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Post by Bandalero on Jun 20, 2017 11:38:14 GMT -5
Before Miz gave his entourage proposal to Bo & Ax, I was thinking why don't they just package up Bo with his brother, but this trio really works for me. We all agree that separated, Cass & Enzo will flounder, however Cass could be the "Sid Vicious" of Miz's entourage.
I want to see honest-to-goodness beatdowns of old, week after week, that's how you establish a badass stable. What will crush this potential stable is if they superman book Dean next week to lay waste to all three guys at the same time, which creative is more than capable of booking.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 20, 2017 12:48:42 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the Rollins promo with Bray. I thought the banter of "God only exists in your mind" really worked. A bit edgy given the number of people who still believe in God. Rollins flipped it on Bray though and I thought the whole segment was great. Not sure how he cut his face, but he looked like the guy from the video game trailer because of it. "Come on Pookie, let's burn this mother er down!" Samoa Joe is so good right now. He was on absolute fire against Reigns. He honestly makes Reigns look like he's cosplaying a tough guy, as opposed to actually being one. You can't fake what Joe has in persona. I think that's what makes Joe vs Brock so compelling. I really wish they would put the title on him, but that's false hope. Joe has taken everything he's been given since NXT and smashed it out of the park imo. Glad Braun is back. I was hoping they would do a bit of an overhaul on his look before his return, but that is what it is. Guy is super over, which is hilarious since WWE used him as a tool to get Roman over, did nothing with him at Mania, and he's still a bigger babyface than the guy they've spent 3 full years pushing to the moon as the top baby. I like Miz having an entourage. I like that they're doing something with Bo and Axel. BUT, those two would, undoubtedly, work better with Bray Wyatt. Seems like Blake and Murphy would be a perfect fit for Miz's cronies. Hard for me to take an attack seriously when Graves is calling them the Paw Patrol haha. Regardless, I love the IC Champion leading a stable. Makes him seem like a huge deal, and Miz is the perfect guy to carry a stable. Hopefully Axel and Bo get a look overhaul and come out in suits and new wrestling gear in the coming weeks. Not for nothing, they've done an excellent job tying Nia and Alexa together. I was afraid once they had to give Nia her title shot the build would be over, but they keep adding to that friendship story and I really like how they've done it. Glad Emma is back in the mix. They had the right idea with Bayley but it wasn't enough for me. She REALLY needed to come out and hammer someone, Alexa in particular. I just didn't feel like we got enough of what was definitely the right idea. Big Show punking Cass was hilarious. The whole closing segment was really strong imo. Cass delivered his stuff authoritatively, Enzo got that tear out and looked lost, and I think the crowd reacted according to plan. However, I still think it's a horrible idea to split Enzo and Cass. Enzo will be fine. Cass isn't ever going to be more than he is right now. It's too much, too soon and they got a fraction of the mileage out of Enzo and Cass that they should have gotten. Solid Raw. Far more good than bad for me.
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Post by Chip on Jun 20, 2017 15:09:04 GMT -5
people are only saying Cass being the one to turn was "obvious" because it happened...the whole point of the storyline was to actually keep people guessing, because they tried to make it obvious that it was the revival....which means it could have been, they teased the big show thing...and they've turned show so many times it would have been laughable, or they could even have brought someone new into the fold. there was ZERO "obvious" to it being Cass. it was nothing but assumption. and in the end it's going to turn into one of the dumbest decisions this company has ever made
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Post by Chip on Jun 20, 2017 15:14:13 GMT -5
i just dont understand if you want a guy to be a big singles star like Cass, why not just book him as a singles star but with the occasional team match for 's sake there are 57 tag team matches with main event guys every week anyway. you can have Cass wanting to chase a singles title and Enzo backing him up....why does everything in wrestling have to end with one guy getting jealous of the other and "Turning" on him? thats NOT real life....i have friends, and when my friends do something great i'm HAPPY for them and want to see them succeed. there's literally ZERO creativity anymore, every single story is the exact same vanilla cookie cutter GARBAGE. "well we want Cass as a singles star.....so make him say Enzo is holding him back" its like there are literally 14 other ways they could do things but all they do is the exact same crap they've been doing for 50 years. it's boring, repetitive, stale and predictable. there is literally no shock value to watching this ing crapty company anymore. its literally the same show every single week.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 20, 2017 16:23:42 GMT -5
What they should have done was had someone attack Enzo and made it so he could no longer wrestle for storyline sake or be out of action for storyline sake and kept him as Cass' manager and mouthpiece. It would have really gotten him over and kept the door open for a tag team again when they wanted to "clear" Enzo. Could have even set up Cass' first feud. But WWE is WWE with no long term direction .
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jun 20, 2017 18:06:03 GMT -5
people are only saying Cass being the one to turn was "obvious" because it happened...the whole point of the storyline was to actually keep people guessing, because they tried to make it obvious that it was the revival....which means it could have been, they teased the big show thing...and they've turned show so many times it would have been laughable, or they could even have brought someone new into the fold. there was ZERO "obvious" to it being Cass. it was nothing but assumption. and in the end it's going to turn into one of the dumbest decisions this company has ever made Helen Keller could've seen it coming mate. It was painfully obvious. End of story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 20:32:29 GMT -5
people are only saying Cass being the one to turn was "obvious" because it happened...the whole point of the storyline was to actually keep people guessing, because they tried to make it obvious that it was the revival....which means it could have been, they teased the big show thing...and they've turned show so many times it would have been laughable, or they could even have brought someone new into the fold. there was ZERO "obvious" to it being Cass. it was nothing but assumption. and in the end it's going to turn into one of the dumbest decisions this company has ever made Helen Keller could've seen it coming mate. It was painfully obvious. End of story. I'm with you bud; I saw it coming a mile away and didn't want to be right, but there it is. Sigh.
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Post by Bandalero on Jun 20, 2017 21:22:59 GMT -5
sorry Chip, I think even Bill Cosby could see it coming while he waited for his hung jury, it was THAT obvious. The Revival and Big Show red herrings were poorly executed that I think they were writing for the kids in the audience, not us jaded smart fans. Like seriously, you see Revival sneaking in the background each time? C'mon. What would have been an excellent twist was to reveal both Enzo & Cass knocking each other out each week! That's different, I can't recall a tag team break-up angle like that before. Make both guys feel like the other guy was holding them back; now you got the audience in the palm of your hand - those who like Enzo and those who like Cass and both characters are flawed because they both did something wrong. It would have been a FRESH idea, but instead they went with the same old stuff.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 21, 2017 0:34:02 GMT -5
sorry Chip, I think even Bill Cosby could see it coming while he waited for his hung jury, it was THAT obvious. The Revival and Big Show red herrings were poorly executed that I think they were writing for the kids in the audience, not us jaded smart fans. Like seriously, you see Revival sneaking in the background each time? C'mon. What would have been an excellent twist was to reveal both Enzo & Cass knocking each other out each week! That's different, I can't recall a tag team break-up angle like that before. Make both guys feel like the other guy was holding them back; now you got the audience in the palm of your hand - those who like Enzo and those who like Cass and both characters are flawed because they both did something wrong. It would have been a FRESH idea, but instead they went with the same old stuff. I actually really like that idea. Like you said it was something fresh and it could have been dragged out a little bit longer that way also. This was almost like hey guys we give up here it is
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