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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 6, 2017 0:56:15 GMT -5
America.... Don't be like the UK. We have no right to self-preservation in this country. If a home intruder breaks into your house here, you are completely unable by law to defend yourself. You are ed. The police are not adequate protection, they cannot save you in time. If you truly love and want to protect your family, hold on to the rights you have and never let any one take them away from you. We may have low gun crime rates, but we have some of the highest violent crime rates in the WORLD. The highest in Europe. Higher than America. A gun can be a device to inflict great damage. They also save countless lives every year. France has strict gun laws, that did not stop 86 people from dying at the hands of a terror attack in Nice, where nearly 500 additional people were injured. BY A TRUCK. Vehicles are becoming an extremely popular and efficient way for terrorists to kill large numbers of people. Should we outlaw them, also? By taking away guns, you will ONLY be taking away guns from people who will use them for self-preservation. Terrorists will still illegally acquire guns. The government will still have them, and we've seen countless times throughout history; governments turning tyrannical. It can still happen. Look at Catalonia and Spain. America is one of few countries that still allows its citizens the human right of PROTECTING THEMSELVES. The United States averages 1.3 mass shootings PER DAY and we have well over 30,000 gun deaths per year. The fact that people think stricter gun laws and gun control is going to stop gun violence is utterly ridiculous. Like democratic socialism, stricter gun laws have worked literally everywhere they've been tried. Since you're spitting numbers... www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txtHave a gander at these files from 2003-2007. No need to put a significant amount of Americans at risk to be easier taken advantage of by criminals. Keyword: CRIMINALS. Blame them. Not guns. Criminals are blamed for any other crime unless it's a mass shooting then it's all "let's ban guns." Criminals won't abide by gun laws. Look how that works out for literally every other illegal act. Democrats typically push the gun law/ban agenda. Democrats typically say abortion should be legal. So... they worry about innocents getting killed by guns but what about those innocent unborn babies? It's a free country. We don't need the government trying to take a law and use it AGAINST its original purpose. We have a right to bear arms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 2:55:48 GMT -5
America.... Don't be like the UK. We have no right to self-preservation in this country. If a home intruder breaks into your house here, you are completely unable by law to defend yourself. You are ed. The police are not adequate protection, they cannot save you in time. If you truly love and want to protect your family, hold on to the rights you have and never let any one take them away from you. We may have low gun crime rates, but we have some of the highest violent crime rates in the WORLD. The highest in Europe. Higher than America. A gun can be a device to inflict great damage. They also save countless lives every year. France has strict gun laws, that did not stop 86 people from dying at the hands of a terror attack in Nice, where nearly 500 additional people were injured. BY A TRUCK. Vehicles are becoming an extremely popular and efficient way for terrorists to kill large numbers of people. Should we outlaw them, also? By taking away guns, you will ONLY be taking away guns from people who will use them for self-preservation. Terrorists will still illegally acquire guns. The government will still have them, and we've seen countless times throughout history; governments turning tyrannical. It can still happen. Look at Catalonia and Spain. America is one of few countries that still allows its citizens the human right of PROTECTING THEMSELVES. The United States averages 1.3 mass shootings PER DAY and we have well over 30,000 gun deaths per year. The fact that people think stricter gun laws and gun control is going to stop gun violence is utterly ridiculous. Like democratic socialism, stricter gun laws have worked literally everywhere they've been tried. Sure worked well for Chicago. Oh wait. LOL so hard at the idea of 'democratic socialism' working.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 5:29:57 GMT -5
If anybody seriously thinks socialism works, why not flee the dreadful capitalism of the US to socialist haven of Venezuela? I hope you like the taste of flamingos.
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Post by 6 seasons and a movie on Oct 6, 2017 8:46:33 GMT -5
Chicago's gun laws don't work in large part because of Indiana. Most of the guns are bought legally there and brought to Chicago. If people can just drive a couple of hours and buy guns in a state that isn't very strict on gun sales then it is hard to really have and effective gun restriction. Also when Indiana allows people to buy a large number of guns at one time it allows someone to buy lots of guns legally and then later sell them in Chicago illegally. So if you put limits on the number of guns people can buy and what types of guns people can buy it would lower the number of guns on the streets. Its a problem, when people can go to a gun show and be turn down on a background check and then just go into the parking lot and get someone else to buy the gun and then sell it to them and that is technically legal.
Restrictions can help. If you don't want to do it because it won't stop all of it then why don't we just make all drugs legal since we can't stop all of it right, let's just make murder and rape legal because we can't stop all of it.
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Post by k5 on Oct 6, 2017 10:51:20 GMT -5
If anybody seriously thinks socialism works, why not flee the dreadful capitalism of the US to socialist haven of Venezuela? I hope you like the taste of flamingos. Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 11:43:54 GMT -5
If anybody seriously thinks socialism works, why not flee the dreadful capitalism of the US to socialist haven of Venezuela? I hope you like the taste of flamingos. Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it. Sweden has become a cesspool of crime. It's barely a country anymore. In fact, none of these countries are even socialist. Denmark isn't even a socialist country, it has a free market economy. Ergo, not socialist. Socialism and 'social democracy' are not one and the same. You're conflating them. Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns means of production. See Venezuela, Cuba, China. I haven't said anything about abortion so I have no idea what the hell you're on about. Chicago's gun laws don't work in large part because of Indiana. Most of the guns are bought legally there and brought to Chicago. If people can just drive a couple of hours and buy guns in a state that isn't very strict on gun sales then it is hard to really have and effective gun restriction. Also when Indiana allows people to buy a large number of guns at one time it allows someone to buy lots of guns legally and then later sell them in Chicago illegally. So if you put limits on the number of guns people can buy and what types of guns people can buy it would lower the number of guns on the streets. Its a problem, when people can go to a gun show and be turn down on a background check and then just go into the parking lot and get someone else to buy the gun and then sell it to them and that is technically legal. Restrictions can help. If you don't want to do it because it won't stop all of it then why don't we just make all drugs legal since we can't stop all of it right, let's just make murder and rape legal because we can't stop all of it. Lots of debunked myths here. That you're equating the ownership of a tool used for self-preservation with raping or murdering people shows how unbelievably unequipped you are to tackle this debate.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 6, 2017 11:59:46 GMT -5
Guns were made to kill, end of story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 12:02:06 GMT -5
Guns were made to protect, end of story. Fixed that for you there, bud.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 6, 2017 12:14:31 GMT -5
If anybody seriously thinks socialism works, why not flee the dreadful capitalism of the US to socialist haven of Venezuela? I hope you like the taste of flamingos. Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it. I'm assuming you're referring to my abortion comment. If so, I find it EXTREMELY ironic that you find my comment as 'straight cringe' as I believe yours is far worse. I'll break it down for you. You say they happen whether there's medical aid or not so making it as safe as possible is the best route. Violent gun crimes happen no matter the gun laws so making it possible for citizens to be armed puts the majority of the population as safe as possible. How can an innocent people protect themselves against a criminal with a gun if the innocent do not have a gun? You ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? You say the people's health is far more important than my opinion? Make your words soft and sweet so they go down easier when you eat them. You obviously disregarding the unborn child's rights, safety, health and CHOICE. Funny how pro-choice neglects the choice of the baby. Also, if you say the health of them matters more than my opinion, then that means the rights and safety of American citizens matter more than your opinion on guns.
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Post by k5 on Oct 6, 2017 12:42:36 GMT -5
Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it. I'm assuming you're referring to my abortion comment. If so, I find it EXTREMELY ironic that you find my comment as 'straight cringe' as I believe yours is far worse. I'll break it down for you. You say they happen whether there's medical aid or not so making it as safe as possible is the best route. Violent gun crimes happen no matter the gun laws so making it possible for citizens to be armed puts the majority of the population as safe as possible. How can an innocent people protect themselves against a criminal with a gun if the innocent do not have a gun? You ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? You say the people's health is far more important than my opinion? Make your words soft and sweet so they go down easier when you eat them. You obviously disregarding the unborn child's rights, safety, health and CHOICE. Funny how pro-choice neglects the choice of the baby. Also, if you say the health of them matters more than my opinion, then that means the rights and safety of American citizens matter more than your opinion on guns. honestly, if you can’t comprehend the difference in necessity to providing someone a safe route to end pregnancy to semi automatic guns that were designed to murder people, then there’s no use having a discussion here. cold blooded murderers who use weapons you place in the same category as people who are having to make a massive life choice, often out of poverty or lack of education, and would never intentionally kill a person. notice how abortion is legal? notice how shooting someone isn’t? the law and society has already come to certain realizations that clearly you haven’t.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 6, 2017 12:52:24 GMT -5
Guns were made to protect, end of story. Fixed that for you there, bud. And how does that protection occur? By killing.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 6, 2017 12:59:35 GMT -5
I'm assuming you're referring to my abortion comment. If so, I find it EXTREMELY ironic that you find my comment as 'straight cringe' as I believe yours is far worse. I'll break it down for you. You say they happen whether there's medical aid or not so making it as safe as possible is the best route. Violent gun crimes happen no matter the gun laws so making it possible for citizens to be armed puts the majority of the population as safe as possible. How can an innocent people protect themselves against a criminal with a gun if the innocent do not have a gun? You ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? You say the people's health is far more important than my opinion? Make your words soft and sweet so they go down easier when you eat them. You obviously disregarding the unborn child's rights, safety, health and CHOICE. Funny how pro-choice neglects the choice of the baby. Also, if you say the health of them matters more than my opinion, then that means the rights and safety of American citizens matter more than your opinion on guns. honestly, if you can’t comprehend the difference in necessity to providing someone a safe route to end pregnancy to semi automatic guns that were designed to murder people, then there’s no use having a discussion here. cold blooded murderers who use weapons you place in the same category as people who are having to make a massive life choice, often out of poverty or lack of education, and would never intentionally kill a person. notice how abortion is legal? notice how shooting someone isn’t? the law and society has already come to certain realizations that clearly you haven’t. I don't blame gun crimes on guns. I blame the crime on the person who commits it. You're as wishy washy as every other anti-gun person. Do you blame guns or blame the criminal? There's hundreds of products on the market that can take a life or even multiple lives. If you drink Drano it will probably kill you. If you don't drink it, it just sits there in the bottle. If you take a gun and shoot a person they will likely die. If you don't take it and shoot someone, the gun will rest where it lies. I'm of the realization that human beings murder human beings. There's thousands of ways of doing so. You can have every gun law there is but it won't fix rage, obsession, mental disorders, depression, delusion, etc. Murder is as old as human existence. It doesn't matter the weapon of choice, but the choice of the human committing the murder. All I take from this is you're okay with a human murdering an innocent unborn but you're against guns. Did you know if you kill a pregnant woman they charge you with double homicide? Wake up dude.Guns are meant for protection. Don't put millions at risk because of a few thousand lunatics. Criminals WILL NOT follow gun laws. It's idiotic and unjust to take an American RIGHT away from Americans because of criminals. And I read you're from Canada? Just enjoy your laws and way of living and quit trying to tell Americans what their laws should be.
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Post by k5 on Oct 6, 2017 13:10:28 GMT -5
Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it. Sweden has become a cesspool of crime. It's barely a country anymore. In fact, none of these countries are even socialist. Denmark isn't even a socialist country, it has a free market economy. Ergo, not socialist. Socialism and 'social democracy' are not one and the same. You're conflating them. Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns means of production. See Venezuela, Cuba, China. I haven't said anything about abortion so I have no idea what the hell you're on about. here’s the thing - social democracy is a social-economic module. it applies that theory of equality throughout it’s practices. while these countries do support free market economies, I suggest reading into sweden’s Folkhemmet system to understand why Sweden would be viewed as a largely socialist country - and the rest of the Scandinavian socialist countries en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkhemmet
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Post by 6 seasons and a movie on Oct 6, 2017 13:11:40 GMT -5
Denmark is the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Norway, and Finland quickly follow. Venezuela follows authoritirian socialism, similar to China. can’t really just group them together. Venezuela has been under the bus since Chávez came into dictatorial power in 98. and your pro-life comments are straight cringe. abortions happen rather there is medical aid or not so making them as safe as possible is the best route. and these people’s health is far more important than your opinion on it. Sweden has become a cesspool of crime. It's barely a country anymore. In fact, none of these countries are even socialist. Denmark isn't even a socialist country, it has a free market economy. Ergo, not socialist. Socialism and 'social democracy' are not one and the same. You're conflating them. Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns means of production. See Venezuela, Cuba, China. I haven't said anything about abortion so I have no idea what the hell you're on about. Chicago's gun laws don't work in large part because of Indiana. Most of the guns are bought legally there and brought to Chicago. If people can just drive a couple of hours and buy guns in a state that isn't very strict on gun sales then it is hard to really have and effective gun restriction. Also when Indiana allows people to buy a large number of guns at one time it allows someone to buy lots of guns legally and then later sell them in Chicago illegally. So if you put limits on the number of guns people can buy and what types of guns people can buy it would lower the number of guns on the streets. Its a problem, when people can go to a gun show and be turn down on a background check and then just go into the parking lot and get someone else to buy the gun and then sell it to them and that is technically legal. Restrictions can help. If you don't want to do it because it won't stop all of it then why don't we just make all drugs legal since we can't stop all of it right, let's just make murder and rape legal because we can't stop all of it. Lots of debunked myths here. That you're equating the ownership of a tool used for self-preservation with raping or murdering people shows how unbelievably unequipped you are to tackle this debate. Not really my comparison as it is one of the popular things 2A people like to say. They will point at certain drugs being illegal and murder and rape being illegal but that people still do it. So I just used the same logic (or lack thereof) in saying that since if we can't fully stop it we shouldn't even try, which seems to be the excuse a lot of 2A people like have. I also won't argue myths with someone that gets his "facts" from infowars as I have seen in the past as one of your favorite site to point to. My great uncle has a gun shop that sells at gun shows and I have worked some in the past and still will go when in town and my parents help him just to visit. My whole family was raised on guns, my parents have 3 fully loaded guns safe from generations of buying them and collecting. So I think have little more knowledge on the subect then most. I have seen people buy guns that shouldn't be able to buy them because they have no clue on how to use them. I have seen people selling guns in the parking lot because someone else could buy it inside. When you see bumper stickers and shirts that read "Heavily armed and Easily pissed" you realize some people shouldn't be able to own a gun.
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Post by k5 on Oct 6, 2017 13:23:22 GMT -5
honestly, if you can’t comprehend the difference in necessity to providing someone a safe route to end pregnancy to semi automatic guns that were designed to murder people, then there’s no use having a discussion here. cold blooded murderers who use weapons you place in the same category as people who are having to make a massive life choice, often out of poverty or lack of education, and would never intentionally kill a person. notice how abortion is legal? notice how shooting someone isn’t? the law and society has already come to certain realizations that clearly you haven’t. I don't blame gun crimes on guns. I blame the crime on the person who commits it. You're as wishy washy as every other anti-gun person. Do you blame guns or blame the criminal? There's hundreds of products on the market that can take a life or even multiple lives. If you drink Drano it will probably kill you. If you don't drink it, it just sits there in the bottle. If you take a gun and shoot a person they will likely die. If you don't take it and shoot someone, the gun will rest where it lies. I'm of the realization that human beings murder human beings. There's thousands of ways of doing so. You can have every gun law there is but it won't fix rage, obsession, mental disorders, depression, delusion, etc. Murder is as old as human existence. It doesn't matter the weapon of choice, but the choice of the human committing the murder. All I take from this is you're okay with a human murdering an innocent unborn but you're against guns. Did you know if you kill a pregnant woman they charge you with double homicide? Wake up dude.Guns are meant for protection. Don't put millions at risk because of a few thousand lunatics. Criminals WILL NOT follow gun laws. It's idiotic and unjust to take an American RIGHT away from Americans because of criminals. And I read you're from Canada? Just enjoy your laws and way of living and quit trying to tell Americans what their laws should be. when Canada has outdated gun laws and 88 guns to every 100 persons, let me know. if we had a mass shooting anything like what happened in Vegas, I would be more than open eared to what the rest of the world had to say on it. there are more people in Toronto than Chicago...look at the gun death rates. look at the overall murder rates. if you don’t think having guns makes murdering people far easier, show me the drive by knifing counts, the overall murder from gunfire vs other weapons counts, and all the other clear examples of why having a gun obsessed country is why you your country has a problem with guns. which makes sense to every other country than Yemen, a civil war torn country, which STILL fails to have the amount of guns per person as the u.s. when 9/11 happened, no one said ban airplanes. no one debated if planes were weapons or not. but it was understood that airplanes needed to be far more heavily secured, that we had to overview who was being trained to fly more in-depth, and that we had to be aware of the danger that not being prepared securely would create.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 6, 2017 13:47:39 GMT -5
I don't blame gun crimes on guns. I blame the crime on the person who commits it. You're as wishy washy as every other anti-gun person. Do you blame guns or blame the criminal? There's hundreds of products on the market that can take a life or even multiple lives. If you drink Drano it will probably kill you. If you don't drink it, it just sits there in the bottle. If you take a gun and shoot a person they will likely die. If you don't take it and shoot someone, the gun will rest where it lies. I'm of the realization that human beings murder human beings. There's thousands of ways of doing so. You can have every gun law there is but it won't fix rage, obsession, mental disorders, depression, delusion, etc. Murder is as old as human existence. It doesn't matter the weapon of choice, but the choice of the human committing the murder. All I take from this is you're okay with a human murdering an innocent unborn but you're against guns. Did you know if you kill a pregnant woman they charge you with double homicide? Wake up dude.Guns are meant for protection. Don't put millions at risk because of a few thousand lunatics. Criminals WILL NOT follow gun laws. It's idiotic and unjust to take an American RIGHT away from Americans because of criminals. And I read you're from Canada? Just enjoy your laws and way of living and quit trying to tell Americans what their laws should be. when Canada has outdated gun laws and 88 guns to every 100 persons, let me know. if we had a mass shooting anything like what happened in Vegas, I would be more than open eared to what the rest of the world had to say on it. there are more people in Toronto than Chicago...look at the gun death rates. look at the overall murder rates. if you don’t think having guns makes murdering people far easier, show me the drive by knifing counts, the overall murder from gunfire vs other weapons counts, and all the other clear examples of why having a gun obsessed country is why you your country has a problem with guns. which makes sense to every other country than Yemen, a civil war torn country, which STILL fails to have the amount of guns per person as the u.s. when 9/11 happened, no one said ban airplanes. no one debated if planes were weapons or not. but it was understood that airplanes needed to be far more heavily secured, that we had to overview who was being trained to fly more in-depth, and that we had to be aware of the danger that not being prepared securely would create. The Amendment is in place to secure the ability of the American people to defend themselves against the Government. Government agencies have much more powerful firearms than any regular citizen. The Amendment should never be altered solely for the reason that it was created for. Plain and simple. 300 million Americans shouldn't give up their American right because of criminal activity with guns. Good hearted, innocent American gun owners vastly outweigh the criminal population that uses guns for violence and crime. Privacy has been intruded by the Govt since 9/11. Anyone who says otherwise is oblivious. If Americans lose their right to defend themselves against the government, then America will fall. LITERALLY THE REASON FOR THE AMENDMENT'S EXISTENCE.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 14:16:14 GMT -5
Sweden has become a cesspool of crime. It's barely a country anymore. In fact, none of these countries are even socialist. Denmark isn't even a socialist country, it has a free market economy. Ergo, not socialist. Socialism and 'social democracy' are not one and the same. You're conflating them. Socialism is an economic system in which the government owns means of production. See Venezuela, Cuba, China. I haven't said anything about abortion so I have no idea what the hell you're on about. Lots of debunked myths here. That you're equating the ownership of a tool used for self-preservation with raping or murdering people shows how unbelievably unequipped you are to tackle this debate. Not really my comparison as it is one of the popular things 2A people like to say. They will point at certain drugs being illegal and murder and rape being illegal but that people still do it. So I just used the same logic (or lack thereof) in saying that since if we can't fully stop it we shouldn't even try, which seems to be the excuse a lot of 2A people like have. I also won't argue myths with someone that gets his "facts" from infowars as I have seen in the past as one of your favorite site to point to. My great uncle has a gun shop that sells at gun shows and I have worked some in the past and still will go when in town and my parents help him just to visit. My whole family was raised on guns, my parents have 3 fully loaded guns safe from generations of buying them and collecting. So I think have little more knowledge on the subect then most. I have seen people buy guns that shouldn't be able to buy them because they have no clue on how to use them. I have seen people selling guns in the parking lot because someone else could buy it inside. When you see bumper stickers and shirts that read "Heavily armed and Easily pissed" you realize some people shouldn't be able to own a gun. I view a variety of media outlets, unless they outright engage in collusion with political parties like CNN, NYT or MSNBC. I then draw my own conclusions after reading all sides. I may have used Paul Joseph Watson as a source before, but conflating that with me being some avid Alex Jones nut, yeah no thanks mate. You've perpetuated debunked gun myths, I'd suggest reading up about them. Look at youtube, people like Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder, among others have debunked those. Your anecdotal evidence is of no consequence.
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Post by k5 on Oct 6, 2017 15:25:33 GMT -5
when Canada has outdated gun laws and 88 guns to every 100 persons, let me know. if we had a mass shooting anything like what happened in Vegas, I would be more than open eared to what the rest of the world had to say on it. there are more people in Toronto than Chicago...look at the gun death rates. look at the overall murder rates. if you don’t think having guns makes murdering people far easier, show me the drive by knifing counts, the overall murder from gunfire vs other weapons counts, and all the other clear examples of why having a gun obsessed country is why you your country has a problem with guns. which makes sense to every other country than Yemen, a civil war torn country, which STILL fails to have the amount of guns per person as the u.s. when 9/11 happened, no one said ban airplanes. no one debated if planes were weapons or not. but it was understood that airplanes needed to be far more heavily secured, that we had to overview who was being trained to fly more in-depth, and that we had to be aware of the danger that not being prepared securely would create. The Amendment is in place to secure the ability of the American people to defend themselves against the Government. Government agencies have much more powerful firearms than any regular citizen. The Amendment should never be altered solely for the reason that it was created for. Plain and simple. 300 million Americans shouldn't give up their American right because of criminal activity with guns. Good hearted, innocent American gun owners vastly outweigh the criminal population that uses guns for violence and crime. Privacy has been intruded by the Govt since 9/11. Anyone who says otherwise is oblivious. If Americans lose their right to defend themselves against the government, then America will fall. LITERALLY THE REASON FOR THE AMENDMENT'S EXISTENCE. in all fairness, do you believe that armed citizens stand a chance against an organized government attack with today’s technologies? Canada still has guns. and we still have a small gun problem. and people are still making guns illegally and importing them as well. but the numbers show that gun control has successfully reduced the amount of gun deaths. it’s not uncommon in the USA to hear of toddlers obtaining hand guns and shooting their parents, fellow students, etc. stricter gun laws would lessen this likelihood - in Canada hand guns have to be locked away at all times or the owner is criminally negligent.
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Post by bad guy™ on Oct 6, 2017 15:43:48 GMT -5
Well this thread has gone to crap. What a surprise. Sad, really.
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