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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jul 24, 2017 4:08:24 GMT -5
I thought the show was great :/
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Post by Cameron Stone on Jul 24, 2017 5:06:49 GMT -5
Horrible show. Owens/AJ and the tag title match were both really solid, but the rest was bad.
Nakamura clearly doesn't care. Sorry, but it's true.
Punjabi Prison was honestly one of the worst ppv matches I've seen in the PG era.
Flag match was also total trash.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jul 24, 2017 6:55:24 GMT -5
How can anyone take Khali as a threat after he spent half of his career dancing around in bright red pants
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Post by mutafan on Jul 24, 2017 7:20:09 GMT -5
The most predictable pay per view. the action was good but out come to matches was predictable. even Khalis return was predictable. the ladies match was the only match that was not but who ever wins at summerslam Carmella will cash in on after the win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 8:17:57 GMT -5
Great balls of fire blew this show out of the water. Just like Raw has been the better show since Royal Rumble. if you think otherwise you are delusional.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jul 24, 2017 8:43:51 GMT -5
The problem with SD is that they have main eventers feuding over a midcard title. I understand they want to elevate the title, but to do that they need to have a main eventer defend it against a midcard guy or a up and comer (ala John Cena).
AJ and K.O. still feuding does nothing for either, and it seems like they just haven't been able to click together. AJ should be feuding with Jinder and Nakamura with Owens (over the US Title).
As for Nakamura, I feel like you can see he is not 100% into it and my guess is that upper brass have told him to scale back on the strong style, or he is just unhappy about his card placement.
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Post by J12 on Jul 24, 2017 11:36:09 GMT -5
I'm a little dumbfounded by the amount of Jinder Mahal defenders I hear from. I mean we have been ripping Roman Reigns for years now for getting opportunities he didn't deserve. Now here comes Jinder who is just as terrible on the mic and worse in the ring, yet is main eventing over guys like Styles, Nakamura, Owens, and Zayn. It's been a joke from day one yet people continue to try really hard to find positives in it. He's horrible And is it just me, or is the WWE completely focused on their total divas women right now? Alexa and Naomi are champions. Natalya is challenging for the title. Charlotte and Becky are just wasting away and it has to have something to do with total divas. I mean it's SUMMERSLAM!!!! and Naomi vs. Natalya is what you come up with? When it initially happened, a lot of people were coming out of the woodwork with the argument that it was a good move simply because it was different and fresh. Unfortunately, "different and fresh" does not exclusively equate good. In this case, it was bad then, and it's still bad now. A lot of that has washed away at this point as more and more people realize that there's no "stepping up to the plate" with Jinder Mahal. He's a below average worker, a below average promo, and a below average character stuck in a below average feud for a title he has no business being anywhere near. He's exposed for exactly what he is each week. That's not his fault. He's doing his best in the role given to him, but he's been hugely miscast.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 12:36:14 GMT -5
Remember when we were all praying AJ wouldn't go to RAW.What a mistake that was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 12:45:12 GMT -5
How can anyone take Khali as a threat after he spent half of his career dancing around in bright red pants Mark Henry was a hell of a threat during his Hall of Pain World Title run, and he spent parts of his career ing Mae Young and fathering a hand. It's pro wrestling.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 24, 2017 13:01:04 GMT -5
The problem with SD is that they have main eventers feuding over a midcard title. I understand they want to elevate the title, but to do that they need to have a main eventer defend it against a midcard guy or a up and comer (ala John Cena). AJ and K.O. still feuding does nothing for either, and it seems like they just haven't been able to click together. AJ should be feuding with Jinder and Nakamura with Owens (over the US Title). As for Nakamura, I feel like you can see he is not 100% into it and my guess is that upper brass have told him to scale back on the strong style, or he is just unhappy about his card placement. WWE is ass backwards. You have Jinder Mahal in the main event and Owens and AJ for the US title.
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Post by J12 on Jul 24, 2017 13:45:37 GMT -5
Running through the whole card:
The opening tag match was fantastic. These two teams have tremendous chemistry. I love heel Usos and would have liked to have seen them hold onto the titles longer, but I can't complain after that showing. This match stole the show, and it wasn't even close. All downhill from here.
Nakamura/Corbin was another disappointment in what has amounted to a string of disappointments from Nakamura. I like both of these guys quite a bit, and while Corbin isn't a stellar worker, he's been carried to some really solid matches in the past. I don't think Shinsuke did him any favors here (and vice versa.) Slow and plodding with an unsatisfactory conclusion. That would end up being the name of the game for the rest of the night.
The womens match was what it was. We've seen this multi-women format on Smackdown so many times that it just feels like a repeat, no matter what they do and how they do it. Natalya winning was a bit of a surprise, though she was really the only option unless they wanted to turn Charlotte or go with a babyface vs. babyface match. Charlotte has regressed an unbelievable amount since moving over to Smackdown. Her character has been neutered, she's been an abysmal babyface, and she doesn't have the right opponents to work alongside. It's hard to believe this is the woman who was main eventing Raw semi-regularly not all that long ago. As for Nattie, I like her in-ring work and hope she can get a good match out of Naomi. I'd definitely like to see them switch the title.
AJ/Owens was a huge disappointment. Sometimes, two outstanding workers just don't click and that's what we saw last night (and really, throughout their feud.) Their Backlash match was better, and both matches had horribly unsatisfying finishes.
Cena/Rusev was an absolute chore. The flag match stipulation was a terrible idea in the first place, and it lived up to that in execution. There is no way these two needed to go 21 minutes. There was nothing to this feud, nothing to get invested in, and neither guy seemed to be putting forth a Pay-Per-View effort. The first 10-12 minutes could've easily been plucked from any house show match over the last several years. Slow, methodical, and uninteresting. These two have had good matches in the past, but it didn't work last night. Lots of boneheaded spots that are par for the course with this type of stip, all magnified by the pacing.
Zayn/Kanellis was a match. They sure did define Mike and Maria down quickly. I'm not necessarily sure that's a bad thing, as the gimmick is definitely mid-card. But, when you're a fresh talent losing cleanly to Sami Zayn, the odds aren't in your favor.
The main event was terrible. The Punjabi Prison is a silly gimmick to begin with, and putting a cold feud with two uninteresting characters inside it made it that much worse. Each section of the match was far too long, and they managed to work a bonafide carbon copy of their last two bouts despite having a stipulation to shake things up. Orton is made out to be clearly superior to Mahal, match devolves into a 3-on-1 handicap match, Randy Orton kills the Singh Brothers. Repeat. The "twist" to this third encounter just happened to be the return of The Great Khali, who, of course, everyone was just dying to see again.
There have been quite a few completely forgettable brand-exclusive Pay-Per-Views since the split, but it's hard to imagine this not being the worst. Smackdown has become a shell of what it was in late 2016, and a clear inferior to Raw, despite having the advantage of being only two hours. There is absolutely no reason to watch this show beyond the opener.
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Post by J12 on Jul 25, 2017 9:47:12 GMT -5
What do you think they're planning for Mike and Maria beyond the Zayn feud? I'm really not sure, honestly. It's hard to imagine them being in line for anything significant after essentially going 50/50 with Zayn. I guess maybe they continue that for a little bit? The mid-card is so thin on Smackdown that there really isn't much for them to do.
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Post by Triple S on Jul 25, 2017 9:52:31 GMT -5
What do you think they're planning for Mike and Maria beyond the Zayn feud? I'm really not sure, honestly. It's hard to imagine them being in line for anything significant after essentially going 50/50 with Zayn. I guess maybe they continue that for a little bit? The mid-card is so thin on Smackdown that there really isn't much for them to do. Oh, there's no doubt that the Kanellis/Zayn feud doesn't continue until at least after SummerSlam.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 25, 2017 13:12:48 GMT -5
Great opener but after that I pretty much switched off until the main event.
I personally really enjoyed the Punjabi Prison match and I legitimately marked out for the Great Khali. The sight of him shaking the cage and waiting for Orton at the bottom was actually frightening.
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