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Post by tylerbreezee on Oct 14, 2017 15:56:40 GMT -5
Hassan was good though ?? You're comparing Gucci to Wal Mart right now. Wrestling is subjective my friend. This is where I saw Hassan going. Its almost like a franchise reboot with a new cast. I'm just confussed that all the "Don't Hinder Jinder" fans flipped the bandwagon and burned it. That stuff was a joke lol they most likely didn't care about him
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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 14, 2017 16:06:04 GMT -5
Mahal is boring to watch and Lesnar is freaking lazy when it comes to preforming matches. I won't be paying to see this PPV, I was hoping WWE would do 5v5 again because last year was awesome.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 14, 2017 20:10:43 GMT -5
It is kind of funny they are gonna waste a Lesnar match on Jinder, especially when neither title is on the line.
It's not even the fact that Jinder is hated, or to some has made a really bad WWE Champion, but more so that neither man is going to gain anything out of this, but lose plenty.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Oct 14, 2017 20:16:50 GMT -5
Terrible
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Post by Quazimoto on Oct 14, 2017 20:52:39 GMT -5
Am I the only one that has enjoyed Mahal's run??? Its like the second coming of Hassan. The chapter he never had. WWE Champion! Nope. I've enjoyed it for the most part. Didn't care much for the two Nakamura matches, largely because both Jinder Mahal and Nakamura are the type that really need a top quality performer to put on a top quality match. I did really like the first two title matches against Orton. Even the Punjabi Prison was good for a Punjabi Prison match (that particular math types is just doomed to failure/dullness). I wish they would have built Mahal up a bit before thrusting him into the title scene, but I genuinely think he's been doing pretty well with it all things considered. I honestly think that most the people who crap all over Mahal's reign as champion are folks who can't see past the fact that he went from jobber to champion in record time and has been saddled with the typical evil foreigner character. That's not an insult to fans who haven't enjoyed his run. Every fan has had moments like that, myself included. And yeah, both the quick climb to the top of the card and terribly generic gimmick suck, but IMO, Jinder Mahal's been doing a good job considering the crap he's been given to work with. I, for one, hope the match with Lesnar does happen and that Jinder Mahal beats him. Sure, there'd obviously have to be a ton of shenanigans for that to happen, but I think it'd be awesome for Jinder Mahal to has a victory over Brock Lesnar. Isn't this right before their tour of India? Ladies and gentlemen the man who conquered the beast Juicy Jinder Mahal.
So to be clear. There are seemingly more Fans are ok with the juice being shoved down our throats but cant stand Roman. . Not sure how this is the case anymore. There's a big difference there. Jinder Mahal has been booked as a champion that clearly doesn't deserve to be champion. In typical heel fashion, he's had help gaining and retaining the title every time. And most people seem to at least recognize that he's put in a lot of years as a forgettable part of the show, got released and used it as motivation to get better and get back. He's really just a guy who's busted is ass and happened to be in the right place at the right time and will ride that wave as long as he can. He's kind of a feel good story in some ways. Roman Reigns has been booked like the be all, end all, supreme God of all things wrestling despite the fact that he has about five moves total in his repertoire. He's been hand-picked based mostly on image and basically handed a golden ticket without having to buy any Wonka bars. What's more, there have been multiple instances where WWE has seemingly gone out of their way to show us that Roman Reigns and whatever he's doing is more important than the WWE or Universal Championship. WWE fans don't hate Roman Reigns, they hate how he's portrayed. They hate the Superman booking. They hate that fact that he's not a great wrestling or character, but has headlined multiple WrestleManias (and will undoubtedly headline the next one barring major injury). And they hate the fact that WWE is so locked into manufacturing Roman Reigns as the greatest WWE Superstar of all time that it's holding back far more deserving and far more talented wrestlers from having any real chance in the main event scene.
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Post by Dan on Oct 15, 2017 15:58:37 GMT -5
This literally makes no sense to me even from a booking standpoint. Why diminish one of your Champion's by having them needlessly lose to the other? It just prioritises one Belt over the other too. There's no point in saying we could have had Brock Lesnar vs Shinsuke Nakamura etc, all that would do is damage Nakamura's credibility had he just become WWE Champion, and they would never have the fans rally behind Nakamura to beat Lesnar when it's clearly going to all go on Reigns. It's the same reason they won't touch Brock Lesnar vs Finn Balor, in the case that it becomes another Daniel Bryan situation, and god help them that the fans push for somebody other than Reigns and undo or there desperate attempts to get Reigns over as their top babyface.
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Post by xtremebadass on Oct 15, 2017 16:51:39 GMT -5
Brock has to beat Jinder so when Roman beats Lesnar it is Roman beating the guy who also beat the WWE champion.
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Post by Yayo on Oct 15, 2017 17:56:53 GMT -5
I don't think it's as nonsensical as people are making it out to be. Jinder is the WWE champion, and he's one of the longer reigning ones we've had in awhile. He's beaten Orton and Nakamura plenty of times, so in kayfabe, whether by hook or crook, he's pretty legitimized. Brock is obviously going to beat him, but so what? Brock beats everybody. Would you guys rather see this, or see him beat Styles, Owens or Nakamura in the SAME DAMN MATCH he just had with Braun and Joe?
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Post by BOOKER_T on Oct 15, 2017 18:16:01 GMT -5
It's going to be awesome watching everyone lose their mind when the MODERN DAY MAHARAJAH wins at Survivor Series. Meanwhile, me and BOOKER_T just showing up in the thread like..
Dont forget Rated R Ninja 😂
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Post by J12 on Oct 16, 2017 10:43:18 GMT -5
This is a miserable idea, for a number of reasons.
The match will be bad, because Lesnar doesn't care and Mahal isn't a good worker.
It can't be a total squash (which it should be), because they have to make the WWE Champion seem like a credible opponent to Brock Lesnar (even though he isn't.) That means Jinder Mahal has to get in offense on Brock Lesnar, which, lol.
Honestly, this doesn't even have enough gravitas to be a house show date for Brock where he squashes Mahal in thirty seconds.
With that being said, it's blatantly obvious how this is likely to go:
Mahal gets a couple shots in on Lesnar, Brock hits a number of German Suplexes. He looks poised to hit the F5, the Singh Brothers hit the ring and attack Brock. Brock wins by DQ. Jinder runs away, Lesnar kills the Singh Brothers. Whole segment is wrapped up in under 8 minutes.
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Post by robbutler01 on Oct 16, 2017 10:53:34 GMT -5
Thinking about it would Vince survive seeing both his favourite jakked monsters in the ring at once? Lol
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 16, 2017 10:57:15 GMT -5
That sucks, they removed Cena and added Lesnar to Survivor Series. I was hoping they'd finally do Undertaker/Cena and Taker could win and retire on a good note, but I guess they're really just going to leave it with him getting steamrolled by Roman Reigns.
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Post by mutafan on Oct 16, 2017 12:20:58 GMT -5
I have heard its lesnar vs mahal talk about a boring ass match. no titles on the line.if this is true another crappy pay per view again.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Oct 16, 2017 13:46:42 GMT -5
I get why people are upset but it's like everyone bitches when Brock doesn't wrestle and now there's a report that he'll wrestle and people still bitch about it.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Oct 19, 2017 8:51:00 GMT -5
The Championship Unification match is my favorite match stipulation. With that said, I don’t mind seeing the WWE Universal Champion vs. the WWE World Champion in a non-Title main event. Champion vs. Champion matches, regardless of whom the Champions are at any given time, always made the match feel extra special to me. This would be my card, if I were to book Survivor Series with this main event.
Kickoff Show Cruiserweight Champion, Kalisto vs. United Kingdom Champion, Pete Dunne
Traditional Survivor Series Elimination match Team Raw – Mickie James, Asuka, Sasha Banks, Emma, and Alicia Fox vs. Team Smackdown – Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch, Carmella, Naomi, and Tamina
Raw Women’s Champion, Alexa Bliss vs. Smackdown Women’s Champion, Natalya
Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team match Team Raw – The Bar, The Hardy Boyz, The Club, The Revival, and Rhyno and Heath Slater vs. Team Smackdown – The New Day, The Hype Bros, The Bludgeon Brothers, Shelton Benjamin and Chad Gable, and Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn
Raw Tag Team Champions, The Shield (Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose) vs. Smackdown Tag Team Champions, The Usos (Jey and Jimmy)
WWE Intercontinental Champion, The Miz vs. WWE United States Champion, Baron Corbin
Traditional Survivor Series Elimination match Team Raw – Roman Reigns, Braun Strowman, Kane, Finn Balor, and Bray Wyatt vs. Team Smackdown – Shinsuke Nakamura, Bobby Roode, Dolph Ziggler, Randy Orton, and AJ Styles
WWE Universal Champion, Brock Lesnar vs. WWE World Champion, Jinder Mahal
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 19, 2017 9:15:31 GMT -5
Thinking about it would Vince survive seeing both his favourite jakked monsters in the ring at once? Lol He survived Roman, Braun, Brock, and Joe going at it, he an survive this. Me thinks adding Jinder to that pot though would create...well you've seen the gif.
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Post by weaseltv on Oct 19, 2017 17:29:25 GMT -5
It should have been Brock Lesnar vs... Neville...
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 19, 2017 18:16:38 GMT -5
-sigh- If its the last match on the card, at least there's 3 hours I could enjoy before it...........trying to see the positive to Survivor Series this year
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Post by Thought Collector on Oct 19, 2017 18:24:47 GMT -5
I get why people are upset but it's like everyone bitches when Brock doesn't wrestle and now there's a report that he'll wrestle and people still bitch about it. I just wanted to see him in a championship match where he drops the title to someone who's on the rise and part of the RAW roster every week.....Stroman or Joe would have been perfect but we know how that went. I don't care if Brock wrestles even just once a year so long as he isn't holding the title hostage. But I get the whole Roman endgame that are after and nothing can be done about it.
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Post by weaseltv on Oct 20, 2017 18:57:13 GMT -5
I get why people are upset but it's like everyone bitches when Brock doesn't wrestle and now there's a report that he'll wrestle and people still bitch about it. I just wanted to see him in a championship match where he drops the title to someone who's on the rise and part of the RAW roster every week.....Stroman or Joe would have been perfect but we know how that went. I don't care if Brock wrestles even just once a year so long as he isn't holding the title hostage. But I get the whole Roman endgame that are after and nothing can be done about it. At least it isnt the WWE world title he's holding hostage... I mean.. at least that title still has presti.....oh.... wait...
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