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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jan 2, 2018 21:53:58 GMT -5
Strange old thread for a wrestling forum, I know but hear me out. Ive been looking at alot of old photos from the late 19th century and early 20th century and how everyone looks very eloquent. Men smartly dressed with their bowler hats and women likewise with their dresses. Reading old accounts of the civil war and seeing how even the lowest ranking privates would write in their diaries and how well versed they are in their vocabulary. I would love to travel by horse and carriage nowadays rather than cars etc. Obviously we havent regressed as a race but sometimes you really wonder...
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 2, 2018 21:59:38 GMT -5
Well, when public education rides on grants and money in pockets, and a program such as "No child left behind" is actually a way to keep schools overall grade above average for better funding and again, more money in pockets, you can see why citizens have such poor vocabulary.
We have advanced far beyond those times in technology, but we have regressed mentally. Its amazing, the more people know, the less common knowledge they lose.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 2, 2018 22:13:41 GMT -5
Well, when public education rides on grants and money in pockets, and a program such as "No child left behind" is actually a way to keep schools overall grade above average for better funding and again, more money in pockets, you can see why citizens have such poor vocabulary. We have advanced far beyond those times in technology, but we have regressed mentally. Its amazing, the more people know, the less common knowledge they lose.This 1000 times over. I always tell people if you've never read The Greatest Generation by Tom Brokaw you have to go out right away and do it. The things that that generation was faced with would make this generation absolutely crumble in a matter of months. There's thing that happened after that generation that are great (Womens rights, Civil rights) but if we had the same mentality & toughness to us as that generation did, everything would be within out grasps.
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Post by Planktung on Jan 2, 2018 22:36:24 GMT -5
I feel that for every bit of progression that's been achieved, there's been something equally regressive. So, we've done neither.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 2, 2018 22:58:26 GMT -5
Neither. I think society has progressed regressively. In an attempt to promote equality as the standard, we have done nothing but found ways to make certain classifications; gender, race, etc. SUPERIOR instead of equal.
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Post by disorder on Jan 2, 2018 23:41:21 GMT -5
Neither. I think society has progressed regressively. In an attempt to promote equality as the standard, we have done nothing but found ways to make certain classifications; gender, race, etc. SUPERIOR instead of equal. The only thing it has done is give a good number of white men a superiority complex.
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Post by Jack Specific on Jan 2, 2018 23:43:25 GMT -5
When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different.
If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness.
JS
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Post by Mark Martin on Jan 3, 2018 3:05:55 GMT -5
Both.
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Post by hbkjason on Jan 3, 2018 3:13:59 GMT -5
I used to work in a school and my wife still does and I know it makes me sound like an old fart, but I am genuinely worried about the way things are going to be in the future. Things like common decency and manners are not commonplace and most of the kids who are rude, cause problems and disrupt class constantly have parents who are just the same! People like this have no trouble telling you to off and in general, just say and do whatever they want, but when you call them out on it... Holly hell do they know all their rights, act offended and play the victim. I honestly think that at school from like the ages of five and all the way through high school there needs to be some kind of "not being an bunghole" class that teaches kids how to behave in public, treat people with respect, be a good person and also that just because your mom and dad are bungholes, you do not have to be one. Here is a prime example. A few weeks before Christmas break, my wife told me about this girl who was 14. She was excluded for three days for continuously swearing at teachers and just being generally disruptive. My wife asked the kid if she thought that swearing at people was an appropriate way to communicate and the kid said that is the way people in her house talk! What chance does a kid like that have? Here in the UK, I would actually say that there is this kind o culture where it is almost cool to be kind of rough and scummy.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jan 3, 2018 4:35:06 GMT -5
Going to what Jack Specific said about the backwards welfare system, I agree. I work at a grocery store, and every food stamp day you see hundreds of people that are able to work just they choose not to. That infuriates me like nothing else. I even hear people bragging about how much they get every month because they don't work. Why should they be rewarded for their laziness? Why should they be proud about not having a job and contributing to society? I don't really want to sound extreme, but my goodness if food stamps went away, these people would just starve. It's pathetic.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jan 3, 2018 4:39:32 GMT -5
I used to work in a school and my wife still does and I know it makes me sound like an old fart, but I am genuinely worried about the way things are going to be in the future. Things like common decency and manners are not commonplace and most of the kids who are rude, cause problems and disrupt class constantly have parents who are just the same! People like this have no trouble telling you to off and in general, just say and do whatever they want, but when you call them out on it... Holly hell do they know all their rights, act offended and play the victim. I honestly think that at school from like the ages of five and all the way through high school there needs to be some kind of "not being an bunghole" class that teaches kids how to behave in public, treat people with respect, be a good person and also that just because your mom and dad are bungholes, you do not have to be one. Here is a prime example. A few weeks before Christmas break, my wife told me about this girl who was 14. She was excluded for three days for continuously swearing at teachers and just being generally disruptive. My wife asked the kid if she thought that swearing at people was an appropriate way to communicate and the kid said that is the way people in her house talk! What chance does a kid like that have? Here in the UK, I would actually say that there is this kind o culture where it is almost cool to be kind of rough and scummy. Sorry for the double post, but I just had to get this out here: it's a cool thing to be a scummy person now. Doing drugs, drinking excessively, cheating on your SO, these things are cool now and you're considered lame if you don't. It's constantly portrayed like that on TV, in music, in everything. It's ridiculous.
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Post by disorder on Jan 3, 2018 8:03:15 GMT -5
When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different. If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness. JS You do realize that kids are in these situations these days, primarily due to their parents generation and the previous one making it that much harder. It’s become normal for young adults to still live at home and be supported by their parents, because it’s not economically possible for them. When school keeps getting more expensive and the minimum wage is not up to par with inflation, you get a broke economy. Yes there’s tons of jobs out their for the youth to have, but even with these jobs, assistance is still needed to survive. The only broke part of the welfare system, is that people learn to rely on it, because they have no other outlets. Sure the younger generation are into the craptiest things and act like bafoons.. But any economic hardship they deal with is because of the generations before not handling politics or the economy properly.
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Post by disorder on Jan 3, 2018 8:07:53 GMT -5
I used to work in a school and my wife still does and I know it makes me sound like an old fart, but I am genuinely worried about the way things are going to be in the future. Things like common decency and manners are not commonplace and most of the kids who are rude, cause problems and disrupt class constantly have parents who are just the same! People like this have no trouble telling you to off and in general, just say and do whatever they want, but when you call them out on it... Holly hell do they know all their rights, act offended and play the victim. I honestly think that at school from like the ages of five and all the way through high school there needs to be some kind of "not being an bunghole" class that teaches kids how to behave in public, treat people with respect, be a good person and also that just because your mom and dad are bungholes, you do not have to be one. Here is a prime example. A few weeks before Christmas break, my wife told me about this girl who was 14. She was excluded for three days for continuously swearing at teachers and just being generally disruptive. My wife asked the kid if she thought that swearing at people was an appropriate way to communicate and the kid said that is the way people in her house talk! What chance does a kid like that have? Here in the UK, I would actually say that there is this kind o culture where it is almost cool to be kind of rough and scummy. Sorry for the double post, but I just had to get this out here: it's a cool thing to be a scummy person now. Doing drugs, drinking excessively, cheating on your SO, these things are cool now and you're considered lame if you don't. It's constantly portrayed like that on TV, in music, in everything. It's ridiculous. I don’t know what country you’re from..but underage drinking and drug is at a low currently
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Post by ClashOfStyles on Jan 3, 2018 9:22:30 GMT -5
Neither. I think society has progressed regressively. In an attempt to promote equality as the standard, we have done nothing but found ways to make certain classifications; gender, race, etc. SUPERIOR instead of equal. The only thing it has done is give a good number of white men a superiority complex. I agree, but colored people who play the racism card every time something doesn’t go their way are just as bad. My point is that race relations just need to improve. That’s whites, blacks, Latinos, and everyone else. Technologically, society has advanced, but the overall mindset has gone to sh*t. Every problem has to be blamed on race, gender, etc even if that wasn’t part of the problem in the first place.
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Post by ahunter8056 on Jan 3, 2018 9:42:52 GMT -5
To respond to the actual topic, I absolutely believe that society has progressed, and anyone that thinks otherwise is just being foolish in my view. As a whole in first world countries, black people, women, and homosexuals are no longer treated as inferior by the majority. That's definitely a major leap, and in my view that is proof that society has definitely progressed. When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different. If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness. JS This is just such a bizarre post to me. Why on earth should a child give up their seat at a table at a restaurant or on a bus for an adult? The point isn't that children should be viewed as equal to an adult (given that they're much earlier in development), but that they need looking after, whereas adults do not. With weaker legs that are less used to standing up for prolonged periods of time, children absolutely need a seat far more than an adult does. Why do you have that expectation? It just seems so backward to me. The whole point of a parent is to look after their child. Since when should a child be expected to look after an adult? The point often made that today's generation is overly disrespectful, as opposed to the supposedly and often claimed "perfect" generation before them is complete bullcrap. The difference is the existence of social media and the internet. Now everyone can see the disrespectful nature of teenagers, whereas before it was not viewable to the world. Before it was hidden, now it is easily seen. I don't know how it is in America, but in the UK it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to sponge off of the welfare system for a prolonged period of time. In the UK you have to really work for your benefits. More than that, the government are actively taking money away from people who genuinely do really need it. If an adult is sponging off their parents while refusing to get a job, then I absolutely agree with you that those people are wrong. But the reality is that they are only a minority rather than the majority, as your post seemed to imply. At least, that's how I interpreted it. However by the same token, I don't agree that once children have grown up their parents should rely solely on their children to provide for them. As long as the parents can still work, why shouldn't they continue to provide for themselves? Is that not hypocritical to state that adults should not rely on their children to provide for them, while also claiming that parents should rely on their grown-up children to provide for them? Of course if the grown-up children have enough money to support their parents whilst also providing for themselves, then they absolutely should. As somebody else has already mentioned, the older generation must take responsibility for screwing up the economy. The fact that there are still people of the older generation refusing to take responsibility and shifting blame onto the current generation is sickening. Of course there are people of the current generation taking advantage, but rather like the very generation that they claim "take no responsibility", baby boomers and generation X themselves refuse to take responsibility. Not all baby boomers and generation X of course, because to make a blanket statement about an entire generation would be incredibly foolish, but the ones complaining about the newer generation are usually the ones that don't take responsibility. The fact is that every generation loves to blame, insult, and disrespect any generation that follows them. It has always happened, and it will always happen. There will always be those people. If people treated everyone of every generation equally, the world would be a much more pleasant place. Unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon, but there is always hope. I'd just like to finish my post by clarifying that I tried to argue my points in the most respectful manner possible. I'm sure my post will offend and anger some people, but I just could not sit back and ignore this thread.
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Post by disorder on Jan 3, 2018 9:58:27 GMT -5
To respond to the actual topic, I absolutely believe that society has progressed, and anyone that thinks otherwise is just being foolish in my view. As a whole in the first world, blacks, women, and homosexuals are no longer treated as inferior by the majority. That's definitely a major leap, and in my view that is proof that society has definitely progressed. When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different. If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness. JS This is just such a bizarre post to me. Why on earth should a child give up their seat at a table at a restaurant or on a bus for an adult? The point isn't that children should be viewed as equal to an adult (given that they're much earlier in development), but that they need looking after, whereas adults do not. With weaker legs that are less used to standing up for prolonged periods of time, children absolutely need a seat far more than an adult does. Why do you have that expectation? It just seems so backward to me. The whole point of a parent is to look after their child. Since when should a child be expected to look after an adult? The point often made that today's generation is overly disrespectful, as opposed to the supposedly and often claimed "perfect" generation before them is complete bullcrap. The difference is the existence of social media and the internet. Now everyone can see the disrespectful nature of teenagers, whereas before it was not viewable to the world. Before it was hidden, now it is easily seen. I don't know how it is in America, but in the UK it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to sponge off of the welfare system for a prolonged period of time. In the UK you have to really work for your benefits. More than that, the government are actively taking money away from people who genuinely do really need it. If an adult is sponging off their parents while refusing to get a job, then I absolutely agree with you that those people are wrong. But the reality is that they are only a minority rather than the majority, as your post seemed to imply. At least, that's how I interpreted it. However by the same token, I don't agree that once children have grown up their parents should rely solely on their children to provide for them. As long as the parents can still work, why shouldn't they continue to provide for themselves? Is that not hypocritical to state that adults should not rely on their children to provide for them, while also claiming that parents should rely on their grown-up children to provide for them? Of course if the grown-up children have enough money to support their parents whilst also providing for themselves, then they absolutely should. As somebody else has already mentioned, the older generation must take responsibility for screwing up the economy. The fact that there are still people of the older generation refusing to take responsibility and shifting blame onto the current generation is sickening. Of course there are people of the current generation taking advantage, but rather like the very generation that they claim "take no responsibility", baby boomers and generation X themselves refuse to take responsibility. Not all baby boomers and generation X of course, because to make a blanket statement about an entire generation would be incredibly foolish, but the ones complaining about the newer generation are usually the ones that don't take responsibility. The fact is that every generation loves to blame, insult, and disrespect any generation that follows them. It has always happened, and it will always happen. There will always be those people. If people treated everyone of every generation equally, the world would be a much more pleasant place. Unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon, but there is always hope. I'd just like to finish my post by clarifying that I tried to argue my points in the most respectful manner possible. I'm sure my post will offend and anger some people, but I just could not sit back and ignore this thread. You are dead on with the generation thing. The baby boomers and the one that followed are “perfect” yet have been the reason the shape of our country is all out of whack. Unlike the UK, the US welfare system is a bit easier to be corrupted. Though abuse of it is not as common as most think, it still is taken advantage of. This is for some reason the only thing some people will let a few bad eggs spoil.
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Post by vampiroporvida on Jan 3, 2018 10:38:37 GMT -5
As a whole, I believe we regressed, but not in the right ways. We don't help each other like they did in, say, western times. (Forgive me, been watching westerns lately) Doctors would help when needed, people would feed each other, and there were actual communities that consisted of neighbors that cared. Now, it is dog eat dog, and I am better than you. It literally hurts to see how this world has become. We also have over consumption, and waste that is rampant. And work, well, I am with Bertrand Russell on that.... Here's to hoping things get better out here.
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Post by ET had AIDS on Jan 3, 2018 13:31:42 GMT -5
double-negative, batman
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 3, 2018 18:45:37 GMT -5
Neither. I think society has progressed regressively. In an attempt to promote equality as the standard, we have done nothing but found ways to make certain classifications; gender, race, etc. SUPERIOR instead of equal. The only thing it has done is give a good number of white men a superiority complex. There is no doubt that some white men have a superiority complex. However, each classification is screaming for equality, but in reality want better. When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different. If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness. JS I agree with you on almost everything you said. But one thought of yours, I would like to add onto. You spoke about unemployment and a backwards welfare system. While, this is true....Id like to add that the system itself is broken. NO ONE should be able to make more money on welfare/unemployment than working a 40hr a week job. The min. wage hasnt been raised since 2009 (minus certain areas who raised beginning of this year). $7.25 is an inhumane wage. Based on the rise of inflation, the min. wage should be somewhere around $11 to $13/hr. Even our seniors are being shorted in their SSI. A 1% increase in monthly pay for a cost of living adjustment. The problem is the cost of living has increased by 3% on a conservative year.
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Post by Arik Cannon on Jan 3, 2018 19:04:46 GMT -5
When I was a kid growing up in the 70's and a teen growing up in the 80's, things were so different. No adults kissed our asses. We were the lesser important people between adults and kids. That's not to say we were unimportant, but we were not at the same league or above adults as most children are now a days. We were disciplined. We had actual consequences. We would not dare say something bad to any adult or disrespect any adult... and if we did dare to, we would have our asses handed to ourselves and then more consequences at home. If we were sitting on a bus with a parent or sitting at a restaurant waiting for a table and there were adults coming in, WE had to get up to let them sit, not the other way around as it is today. As a result, common courtesy is now all but extinct. Tolerance is gone. Everyone is out for themselves with no forethought of how any of our selfishness affects our fellow human beings. There is so much unemployment out there not because it is too hard to get a job, but because many do not have to. Mommy & Daddy support their very grown up and capable children, not to mention the backwards welfare system that also supports the jobless. The grown up children should be helping out THEIR PARENTS, not the other way around. Many Grandparents just about have no choice to support and be surrogate Parents to their Grandkids because their lazy, disrespectful, irresponsible children refuse to do what they have to do and instead go party at the expense of their parents. Not to say that everyone is like that, but I see it so much now and how it's so different. If I could ask anything of you guys, you the children that are still kids and teens... please be the ones to make a difference and be responsible, respect fellow humans and animals. Don't force your parents to have to suffer the hardship of your mistakes or irresponsibilities. Those consequences are yours and yours only, no one else's, not your Parents and not the Welfare system. Know that others have feelings, not only you. You are not better than anyone, nor is anyone better than you. Love yourself, you are important, but so is everyone else. You can make a dire and much needed change in this world and all it takes is a little understanding, facing your mistakes, a dash of responsibility with a touch of tolerance & kindness. JS I agree with you. As a parent of a 4 and 6 year old I catch myself saying all the time “geez am I too hard on my kids?” I try so hard to make sure they don’t grow up to be self centered entitled punks and I feel like that’s it’s becoming more and more harder to find other parents that share the same expectations as me. Case in point, my 6 year old son Got in trouble on the bus a few weeks ago and was written up by the bus driver. So I dealt with it at home, punished him and Had him write an apology letter to the bus driver. On top of that when the bus driver dropped him off at home the next day I assured the bus driver that his behavior Will not be a problem again And thanked him for letting me know about what happened on the bus. Now what he did on the bus was not a big deal honestly at all and it was just kids being kids but I still find it necessary to sit down and talk to him about what is expected. His bus driver is also a part-time pizza delivery person and now the last month or so He has dropped off a free pizza at my house when he’s in the neighborhood. Showing other people the proper respect (especially as a kid) Goes a long way these days and will hopefully mold that young child into a decent human being as an adult.
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