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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 12:48:51 GMT -5
Is WM34 gonna be IC/Universal, Hogan/Warrior 28 years later? Reigns over Lesnar to become the holder of both straps? God, no!
And will that mean Roman Reigns will die at age 54? Because, I wish that on no one.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 22, 2017 13:42:58 GMT -5
I don't feel like the two can be compared...at all.
In 1990, both Hogan and Warrior were the two biggest stars in the company. They were both completely over with and beloved by the audience. They were two mega-faces going at it.
Whereas Roman Reigns is almost universally hated by the audience. Lesnar is not completely over either, what with his part-time status.
I don't see any comparison between the two.
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Post by drifter on Nov 22, 2017 13:47:39 GMT -5
I don't feel like the two can be compared...at all. In 1990, both Hogan and Warrior were the two biggest stars in the company. They were both completely over with and beloved by the audience. They were two mega-faces going at it. Whereas Roman Reigns is almost universally hated by the audience. Lesnar is not completely over either, what with his part-time status. I don't see any comparison between the two. Plus, those two clashing at WrestleMania, was an amazing moment, a lot of people were excited for. There wasn't a lot of people excited, the first time Lesnar and Reigns faced at WrestleMania, and I'd say there is even less looking forward to a repeat. |
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Post by Sizzle on Nov 22, 2017 13:57:17 GMT -5
Unfortunately, people aren't really excited for the match. I, for one, wouldn't mind seeing these two go at it once again. I am questioning though, if this match does happen, where do they go after it? Reigns got his big crowning moment winning the title, now what?
I will say that I am excited for this match because I feel like Lesnar and Reigns can have a nice match. Also, the title will be seen more prominently on WWE television after the match (if it happens and Reigns wins).
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Post by IRS on Nov 22, 2017 14:00:09 GMT -5
Not really. If anything, Cena/Reigns would've been that match. Brock may be booked like a monster, but he's not the face of WWE, and that's what Hogan/Warrior was built upon - passing the torch. This is just another obstacle to overcome and coronation for Roman.
Not to mention, Reigns is almost definitely dropping that title before WM. This is just something for him to do until then.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 14:04:41 GMT -5
Joe is taking that title.
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Post by k5 on Nov 22, 2017 14:18:30 GMT -5
yeah, it would’ve been cena/reigns for that comparison.
the difference is that people didn’t know who would win out of warrior/hogan.
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Post by The American Nightmare on Nov 22, 2017 16:37:50 GMT -5
Roman won't be intercontinental champion come WrestleMania. I am so frustrated it's Roman v Brock again  |
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Post by Dan on Nov 22, 2017 17:06:55 GMT -5
My feeling is that they were banking on it being Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns, with Lesnar holding both the Universal & UFC Heavyweight Championships going into Wrestlemania, with WWE's guy of course going over clean. Reigns winning the Intercontinental at this point does seem pretty random and would suggest that Universal vs Intercontinental would be what they now have planned, unless putting the strap on Roman now was purely to cement him as a Grand Slam Champion while they still can, before he ultimately goes on a never ending run as Universal Champion.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 22, 2017 17:42:09 GMT -5
No, Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior had one of the greatest buildup leading up to it and many fans were emotionally invested in it, with 2 groups arguing over who is better, Hulk Hogan or Ultimate Warrior. Reigns vs Lesnar II will have a terrible buildup with Lesnar barely showing up on TV and no fans being interested in those 2 main eventing Wrestlemania again. Hogan vs Warrior wasnt a masterpiece in the ring, but it will be better than Lesnar spamming German Suplexes and Reigns doing the same with his Superman Punch.
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Post by TheLastDude on Nov 22, 2017 17:51:59 GMT -5
Is it? No.
Does Vince want it to be? Probably.
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Post by Hurricane on Nov 22, 2017 17:58:48 GMT -5
Even though their first match was really good, the only way I’m interested in a second one is if Reigns turns heel to win.
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 22, 2017 18:33:41 GMT -5
Not in any way.
While I do have my negative opinions about Warrior. You can’t deny his popularity in 1990. Reigns is not universally loved at all, and the fact they purposely aligned him with Rollins and Ambrose to make it seem as if he’s over is completely laughable.
I’ve never seen Vince adamantly try so hard with a guy for it to just blow up in his face time after time again. Logistically you listen to the audience to see who they like and give reactions to, them you put that guy in a position to draw. Based on pure reaction, Braun Strowman should be the next guy in line. But for some reason, Reigns is. I have no idea why. He’s been a bust for the last 3 years.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 22, 2017 18:49:32 GMT -5
I would be okay with Roman Reigns holding both the IC and Universal Title at the same time.
But then again, I am a Roman Reigns fan.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Nov 22, 2017 19:36:16 GMT -5
I would be okay with Roman Reigns holding both the IC and Universal Title at the same time. But then again, I am a Roman Reigns fan. Same here. I think people overreact with the Reigns hate. It's like he stole someone's wife or something. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 22, 2017 19:48:17 GMT -5
It's a strange one. If the Internet had been around in November 1989 like it is now, and wrestling fan culture was all about hating the top babyfaces like it is now, there'd have been tons of posts crying about how the main event of WM6 should be Tito Santana vs Mr Perfect instead of Hogan vs Warrior.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Nov 22, 2017 19:55:58 GMT -5
It's a strange one. If the Internet had been around in November 1989 like it is now, and wrestling fan culture was all about hating the top babyfaces like it is now, there'd have been tons of posts crying about how the main event of WM6 should be Tito Santana vs Mr Perfect instead of Hogan vs Warrior. What "top babyfaces" do all the fans hate now? Last I checked, Braun, AJ, Ambrose, Rollins, Finn, etc. were all over just fine amongst every crowd. |
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 22, 2017 21:47:56 GMT -5
I would be okay with Roman Reigns holding both the IC and Universal Title at the same time. But then again, I am a Roman Reigns fan. Same here. I think people overreact with the Reigns hate. It's like he stole someone's wife or something. I think people overreact too. But there is a gripe to be held when the company doesn’t acknowledge that there are literally 5-6 guys who can be top babyfaces too. Who are much better than Roman Reigns, but Vince doesn’t want to give anybody else a chance. Other than Roman Reigns, what new up and comer has had the opportunity to main event Wrestlemania? Nobody. It’s ridiculous. I understand they want him to be that top tier guy they’ve been looking for, but sooner than later you have to cut your losses and accept it as a failure. I’ve never seen the amount of effort taken to get this guy over, like really, it fascinates me. If they actually made that same effort to improve the overall product, maybe they would start selling out arenas again. |
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Nov 23, 2017 0:55:53 GMT -5
It's time we focus on the good tag matches, as well as the SD titles Reigns doesn't or won't hold. It's one match for the Raw heavyweight title.
There's so much more to WWE than Reigns and going to SS on Sunday showed me that. It also showed me that not near as many people hate Reigns as it seems. Yeah, the chorus of boos is noticeable but there's a ton of folks who love him. I'm not one, but he's over and there's literally no denying that.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Nov 23, 2017 7:20:15 GMT -5
Not in any way. While I do have my negative opinions about Warrior. You can’t deny his popularity in 1990. Reigns is not universally loved at all, and the fact they purposely aligned him with Rollins and Ambrose to make it seem as if he’s over is completely laughable. I’ve never seen Vince adamantly try so hard with a guy for it to just blow up in his face time after time again. Logistically you listen to the audience to see who they like and give reactions to, them you put that guy in a position to draw. Based on pure reaction, Braun Strowman should be the next guy in line. But for some reason, Reigns is. I have no idea why. He’s been a bust for the last 3 years. I think Vince’s logic falls into pushing he who sells the most merch combined with crowd reaction, as well as being committed to being a company guy after the cameras are off. I still stand by my view that Roman is played up by announcers and booking as the second coming for the kids, and their parents who buy his merchandise. But his snarky, almost heel behavior on screen plays to the post-pubescent crowd that either view him as a heel, or embrace the culture of hating the company-backed “guy.” Hell, HHH more or less acknowledged this a year ago. Regardless of boos or cheers, when Roman walks out the crowd makes noise. A lot of noise. There is no doubt the Shield reunion garnered cheers for Roman, and it’s almost certain as a cash-grab before the inevitable split. They teased us last week on Raw. They mentioned Roman wanting a title and the crowd began to boo, but they went nuts when the IC belt was suggested, as it keeps him away from the Universal. As for Roman/Brock being compared to Hogan/Warrior, I’d say it’s like the polar opposite of that clash, except Hogan is like Brock, and rarely seen on TV, even as champ with a limited move set that the fans pop for. And Roman is the tv workhorse, like Warrior. After that everything becomes bizarro world. For those that want to see a full-on heel turn, I wonder if he could be the one to split the Shield, the night after WM? Lord knows the fans would be ripe for it, considering he’s sure to hold the belt when the show starts. |
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