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Post by tg11 on Oct 4, 2017 14:28:32 GMT -5
I am still confused on whether or not Enzo is a babyface or a heel. If he is a heel he is a heel who is getting cheered by the crowd regardless and his merchandise is still flying off the shelves. Not to mention his popularity is still through the roof but yet he is a heel in the Cruiserweight division but yet gets babyface like reactions every time he walks through that curtain. He is also the WWE Cruiserweight Champion and ever since he won the title it is like he is getting more cocky. Definitely more arrogant in his character as far as him running down the whole division with his insults which was nothing short of funny as hell and yet through that tirade towards his fellow Cruiserweights he was getting cheered. However, he uses heelish tactics like introducing clauses which states that none of the Cruiserweights can challenge him for that title as long as he is the champion and that whoever touches him is fired which is something only a heel would do.
Which is why I wonder if WWE even knows if Enzo is babyface or heel.
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Post by xtremebadass on Oct 4, 2017 14:43:48 GMT -5
You can be a heel and have the fans still buy your merchandise, laugh at your jokes and find you entertaining.
I like Enzo because he's not a typical "YOU PEOPLE..." type heel. He leaves the crowd out of it, at least from what I've seen.
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Post by IRS on Oct 4, 2017 14:46:46 GMT -5
It's blatantly obvious that he's a heel.
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Post by tg11 on Oct 4, 2017 14:53:26 GMT -5
Yeah a heel who is getting babyface like reactions still regardless especially because of his charisma and not to mention he is still popular despite all the heat he has backstage
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Post by IRS on Oct 4, 2017 15:03:43 GMT -5
Yeah a heel who is getting babyface like reactions still regardless especially because of his charisma and not to mention he is still popular despite all the heat he has backstage Yeah, it's not like popular heels get cheered all the time or anything. Fan reaction doesn't solely dictate whether someone is a face or a heel. The character's actions do. Enzo's actions are clearly indicative of a heel.
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Post by tg11 on Oct 4, 2017 15:07:45 GMT -5
Yeah you may be right that his actions indicate him to be a heel but yet the crowd has not turned on him. Well some of them might have but most of them are still in Enzo's corner despite everything.
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Post by A-Rob on Oct 4, 2017 15:40:47 GMT -5
He's a heel.
/end thread.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Oct 4, 2017 15:42:17 GMT -5
He’s a heel. I didn’t know anyone was doubting it at this point.
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Post by rkmo: 10 Month Notice on Oct 4, 2017 16:01:43 GMT -5
Ever since he entered the CW Division, he was grating on the others' nerves with his mouth and cheating to win matches (blatantly so, not like Eddie's old Lie-Cheat-Steal fashion). They are definitely booking him as heel. Crowd reactions are irrelevant in these circumstances.
Remember, their "top faces" have been regularly booed for the past decade.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 4, 2017 16:13:46 GMT -5
Why you gotta put labels on it man?
Seriously though, he's a full fledged heel. And IMO it's been great. He's a very annoying, yet very effective heel. I like him and want to watch him. Bit I also can't wait for him to get his comeuppance ASAP. He's also a much better heel than Cass was.
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Post by wolfpac on Oct 4, 2017 18:38:28 GMT -5
I think the real problem is WWE keeps trying to get away from having full fledged heels and faces, then it creates these type of situations. Fans should never be confused on if someone is a heel or a face.
He is a heel but the fans still like him.
To me he's hasn't totally turned just yet, I think if they don't get cold feet turning him, he should become a totally turned heel in a few weeks to a month.
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Post by IRS on Oct 4, 2017 18:45:28 GMT -5
I don't get the argument that the fans haven't turned on him either. He was clearly booed on 205 Live two weeks ago. Last week, they were chanting "YOU DESERVE IT" at him after he brought up the beating from RAW. He is undeniably a heel.
... Maybe this is why WWE thinks we need to be spoon-fed everything.
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Post by RV F'N D on Oct 4, 2017 18:49:02 GMT -5
I just wish he could get some actual offense in, at any point.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 4, 2017 19:09:17 GMT -5
He's heel however he's one of the most entertaining guys on the raw roster, so people still cheer him and join in on his catchphrases.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 5, 2017 3:42:25 GMT -5
Heel and baby face has never been about crowd reaction. If you cheat, lie, and do generally bad things you are heel, regardless of crowd reaction. If you stand up for what’s right, do good, and win cleanly you are face.
There is a blurred line right now with some guys.
Reigns, heelish attitude, but ultimately face, regardless of boos.
Enzo, heelish attitude, ultimately heel, regardless of cheers.
It’s never really been like how it is presently but at the end of day you can see who is what. There’s not a question that Enzo is heel, or Reigns is face even though they get the opposite of expected reactions.
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Post by bigshab421 on Oct 5, 2017 6:59:10 GMT -5
The problem with turning him heel as a cruiserweight, is that there s not one single babyface cruiserweight that people care about. The result will be people continuing to cheer Enzo, no matter what they do with him.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Oct 5, 2017 12:30:34 GMT -5
Heel.
It's pretty amusing that they turn him heel after the "fan backlash", yet refuse to do so with Cena or Reigns.
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Post by MacReady on Oct 5, 2017 12:46:51 GMT -5
I just don't get why you ask a question and then proceed to ANSWER IT YOURSELF in another reply.
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Post by Valbroski on Oct 5, 2017 13:21:27 GMT -5
Heel. It's pretty amusing that they turn him heel after the "fan backlash", yet refuse to do so with Cena or Reigns. It's a safer risk.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Oct 5, 2017 14:25:41 GMT -5
I just don't get why you ask a question and then proceed to ANSWER IT YOURSELF in another reply. Classic tg11.
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