ashestoembers
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 4, 2017 11:00:22 GMT -5
Hey Everyone,
I don't know if it is just me, but I have noticed over the last few years that prices for wrestler autograph's at signings have continued to increase, especially for active and on screen talent. I would never be one to complain about paying a price to get a good autograph, however I do feel that the quality of autographs has decreased with time as well.
I remember when I was much younger I had the pleasure of meeting some top talent such as Bret Hart, Bob Backlund, Sunny, Undertaker and Hulk Hogan. All of these listed stars, and many more have very distinct and appealing to look at signatures.
Some of the more recent talent over the years such as Seth Rollins, AJ Lee, Roman Reigns, and Dean Ambrose just to name a few have in my opinion very bland signatures. I understand that the amount of fans at each signing has significantly increased over the years, But most of these listed stars charge a good amount of money to get a signature from. I just can't justify spending 80-100 bucks each to get a signature that is just their initials or chicken scratch.
Just my opinion, I'm curious to hear all of your opinions as well!
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Post by hbklique1 on Oct 4, 2017 12:25:02 GMT -5
I'm thinking it's a WWE request to have them short hand their signatures as I bought a signed NXT poster last year where everyone had full signatures to this years poster had initials from everyone.
I'm in agreement where I can't justify spending $80-100 on two letters. While I do t expect a Bruno or undertaker like signature, they can do a scribble like Daniel Bryan does.
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Post by bababooey on Oct 4, 2017 14:24:32 GMT -5
I always looked at it as I'm paying for the experience of meeting the person. The autograph is kinda like a receipt to me or something that triggers the memory of the experience.
I don't even really understand why someone would buy a presigned item. They're basically just paying for someone to write their name on something.
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Post by Mox on Oct 4, 2017 14:42:15 GMT -5
In some cases it's laziness. Just wanting to sign things fast. But for others it's a lack of writing ability. I'd be scared to see Roman or Dean's handwriting. Dean's is the worst, but Roman's is just so weird. It's really forced and unnatural.
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 4, 2017 15:05:44 GMT -5
I agree. Deans autograph is literally an uppercase DA and then he charges you 70 bucks for it lol
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Oct 4, 2017 15:13:49 GMT -5
I've commented on this before. I think back in the day, the stars had more time to perfect their craft. So they would go into more depth with their characters. Now guys jump on a plane and go. Where as before the wrestlers would spend countless hours in cars driving from town to town.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Oct 4, 2017 16:16:16 GMT -5
It's because autographs have increasingly popular over the years. More and more people want them so they sign more and more. Look all across the board. Football autographs are garbage too. They wanna be able to sign as many as they can using as little energy as possible. You ever see that video of John Cena signings 1000s of photos for live events? Imagine how long it would take him to sign his entire name.
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Oct 4, 2017 16:25:13 GMT -5
Rather than me making a whole new thread, would anyone know how I would authenticate an Autograph? I got it signed when I met AJ Styles two years ago but I have no proof that it's his other than me being there
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Post by Vamp55 on Oct 4, 2017 16:45:01 GMT -5
Rather than me making a whole new thread, would anyone know how I would authenticate an Autograph? I got it signed when I met AJ Styles two years ago but I have no proof that it's his other than me being there It will cost u money. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 4, 2017 17:16:13 GMT -5
It's because autographs have increasingly popular over the years. More and more people want them so they sign more and more. Look all across the board. Football autographs are garbage too. They wanna be able to sign as many as they can using as little energy as possible. You ever see that video of John Cena signings 1000s of photos for live events? Imagine how long it would take him to sign his entire name. Exactly. It just takes too long, so not just WWE Stars, but celebs and pro athletes find ways to shorten their autos so they can sign more and do them faster. Is it cool when you get a nice autograph that has many marker strokes and clear letters...sure. In fact, I just got a REALLY nice Michael Weatherly last night on a Bull 11x14. But I get short hand Rollins and thats fine by me. As long as it is the guy's auto and its the virtually the same everytime....I good with that. I dont buy into "quality of the auto". Someone's autograph is their autograph. One can look nicer...but I dont see that adding to its quality. I have original Cena autos...long before he shortened his graph. Not sure I would say they are of better quality. They just look VERY different. Someone like Steve Austin is interesting. You can get virtually a dozen different variations of his autograph. From full "Stone Cold Steve Austin Whoop Ass! Give Me A Hell Yeah! Austin 3:16" down to just Austin 3:16. |
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Post by bababooey on Oct 4, 2017 19:18:23 GMT -5
It's because autographs have increasingly popular over the years. More and more people want them so they sign more and more. Look all across the board. Football autographs are garbage too. They wanna be able to sign as many as they can using as little energy as possible. You ever see that video of John Cena signings 1000s of photos for live events? Imagine how long it would take him to sign his entire name. Exactly. It just takes too long, so not just WWE Stars, but celebs and pro athletes find ways to shorten their autos so they can sign more and do them faster. Is it cool when you get a nice autograph that has many marker strokes and clear letters...sure. In fact, I just got a REALLY nice Michael Weatherly last night on a Bull 11x14. But I get short hand Rollins and thats fine by me. As long as it is the guy's auto and its the virtually the same everytime....I good with that. I dont buy into "quality of the auto". Someone's autograph is their autograph. One can look nicer...but I dont see that adding to its quality. I have original Cena autos...long before he shortened his graph. Not sure I would say they are of better quality. They just look VERY different. Someone like Steve Austin is interesting. You can get virtually a dozen different variations of his autograph. From full "Stone Cold Steve Austin Whoop Ass! Give Me A Hell Yeah! Austin 3:16" down to just Austin 3:16. A few years ago at Ringside Fest I got the VIP tickets and had 2 autographs with each person appearing. Sin Cara gave me 2 totally different autographs. On one he just wrote "Sin Cara". On the other he wrote "Sin Cara" then drew a wing and in the wing he wrote "Mexico". |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 4, 2017 20:05:36 GMT -5
Never understood the appeal for autographs to be honest. Bit of ink with someones name doesnt do it for me.
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Post by BØRNS on Oct 4, 2017 23:00:49 GMT -5
As mentioned, we have a whole 400+ page thread over this stuff. Yes autos are sucking more than ever, what else is new? Hey gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrl!!!!!!
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 4, 2017 23:35:58 GMT -5
Exactly. It just takes too long, so not just WWE Stars, but celebs and pro athletes find ways to shorten their autos so they can sign more and do them faster. Is it cool when you get a nice autograph that has many marker strokes and clear letters...sure. In fact, I just got a REALLY nice Michael Weatherly last night on a Bull 11x14. But I get short hand Rollins and thats fine by me. As long as it is the guy's auto and its the virtually the same everytime....I good with that. I dont buy into "quality of the auto". Someone's autograph is their autograph. One can look nicer...but I dont see that adding to its quality. I have original Cena autos...long before he shortened his graph. Not sure I would say they are of better quality. They just look VERY different. Someone like Steve Austin is interesting. You can get virtually a dozen different variations of his autograph. From full "Stone Cold Steve Austin Whoop Ass! Give Me A Hell Yeah! Austin 3:16" down to just Austin 3:16. A few years ago at Ringside Fest I got the VIP tickets and had 2 autographs with each person appearing. Sin Cara gave me 2 totally different autographs. On one he just wrote "Sin Cara". On the other he wrote "Sin Cara" then drew a wing and in the wing he wrote "Mexico". There was a time while Flair was still in TNA...he would sign WWE stuff...Nature Boy Ric Flair 16X. WHHOOOOOO!! But if it was anything other than WWE....you got Ric Flair 16X. I dont know what prompts people to sign things differently. |
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Post by BØRNS on Oct 5, 2017 2:02:18 GMT -5
Never understood the appeal for autographs to be honest. Bit of ink with someones name doesnt do it for me. There's something inherent to the autograph that makes it special. Some people really love them, some don't see the point. I like collecting them, I live the diversity of them and the literal signature they represent (uniqueness). They're also timeless, especially if wrestlers are deceased. Idk, just cool to have a "piece" of your idols wherever your collection may be. |
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 5, 2017 15:39:04 GMT -5
I understand that wrestlers need to "speed up" their autographs. But if that's the case the prices should be lowered as well. To have the quality of the signature decrease and the price increase is ridiculous.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 5, 2017 17:17:09 GMT -5
I understand that wrestlers need to "speed up" their autographs. But if that's the case the prices should be lowered as well. To have the quality of the signature decrease and the price increase is ridiculous. MOST of those who are changing their autos to speed things up....dont benefit financially from doing more autos. They are contracted for X time through the office and thats that. When time is up...they are up. |
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Post by ashestoembers on Oct 5, 2017 17:25:51 GMT -5
I understand that wrestlers need to "speed up" their autographs. But if that's the case the prices should be lowered as well. To have the quality of the signature decrease and the price increase is ridiculous. MOST of those who are changing their autos to speed things up....dont benefit financially from doing more autos. They are contracted for X time through the office and thats that. When time is up...they are up. I completely get it. But at the end of the day its the fans that get the short end of the deal. These signings are a known part of the athletes jobs in the contracts they agree to and sign. I dint mean to beat a dead horse but if guys like Shawn Michaels , Triple H, and Undertaker can still go out and give the same high quality autograph to thousands of fans in a single signing then so can guys like dean ambrose, Seth rollins, roman reigns and others should be able to do it as well. Especially since the turnout for guys like the legends I mentioned earlier is much higher then some of the active stars today. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 5, 2017 18:52:24 GMT -5
I agree on the autographs being bland, I wouldn't pay anything to get Dean Ambrose autograph cuz it's bland just like him.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 5, 2017 23:55:19 GMT -5
MOST of those who are changing their autos to speed things up....dont benefit financially from doing more autos. They are contracted for X time through the office and thats that. When time is up...they are up. I completely get it. But at the end of the day its the fans that get the short end of the deal. These signings are a known part of the athletes jobs in the contracts they agree to and sign. I dint mean to beat a dead horse but if guys like Shawn Michaels , Triple H, and Undertaker can still go out and give the same high quality autograph to thousands of fans in a single signing then so can guys like dean ambrose, Seth rollins, roman reigns and others should be able to do it as well. Especially since the turnout for guys like the legends I mentioned earlier is much higher then some of the active stars today. Ypu dont consider HHH autos to be bland. Its 3 letters. He does add The Game most of the time, which is nice I guess. |
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