dent. Ive learnt the grading system and I know what to avoid and what to go for. Sure its not 100% accurate but its a hell of a lot better than one sellers opinion on what a grade their figure is. Both AFA and UKG are renown worldwide for grading toys just like BGS and PSA are known for trading cards. No matter what you guys think grading your stuff increases the value and dont think otherwise. It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? |
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Post by Boon on Jun 6, 2017 6:16:41 GMT -5
I disagree with you all. Grading increases the value of your item. Be it comics, figures, trading cards, video games, whatever. I was sick of buying "C9-C10" wrestling figures from all over the world only to unpack them and find creases on the card, dents in the bubble and so on. What someone thinks is C10 and what I think is C10 is totally off. I am one of those "silly" collectors who is paying extra for top grades because at least I know what Im getting. If a sub grade for the blister is 80 for an LJN for example I know there is a chance of a small dent. Ive learnt the grading system and I know what to avoid and what to go for. Sure its not 100% accurate but its a hell of a lot better than one sellers opinion on what a grade their figure is. Both AFA and UKG are renown worldwide for grading toys just like BGS and PSA are known for trading cards. No matter what you guys think grading your stuff increases the value and dont think otherwise. It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? But why worry about that IRS etc, no one, is gonna ever pay that or even close to that amount allow people to buy the MOCS, get them graded and then stick a stupid BIN price on them, people ain't gonna pay. |
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Post by Boon on Jun 6, 2017 6:20:21 GMT -5
Grading does not always pay off.......  |
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 6, 2017 11:00:35 GMT -5
It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? But why worry about that IRS etc, no one, is gonna ever pay that or even close to that amount allow people to buy the MOCS, get them graded and then stick a stupid BIN price on them, people ain't gonna pay. Exactly, gotta check sold listings, to see what stuff is really selling for, not the crazy BINs that are never going to actually sell. I still think the grading is crazy, anyone reselling for astronomical prices isn't going to get what they want for it, and it's one less moc that's realisitically up for sale/circulation to collectors. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 12:29:56 GMT -5
I've got to agree that some eBay prices are a joke, some people will try their luck, but it's not a coincidence that they haven't sold.
I'm personally a big fan of the graded items, and just like bootan, I was getting frustrated with people describing items as mint, only to be disappointed when they turned up.
I'm sure that UKG and AFA aren't infallible, they're only human. I personally have had a very positive experience with UKG, and find them very helpful. I'm also aware that they have refused to grade items that they weren't sure were legit.
From my experience a 90 grade item is as perfect as you're going to get and surely deserves to be considered more sought after and therefore more valuable.
If item condition is not your thing, then it's irrelivent I guess
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Post by master_fuji on Jun 6, 2017 12:54:38 GMT -5
I've got to agree that some eBay prices are a joke, some people will try their luck, but it's not a coincidence that they haven't sold. I'm personally a big fan of the graded items, and just like bootan, I was getting frustrated with people describing items as mint, only to be disappointed when they turned up. I'm sure that UKG and AFA aren't infallible, they're only human. I personally have had a very positive experience with UKG, and find them very helpful. I'm also aware that they have refused to grade items that they weren't sure were legit. From my experience a 90 grade item is as perfect as you're going to get and surely deserves to be considered more sought after and therefore more valuable. If item condition is not your thing, then it's irrelivent I guess I wonder if they learned their lesson (along with AFA) after grading all those resealed Star Wars figures. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 13:16:41 GMT -5
I heard that AFA had graded a lot of resealed Star Wars figures, but from what I heard, the scammer had original unused backing cards without blisters attached, so wasn't a standard reseal.
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Post by The Violent Gentleman on Jun 6, 2017 19:34:43 GMT -5
I don't view it as a scam, it's just overboard for what I want as a collector.
I might do it if I found a rare variant or an unreleased figure or prototype.
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Post by bootan on Jun 19, 2017 1:44:26 GMT -5
I disagree with you all. Grading increases the value of your item. Be it comics, figures, trading cards, video games, whatever. I was sick of buying "C9-C10" wrestling figures from all over the world only to unpack them and find creases on the card, dents in the bubble and so on. What someone thinks is C10 and what I think is C10 is totally off. I am one of those "silly" collectors who is paying extra for top grades because at least I know what Im getting. If a sub grade for the blister is 80 for an LJN for example I know there is a chance of a small dent. Ive learnt the grading system and I know what to avoid and what to go for. Sure its not 100% accurate but its a hell of a lot better than one sellers opinion on what a grade their figure is. Both AFA and UKG are renown worldwide for grading toys just like BGS and PSA are known for trading cards. No matter what you guys think grading your stuff increases the value and dont think otherwise. It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? I think the IRS you talk about is probably over priced, but saying that some collectors just want piece of mind. As for all collectables its only worth what you sell it for. I revently purchased a UKG 85 Beefcake 2 for 580 pound (I think it was) Did I overpay? maybe?? but i wanted that figure badly and I wanted it in great condition. Which I have. All collectors are different, some are into grading others are not. I am quite confident I will be able to re-sell the graded figs I have bought with profit. As for the loose hasbros and LJNS you see out there. I agree totally 100% with most of you. It is a waste of time and money. Those tag teams you guys talk about are just plain stupid. But again if collectors want the best loose figures they can find so be it |
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Post by The Violent Gentleman on Jun 19, 2017 23:54:50 GMT -5
It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? I think the IRS you talk about is probably over priced, but saying that some collectors just want piece of mind. As for all collectables its only worth what you sell it for. I revently purchased a UKG 85 Beefcake 2 for 580 pound (I think it was) Did I overpay? maybe?? but i wanted that figure badly and I wanted it in great condition. Which I have. All collectors are different, some are into grading others are not. I am quite confident I will be able to re-sell the graded figs I have bought with profit. As for the loose hasbros and LJNS you see out there. I agree totally 100% with most of you. It is a waste of time and money. Those tag teams you guys talk about are just plain stupid. But again if collectors want the best loose figures they can find so be it Mother of God. No offense, but you way overpaid. But hey, it's your money and you know it's in great shape. |
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Post by mcfclee on Jun 20, 2017 0:42:47 GMT -5
It depends what items you're referring to, really. This is about the mass of UKG "graded" items on eBay at the moment with ridiculous markups. Do you think that a MOC Hasbro IRS graded at "85%" by UKG is worthy of a £300 ($385) price tag just to ensure you get it in good condition? I don't know what qualifies UKG as experts in all honesty. The clueless grading of Hasbro tag-teams was laughable - Warlord and Berzerker as Powers of Pain? I think the IRS you talk about is probably over priced, but saying that some collectors just want piece of mind. As for all collectables its only worth what you sell it for. I revently purchased a UKG 85 Beefcake 2 for 580 pound (I think it was) Did I overpay? maybe?? but i wanted that figure badly and I wanted it in great condition. Which I have. All collectors are different, some are into grading others are not. I am quite confident I will be able to re-sell the graded figs I have bought with profit. As for the loose hasbros and LJNS you see out there. I agree totally 100% with most of you. It is a waste of time and money. Those tag teams you guys talk about are just plain stupid. But again if collectors want the best loose figures they can find so be it I'm glad you're happy, but that's right up there for beinone of the biggest overspends on any product I've ever ever heard. I'm legit stunned! |
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 20, 2017 18:11:44 GMT -5
Why is it a hard concept to understand? You pay what you want. What's to much to you is just right for another. I'm sure anyone can pick out something in their collection that someone else would think they paid to much.
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Post by bootan on Jun 21, 2017 22:06:58 GMT -5
I think the IRS you talk about is probably over priced, but saying that some collectors just want piece of mind. As for all collectables its only worth what you sell it for. I revently purchased a UKG 85 Beefcake 2 for 580 pound (I think it was) Did I overpay? maybe?? but i wanted that figure badly and I wanted it in great condition. Which I have. All collectors are different, some are into grading others are not. I am quite confident I will be able to re-sell the graded figs I have bought with profit. As for the loose hasbros and LJNS you see out there. I agree totally 100% with most of you. It is a waste of time and money. Those tag teams you guys talk about are just plain stupid. But again if collectors want the best loose figures they can find so be it I'm glad you're happy, but that's right up there for beinone of the biggest overspends on any product I've ever ever heard. I'm legit stunned! There is another graded Beefcake 2 on that big auction site right now. It has a price tag of $550 USD. Its graded AFA 80. I'm still happy with my purchase. |
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