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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Jan 23, 2018 13:59:41 GMT -5
Did they really expect half and half when one arena had 15,000 and the other had less than 500? Exactly this, even though the Manhattan Center had the nostalgic look, it wouldn’t be merely as visually appealing compared to 15,000 fans in an LED lit up Barclays Center to the casual viewer/channel flicker.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jan 23, 2018 14:41:06 GMT -5
Can't blame them. There was always going to be issues doing one show in 2 arenas considering you could go to one arena expecting to certain guys, only for them to be at the other arena. But the Manhattan crowd got it even worse than I imagined. Good to watch on TV, must've been a cluster being there live.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:02:16 GMT -5
It's really not much worse treatment than customers may be subject to at Axxess. In the end the experience all depends on the customer's attitude. Buyer beware.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jan 23, 2018 15:04:24 GMT -5
They should have given the fans a meet and greet after. Honestly how long would it take to get through that crowd? Especially if they had 3-4 guys there signings and you got one guy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:06:58 GMT -5
They should have given the fans a meet and greet after. Honestly how long would it take to get through that crowd? Especially if they had 3-4 guys there signings and you got one guy TNA used to do that after TV tapings- they still may. (Heck, TNA used to let paying attendees have some catering!) But TNA's "Axxess" events were always more fan-friendly than WWE's. It's a different beast.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Jan 23, 2018 15:14:40 GMT -5
They should have given the fans a meet and greet after. Honestly how long would it take to get through that crowd? Especially if they had 3-4 guys there signings and you got one guy TNA used to do that after TV tapings- they still may. (Heck, TNA used to let paying attendees have some catering!) But TNA's "Axxess" events were always more fan-friendly than WWE's. It's a different beast. To be fair though, it would have only taken ten minutes with TNA's crowd.
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Post by bababooey on Jan 23, 2018 16:17:32 GMT -5
They should have given the fans a meet and greet after. Honestly how long would it take to get through that crowd? Especially if they had 3-4 guys there signings and you got one guy TNA used to do that after TV tapings- they still may. (Heck, TNA used to let paying attendees have some catering!) But TNA's "Axxess" events were always more fan-friendly than WWE's. It's a different beast. I went to a couple TNA shows around 2010. Both had meet and greets before the show that I believe were free. I didn’t see anyone at the show I went to at the Hammerstein because I was sick and just wanted to sit down. Cool part was we had balcony seats. We told the security person our tickets just said balcony and didn’t have seat numbers. She was like “Oh yeah. You can just sit in whatever seats you want up here.” During the show Dixie Carter walked around in the crowd saying hi and taking pictures with fans. She didn’t stop by our area but that was cool. The show I went to at the County Center had a much more organized preshow meet and greet. Pretty much the entire roster sat at tables around the place and you went through the line and everyone signed for you. If you bought one of the brown bag things you got a ticket to go on stage and have Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles sign their Jakks 2 pack. We laughed because Jeff had a huge elaborate autograph with a fat marker. AJ was like “Dammit Jeff! Leave me some room to sign! I’m smudgin everyone’s autographs and gettin marker all over my freakin hand!” As for the lack of stuff happening at the Manhattan Center. For the price people paid they should have at least had Legends come out and talk to the crowd when the cameras weren’t on. There were a lot of Legends at Barclays that did nothing but walk out and wave. Send them to MC and have them talk to the crowd about their favorite RAW memories and what it meant to be there.
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Post by Chip on Jan 23, 2018 16:57:15 GMT -5
just a terrible show all around. what a massive letdown. i cant believe they had the balls to just let people watch RAW on a ing TV screen.
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Post by LuisTX on Jan 23, 2018 17:11:56 GMT -5
Ha! And the Chicago Squared Circle shirt guy was there front and center thinking he was going to be at the hot spot. NNNNNERRRRRDDDDD! As well as the guy in the green shirt and Raw/SmackDown white jacket.
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Post by LuisTX on Jan 23, 2018 17:21:40 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of people saying they feel bad for the people who paid as much as they did to be at the Manhattan Center for the show. Honestly, I don't, and here's why. The last TV taping I went to, I believe, was the Raw/SmackDown double taping in 2009 the Monday before WrestleMania 25, which took place in Houston that year, and the taping was in Dallas. Since then, I've had plenty of chances to go to tapings all over Texas, but have chosen not to. The simple reason is, I don't want to take the chance they decide to make the taping I go to a situation where they choose to run a bunch of video packages and have lots of talking segments. And they've really been doing that even more since getting the 3rd hour of RAW, as if they don't know what else to do with the extra hour every week. So what the people in the Manhattan Center experienced, sounds fairly typical of a RAW show these days anyway, spending most of the time watching the screen and getting very little in-ring action. I wouldn't even entertain the idea of drawing out what would have made the show better, because WWE isn't going to televise their biggest stars in such a small venue anymore. If they didn't have the WWE Network, NXT may still be exclusive to Florida TV.
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Post by Danger10 on Jan 23, 2018 17:47:44 GMT -5
I don't understand why WWE didn't have mid carters like Hawkins or even mid carters from Smackdown or NXT guys putting on matches for the live crowd in between segments being aired.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 23, 2018 18:13:43 GMT -5
I posted this in the Raw thread but someone on Twitter said that front row tickets sold for $835. I'd be super pissed if I paid that much money and got like a combined total of 35 minutes of entertainment.
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Post by CampCornette on Jan 23, 2018 18:31:16 GMT -5
The show overall was a huge letdown. Reminds me why I don't watch weekly anymore. Brad stole my thoughts exactly and said them before me
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jan 24, 2018 11:50:19 GMT -5
Good. It was full of every single smark “gimmick” fan over the last 5 years. Constantly having to chant and get their crap in, hoping to get over. Exactly. Citing 'Brock Lesnar guy' and the ing clown - to name just two. That crowd was smark city.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jan 24, 2018 14:40:29 GMT -5
Good. It was full of every single smark “gimmick” fan over the last 5 years. Constantly having to chant and get their crap in, hoping to get over. Exactly. Citing 'Brock Lesnar guy' and the ing clown - to name just two. That crowd was smark city. Forgot about the annoying bunghole who wears the neon green shirt with the smiley face on it. Guy only looks like he doesn’t shower or change his clothes.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 24, 2018 14:52:49 GMT -5
While I feel bad forthose who paid on the secondary market, I can'tblame WWE on this. I don't know how it marketed this event, but I know when the Miami Heat had playoff games, during away games, you could pay to watch the game in the arena in some instances or outside. It was more for the atmosphere. I'm thinking this is what happened here. If you were paying 800 for this, that's on you.
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Post by HARLAND on Jan 24, 2018 15:27:09 GMT -5
All of the Legends segments and matches should have taken place at the Manhattan Center, while the current storylines should have continued in the Barclays Center. Duh!! I would have had both cards going at the same time, with a dual screen setup, and switching back and forth for the sound. I do like the idea of Raw Is War on the Network and Raw on USA. Just add the simulcast used during the Purchase of WCW. They could have even used both venues for a shared promo or 3. DX and Razor Ramon at the Birthplace Of Raw doing the 2 Sweet promo with A J Styles and the Bálor Club at the home of the Nets. Matt in Manhattan, Bray in Brooklyn. APA playing 5 card draw, while Heath Slater and Rhyno are having a Texas Hold ‘Em tournament. Brock Lesnar attacks Kane where the legends are to start the show, but gets laid out by Braun Strowman when he shows up where the SuperStars are to end the show. Vince running the Legends Show with Triple H, Stephanie running today’s show with Shane. The only real issue would have been the Legends card. Kurt Angle’s Angle Invitational...accepted by Daniel Bryan!! Ladder match Chris Jericho vs. Jeff Hardy Tag Team Tables match A.P.A. vs. Dudley Boyz Brother Love Show Featuring Stables: Four Horsemen, New World Order, D-Generation X, Evolution, Main Event Mafia WWE Legends Championship Title match Hulk Hogan vs Stone Cold Steve Austin I'm assuming this is a complete fantasy card, right?
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Post by bababooey on Jan 24, 2018 15:48:11 GMT -5
While I feel bad forthose who paid on the secondary market, I can'tblame WWE on this. I don't know how it marketed this event, but I know when the Miami Heat had playoff games, during away games, you could pay to watch the game in the arena in some instances or outside. It was more for the atmosphere. I'm thinking this is what happened here. If you were paying 800 for this, that's on you. My issue with the advertising is they didn’t say who would be where and with the price I could see it leading people to believe more would be happening there. From what I read when I saw the advertising I got the feeling lots of Legends would be there celebrating 25 years of RAW. I wouldn’t have thought it was basically just watching the show on a screen. If they had marketed as that, I think a lot less people would be complaining. I’m just so relieved I didn’t buy the tickets because I was fooled and really considered buying tickets.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jan 24, 2018 17:43:33 GMT -5
While I feel bad forthose who paid on the secondary market, I can'tblame WWE on this. I don't know how it marketed this event, but I know when the Miami Heat had playoff games, during away games, you could pay to watch the game in the arena in some instances or outside. It was more for the atmosphere. I'm thinking this is what happened here. If you were paying 800 for this, that's on you. My issue with the advertising is they didn’t say who would be where and with the price I could see it leading people to believe more would be happening there. From what I read when I saw the advertising I got the feeling lots of Legends would be there celebrating 25 years of RAW. I wouldn’t have thought it was basically just watching the show on a screen. If they had marketed as that, I think a lot less people would be complaining. I’m just so relieved I didn’t buy the tickets because I was fooled and really considered buying tickets. Exactly! Wwe did a beyond poor job of advertising what exactly You were walking into. My friend was busting my balls saying what kind of fan are you for missing this big deal show. I told him if I knew what exactly was goin on I would have went. I didn’t know who would be where and wasn’t shelling 800$ to see someone like let’s say Austin and the rock and then end up at the Barclays. Same can be said as I wasn’t spending to go to the barclays when who I wanted to showed up at the Manhattan. It was terrible Advertised all around
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Post by bababooey on Jan 24, 2018 18:21:00 GMT -5
My issue with the advertising is they didn’t say who would be where and with the price I could see it leading people to believe more would be happening there. From what I read when I saw the advertising I got the feeling lots of Legends would be there celebrating 25 years of RAW. I wouldn’t have thought it was basically just watching the show on a screen. If they had marketed as that, I think a lot less people would be complaining. I’m just so relieved I didn’t buy the tickets because I was fooled and really considered buying tickets. Exactly! Wwe did a beyond poor job of advertising what exactly You were walking into. My friend was busting my balls saying what kind of fan are you for missing this big deal show. I told him if I knew what exactly was goin on I would have went. I didn’t know who would be where and wasn’t shelling 800$ to see someone like let’s say Austin and the rock and then end up at the Barclays. Same can be said as I wasn’t spending to go to the barclays when who I wanted to showed up at the Manhattan. It was terrible Advertised all around Also it’s not just the cost of the ticket to consider. If I had gone I would have paid for the ticket, taken a half day off work on Monday to get there in time, taken Tuesday off work to recover from getting home late, paid for a round trip metro north ticket, paid for a subway card, paid for food, and have to deal with the cramped trains. People who drove would have had to sit in traffic and paid for parking. I went to Prichard’s show at Barclays Friday night. So worth it. For $150 I got to sit 10th row from the court for the Nets vs Heat game, meet Bruce and Conrad at half time, get a front row seat to their show after the game which in addition to Bruce and Conrad had Eric Bischoff, JBL, Sam Roberts, Shuli from the Howard Stern Show, and freakin Oscar from Men On a Mission.
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