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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 20, 2017 2:03:37 GMT -5
So tonight we finally seen the outcome of Cass and Enzo being attacked. I remember weeks ago when Cass told Corey Graves to shake his hand, people speculated it was Cass that attacked Enzo. But then Cass got attacked after all that.
So my question is, do you think the WWE had it planned out that it was gonna be Cass turning on Enzo, or do you think it was a last minute decision today to say, "oh, uh.... let's have it be Big Cass that attacked Enzo, yeah, that will work"??
I think it's cool that they are gonna give Cass a push on his own, but I feel that Enzo and Cass could have at least went another year or so as a tag team before a split occurred. Just seems like really forced story telling by the WWE creative team. Like they really weren't sure what they were gonna do with this story line.
I rather have seen it be a Smackdown team or an NXT team attack Enzo and Cass, that would have made a bit more sense.
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Post by Mark Martin on Jun 20, 2017 2:11:35 GMT -5
I think as soon as Vince saw Big Cass in person for the first time he had a master plan to get him away from Enzo as soon as he could.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jun 20, 2017 2:33:21 GMT -5
Not a big fan of Cass at all, dude just doesn't do it for me. And his attire is pretty bland.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jun 20, 2017 2:52:25 GMT -5
IMO, if they really wanted to push Big Cass, they didn't necessarily have to split them up. I feel this is gonna turn into both of them not succeeding on their own. They could have just had Enzo as his mouthpiece and occasionally team up. Anyways, Big Cass cut his best promo ever and it made sense as to why Big Cass wanted to turn on Enzo. Ill give it a chance, but i dont see it succeeding
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Post by hbkowns on Jun 20, 2017 3:07:42 GMT -5
Dumbest decision I've seen in awhile. Like really, it's bad. This can only come from Vince's head.
I'm sure Trips is fuming that all of his NXT creations are getting flushed down the toilet thanks to Vince and co. It's sad really. Enzo and Cass were a big part of the initial boom of NXT and you would think logically that they would be Uber successful on the main roster. Their gimmick and personalities were license to print money. You could have argued they were the most popular tag-team besides New Day.
Only Vince can mess that up. Jeeesh, the ratings deserve to suffer after stuff like this.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 20, 2017 3:37:28 GMT -5
Dumbest decision I've seen in awhile. Like really, it's bad. This can only come from Vince's head. I'm sure Trips is fuming that all of his NXT creations are getting flushed down the toilet thanks to Vince and co. It's sad really. Enzo and Cass were a big part of the initial boom of NXT and you would think logically that they would be Uber successful on the main roster. Their gimmick and personalities were license to print money. You could have argued they were the most popular tag-team besides New Day. Only Vince can mess that up. Jeeesh, the ratings deserve to suffer after stuff like this. Granted I did not watch most of RAW last night but I agree 100%. Enzo and Cass should've had a run as Tag Champions before they split them up. As over as they were in NXT, it is a crime they never had a run as the NXT Tag Team Champions. The more I read about how frustrated Triple H is, the more it becomes true. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 20, 2017 4:54:55 GMT -5
I just don't get Vince. Enzo and Cass were the most over team in over a decade and sold huge merch so Vince has basically burned money.
Did Vince wear earplugs during their main roster run?, because looking at how badly they were booked he obviously didn't know how popular they were.
The real sad part about last night was Cass's face. You could tell in his eye's that he was unhappy about the split and deep down he probably knows that both he and Enzo will fall hard.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jun 20, 2017 5:20:28 GMT -5
It was a bad idea from a logistics perspective. Raw is flush with top heels who are both better in the ring than Cass, and better on the mic. What WWE is weak on right now is tag teams, they have been watered down across 2 brands. We will be getting New Day/Usos for the next 3 months. We have already gotten Hardys/Shesaro every week since Mania. Enzo/Cass was one of the most over acts on the roster, and guess what, they filled a void where WWE had a weakness. Makes very little sense splitting them this early into their main roster run.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jun 20, 2017 5:37:15 GMT -5
I've never been able to stand Enzo Amore, but I've always thought Big Cass had a unique look to him, and intrigued by a potential singles run for him. So personally I'm happy with this decision, purely because of my dislike for Enzo, but I can definitely see why people are upset by this decision.
However, I can agree that RAW's tag team division will suffer with one less team.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jun 20, 2017 5:53:07 GMT -5
This is one of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen. Like someone else said, they didn't need to break these guys up to push Cass as a singles star. The guy could have used Enzo as his manager and it would have worked fine.
With this, Cass will get a push, flounder and then poof, its over. Nobody will get any good of this.
Vince is the only one who can make such a dumb decision.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jun 20, 2017 6:25:31 GMT -5
Triple H is probably livid
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jun 20, 2017 6:42:52 GMT -5
Remember when Cryme Tyme split up because Shad turned on JTG, and they both went on to have successful singles careers?
Remember when The Prime Time Players split up twice because titus turned on Young, and they both went on to have successful singles careers?
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 20, 2017 6:58:46 GMT -5
Enzo gets a ton of hate from old folks but he's the only entertaining thing about that team. Big Cass is big, slow monotone and boring. At least Enzo can make ya laugh a bit.
I think this was a terrible choice.
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Post by ARUN on Jun 20, 2017 7:08:59 GMT -5
Not a fan of this move. Plus they were over as hell. Sold merchandise etc. Not a good business move in my opinion. I don't see big Cass being able to make it on his own. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 20, 2017 7:20:10 GMT -5
Enzo gets a ton of hate from old folks but he's the only entertaining thing about that team. Big Cass is big, slow monotone and boring. At least Enzo can make ya laugh a bit. I think this was a terrible choice. Cass needed Enzo more than Enzo needed him IMO. Enzo could go on to be a Santino type wrestler while Cass will flop and end up off TV. |
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Post by Angel Beast on Jun 20, 2017 7:43:50 GMT -5
Remember when Cryme Tyme split up because Shad turned on JTG, and they both went on to have successful singles careers? Remember when The Prime Time Players split up twice because titus turned on Young, and they both went on to have successful singles careers? Enzo better not pick up his phone. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jun 20, 2017 8:19:10 GMT -5
I'm excited to hear Cass's generic heel theme next week
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jun 20, 2017 9:24:08 GMT -5
The problem is they weren't established long enough. Sonits just whatever. That and the fact it's been done to death. Tag team comes in, wrestles a couple months, split. Keep them together, give them the belts, some good feuds, draw it out for a few years. Make people say oh crap that was out of no where.
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Post by McBlake on Jun 20, 2017 9:38:59 GMT -5
I really don't see where JTG, sorry, Enzo goes from here. I mean I guess he could have a fairly successful run in 205 Live?
I found their shtick pretty entertaining for the most part. It was getting rather repetitive and boring, but I thought that was just me. Same with their matches. Every single one consisted of Enzo getting beat up and awaiting the hot tag. Both of those were more down to booking though and they do seem like a couple of genuinely nice guys that suited each other a nd cancelled out the others flaws. A change of direction was needed, not a split.
Yeah, I'm in the big mistake camp.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jun 20, 2017 9:41:22 GMT -5
So now the only legitimate face tag team are the Hardyz? The logic behind some of the moves this company makes are absolutely baffling.
If the reports of HHH being pissed about Vince's use of NXT guys, I wonder how grinded he is over this? Balor stuck in midcard purgatory with Sampson, Alpha and Tye are M.I.A., Bayley has been screwed up from the get go, Breeze could have been good on his own, Wyatt and Family have been shat on since they have come in.
I mean the potential is there, but its like Vince is pushing every wrong button imaginable......on purpose
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