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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 15:59:46 GMT -5
Al Snow has said in multiple interviews that the best match of wrestlemania 3 was Hogan vs Andre just because it drew the 93,000 fans. It doesn't matter what match was the best in terms of in ring quality, so he doesn't think Savage vs Steamboat was the best like 99 percent of everyone who saw the show. I disagree with his assessment and I'm sure you guys do too or not? I think his thinking is of an old time wrestler(he's been around since 82) Besides I'm sure a lot of people bought a ticket or ordered the ppv mainly to see Steamboat get his revenge. Hogan vs Andre wasn't even in the top 3 of WM 3 matches.
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Post by The Brain on Jan 16, 2018 16:25:38 GMT -5
From a build standpoint and just the magnitude of the names involved Andre/Hogan will forever be the biggest match in Mania history.
That being said though Steamboat/Savage was definitely match of the night and it isn't even close.
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Post by T R W on Jan 16, 2018 16:28:51 GMT -5
I see his point, and to an extent he is right. As someone who bought the PPV, and loved Steamboat vs. Savage, almost everyone ordered that PPV for Hogan vs. Andre. The hype was unreal. Sure Savage and Steamboat put on an all-time great match and it is a better wrestling match than the main event. But I get the point he is trying to make.
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Post by PJ on Jan 16, 2018 16:36:44 GMT -5
As far as the in ring performance goes it was by far Steamboat vs Savage...but it was Hogan vs Andre that filled all the seats and PPV purchases.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 16, 2018 16:51:57 GMT -5
Snow is 100% correct!
Fans bought the WM 3 PPV to see if Hogan can slam Andre and beat him.
Sure, Savage vs. Steamboat had a good story line too, but fans weren't sure they were gonna see a great match between the two. It ended up happening, thus making it talked about to this day. But fans bought that PPV for Hogan vs. Andre.
Al Snow is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 17:38:53 GMT -5
He also thinks Sid vs Hogan was the best match of WM 8. That match was a DUD. By 92 though I think the name wrestlemania was strong enough to draw 60,000(papered or not).
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Post by raz2005uk on Jan 16, 2018 20:52:48 GMT -5
Hogan vs. Andre was the biggest blow off in that decade, everybody wanted to see if the 'immovable object' could be slammed. Shame Vince tried to replicate it with Yoko and Lex Luger - the lex express was a total flop, I remember as a kid being so upset after seeing Hogan leave straight-after KOTR 93. Just couldn't see Lex in the same vein.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jan 16, 2018 23:07:52 GMT -5
Al Snow like Raven talks too much. If he thinks thats the best match at WM3 then fair enough, I dont agree.
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Post by k5 on Jan 17, 2018 1:20:49 GMT -5
the issue is that the wwf’s 1980 hulkamania product was focussing on bad aspects of the wrestling business imo. for example, in the nwa at this time you didn’t usually have this argument, because the best match was also 9 times out of 10 the main event - because the focus was on WRESTLING.
so yeah, I guess you could call sable’s tits a better wrestler than 90% of the attitude era roster based on drawing ratings and selling tickets based on al snow’s perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 11:33:34 GMT -5
Well he is right. Nobody paid money to see Macho/Steamboat...and that shouldn't take away from the fact that it was the best"wrestling" match on the card. Everyone there and at home paid to see Hogan v Andre.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 11:55:37 GMT -5
Well he is right. Nobody paid money to see Macho/Steamboat...and that shouldn't take away from the fact that it was the best"wrestling" match on the card. Everyone there and at home paid to see Hogan v Andre. You're saying NOBODY paid to see Steamboat vs Savage? First of all that's insulting to them and secondly I'm sure a lot of people ordered the ppv mainly for their match(I know Lance Storm said he did). But yes I agree most bought mainly for Hogan vs Andre. On a side not Hogan has said in interviews that he and Andre drew the house at Showdown at Shea. That's wrong because most people wanted to see Bruno get his revenge on Larry in the cage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:07:29 GMT -5
Well he is right. Nobody paid money to see Macho/Steamboat...and that shouldn't take away from the fact that it was the best"wrestling" match on the card. Everyone there and at home paid to see Hogan v Andre. You're saying NOBODY paid to see Steamboat vs Savage? First of all that's insulting to them and secondly I'm sure a lot of people ordered the ppv mainly for their match(I know Lance Storm said he did). But yes I agree most bought mainly for Hogan vs Andre. On a side not Hogan has said in interviews that he and Andre drew the house at Showdown at Shea. That's wrong because most people wanted to see Bruno get his revenge on Larry in the cage. I didn't say it. Albert Snow did. I didn't insult them. Allister Snow did. I didn't make the shoot video stating what I am quoting... Allison Snow did. So calm down.
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Post by PJ on Jan 17, 2018 12:51:45 GMT -5
Well he is right. Nobody paid money to see Macho/Steamboat...and that shouldn't take away from the fact that it was the best"wrestling" match on the card. Everyone there and at home paid to see Hogan v Andre. You're saying NOBODY paid to see Steamboat vs Savage? First of all that's insulting to them and secondly I'm sure a lot of people ordered the ppv mainly for their match(I know Lance Storm said he did). But yes I agree most bought mainly for Hogan vs Andre. I'll say it. If it wasn't for Hogan vs Andre 80% of that arena and PPV sales wouldn't have happened. They were the two that everyone wanted to see. Sure Steamboat vs Savage stole the show, but if not for Hogan vs Andre then there would have been alot less people that would have seen it while it happened. Basically if the Main Event leading up to WMIII was Savage vs Steamboat instead of Hogan vs Andre it wouldn't have come close to reaching the numbers they did.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:58:22 GMT -5
I agree that most people wanted to see Hogan vs Andre, but to say nobody wanted to see Steamboat vs Savage is stretching it. That is all I will say. I don't want to argue. I don't want this to be locked because of that.
When it comes to WM 3 a lot of people forget about Piper vs Adonis. It's a shame since the build for that match was great and the match itself was the 2nd best of the night. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people paid mainly for Pipet's retirement match.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 17, 2018 18:23:48 GMT -5
Al Snow has always been about working the room, putting on the show, and giving the audience what they paid for.
It's not surprising that he thinks Hogan and Andre was the best match on the card. He's not wrong either. The match was the main event, and it did exactly what it was there to do. It drew, it made history, and it gave people a memory.
Transport yourself mentally back to 1987. Don't look at the match through the lens of 31 years later, look at it from there and then.
If you can't do that, then rewatch the end of that match. The crowd goes apecrap when Hogan slams him...and then somehow gets LOUDER after the pin is counted. Nothing can touch that. That's chills.
This 2018 mindset of everything has to be technical perfection forgets the fact that professional wrestling has always been first and foremost...a show. Hogan and Andre delivered like nothing before or since.
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Post by PJ on Jan 17, 2018 19:29:03 GMT -5
I agree that most people wanted to see Hogan vs Andre, but to say nobody wanted to see Steamboat vs Savage is stretching it. That is all I will say. I don't want to argue. I don't want this to be locked because of that. When it comes to WM 3 a lot of people forget about Piper vs Adonis. It's a shame since the build for that match was great and the match itself was the 2nd best of the night. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people paid mainly for Pipet's retirement match. I was 20 back then and Piper (and Sting) were my favorite wrestlers and I couldn't wait for the Piper vs Adonis match, but my father ordered the PPV because we (father/uncle/cousins) all wanted to see Hogan beat Andre.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 17, 2018 21:44:20 GMT -5
By that logic Reigns/HHH at WrestleMania 32 is the greatest WWE match of all time because it drew 101,763 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 22:52:08 GMT -5
By that logic Reigns/HHH at WrestleMania 32 is the greatest WWE match of all time because it drew 101,763 🙄 The name wrestlemania drew that crowd at the big Dallas Stadium. By the early 90s the name wrestlemania was enough to draw fans. That's why WM 8 did 60,000. Not that awful Sid vs Hogan match.
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Post by PJ on Jan 17, 2018 22:57:02 GMT -5
By that logic Reigns/HHH at WrestleMania 32 is the greatest WWE match of all time because it drew 101,763 🙄 WrestleMania today is a much different beast than it was back in the early days of WM. They didn’t have a fan fest week/weekend leading up to it...it was just the event. And with the Network they don’t need to care about PPV sales to drive it.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 17, 2018 23:21:33 GMT -5
By that logic Reigns/HHH at WrestleMania 32 is the greatest WWE match of all time because it drew 101,763 🙄 The name wrestlemania drew that crowd at the big Dallas Stadium. By the early 90s the name wrestlemania was enough to draw fans. That's why WM 8 did 60,000. Not that awful Sid vs Hogan match. By that logic Reigns/HHH at WrestleMania 32 is the greatest WWE match of all time because it drew 101,763 🙄 WrestleMania today is a much different beast than it was back in the early days of WM. They didn’t have a fan fest week/weekend leading up to it...it was just the event. And with the Network they don’t need to care about PPV sales to drive it. Interesting that you both have said similar things about it. I haven’t watched WrestleMania 3, nor do I plan to but how long was the Hogan/Andre build and when we’re tickets/location announced prior to the event? Nowadays a Mania location is announced a year or 2 prior so people can plan to make the trip and WWE can make up the numbers, it must’ve been a lot different back then? Also, as for my original post it was a knock on Al Snow’s logic, not anyone else’s.
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