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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Oct 5, 2017 14:57:40 GMT -5
Heel. It's pretty amusing that they turn him heel after the "fan backlash", yet refuse to do so with Cena or Reigns. It's a safer risk. True. I just wish WWE took more risks. I mean Vince never had the balls to turn Hogan heel, that was WCW. Soon as he was back it was what....a month until he was full blown face again?
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Post by Valbroski on Oct 5, 2017 20:37:20 GMT -5
True. I just wish WWE took more risks. I mean Vince never had the balls to turn Hogan heel, that was WCW. Soon as he was back it was what....a month until he was full blown face again? wasn't that face turn influenced by crowd feedback? I could be wrong, I was really young when that angle happened.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Oct 6, 2017 2:17:53 GMT -5
True. I just wish WWE took more risks. I mean Vince never had the balls to turn Hogan heel, that was WCW. Soon as he was back it was what....a month until he was full blown face again? wasn't that face turn influenced by crowd feedback? I could be wrong, I was really young when that angle happened. Yeah, the WCW crowd weren't too hot on him after a while. Same could be said for the WWF crowd towards end of his first run.
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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 6, 2017 6:57:30 GMT -5
I thinks he a heel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 7:42:45 GMT -5
I just don't get why you ask a question and then proceed to ANSWER IT YOURSELF in another reply.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 6, 2017 8:59:22 GMT -5
I'm confused is Kevin Owens a heel? If he's a heel he gets cheered and his merchandise flies off the shelf.
I'm confused is Brock Lesnar a heel? If he's a heel he gets cheered and his merchandise flies off the shelf.
I'm confused is Brain Strowman a heel? If he's a heel he gets cheered and his merchandise flies off the shelf.
I'm confused is Alexa Bliss a heel? If she's a heel she gets cheered and her merchandise flies off the shelf.
I'm confused why you think someone getting cheered and selling merchandise matters at this point in their storytelling.
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 6, 2017 10:13:55 GMT -5
i'm more confused about Big Cass. Is he the heel still? I would assume when he comes back, and big boots Enzo, he'd be the face. But, was he the face all along and we were just feeling bad for Enzo?
I think a better question is, was Enzo the heel all along and Cass was made to look bad? Cass was saying everything that the entire CW division has said.
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Post by IRS on Oct 6, 2017 10:43:05 GMT -5
i'm more confused about Big Cass. Is he the heel still? I would assume when he comes back, and big boots Enzo, he'd be the face. But, was he the face all along and we were just feeling bad for Enzo? I think a better question is, was Enzo the heel all along and Cass was made to look bad? Cass was saying everything that the entire CW division has said. No, Cass was definitely the heel in the feud. Attacking someone from behind while pretending you're still their partner, and faking your own attack to provide an alibi are definitely heel moves. As to whether he'd be a heel when he returns... probably. Enzo is part of the cruiserweights now, so they have no reason to interact again, unless they reform the team. Plus, he's way too ing bland to be any kind of credible face - not that his heel work is that much better.
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Post by King of Kings on Oct 6, 2017 10:53:53 GMT -5
It's contextual. If you're a fan of 205 Live and the cruiserweights then he's a heel. If you're in the boat that thinks the cruiserweights are useless and aren't utilized properly then he's a face telling the truth
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Post by robbutler01 on Oct 6, 2017 12:46:56 GMT -5
Id say heel too, no question Funny how much flack he gets but the cruiserweight have more spotlight at the moment than before. Shame though as Neville kills it in the ring but just didn't click and get the focus for the division
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Post by mutafan on Oct 6, 2017 13:55:25 GMT -5
i would say he is a ASS
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Oct 6, 2017 15:40:11 GMT -5
Ah, yes... but is he a BIG ASS?
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Post by marino13 on Oct 7, 2017 8:32:52 GMT -5
I mentioned in another thread, when Cass is healthy I would love for them to reunite him with Enzo in some form. The story could be that Cass sees that Enzo finally has that killer instinct it takes to win. Then they could go one of two ways with it...
1) Reunite and go after the top face tag team. Cheat and finally win tag titles. Enzo/Cass vs New Day could be good. They could also include Carmella if they want since they're all heels currently.
2) Reunite but still focus on their singles run. Enzo can distract opponents for Cass while being a mouthpiece. And Cass can destroy cruiserweights for Enzo. Enzo can run his mouth more than ever if he has Big Cass standing between him and his opponents.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 7, 2017 12:29:12 GMT -5
He's a heel.
It's his punishment for being a dick backstage: they're taking away his merchandise appeal.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 7, 2017 12:30:26 GMT -5
I mentioned in another thread, when Cass is healthy I would love for them to reunite him with Enzo in some form. The story could be that Cass sees that Enzo finally has that killer instinct it takes to win. Then they could go one of two ways with it... 1) Reunite and go after the top face tag team. Cheat and finally win tag titles. Enzo/Cass vs New Day could be good. They could also include Carmella if they want since they're all heels currently. 2) Reunite but still focus on their singles run. Enzo can distract opponents for Cass while being a mouthpiece. And Cass can destroy cruiserweights for Enzo. Enzo can run his mouth more than ever if he has Big Cass standing between him and his opponents. I'll take option two.
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Post by King of Kings on Oct 7, 2017 16:37:43 GMT -5
He's a heel. It's his punishment for being a dick backstage: they're taking away his merchandise appeal. I don't buy the whole "It's his punishment for being a dick" bullcrap, because if 'they' were really upset with him, they wouldn't have slapped the Cruiserweight title on him
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 8, 2017 6:21:13 GMT -5
He's a heel. It's his punishment for being a dick backstage: they're taking away his merchandise appeal. Heels stilll sell merchandise and this turn has been the making of him so if anything he will sell more merch than ever before.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 8, 2017 9:24:47 GMT -5
cmon he's a smack talka, sky walka....he tells us that every week.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Oct 11, 2017 14:22:43 GMT -5
Meh face or heel, he's annoying. But that's just my two cents and that and 73 more couldn't get you a cup of coffee anymore.
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