gregrules420
POSSIBLE BAD TRADER
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Feb 11, 2018 15:27:25 GMT -5
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Post by gregrules420 on Feb 11, 2018 15:27:25 GMT -5
Having me listed as a possible bad traitor for not honoring a deal which I am still owed twice as much as he owes me is pretty not cool you can go ahead and ask anybody else on here I have never screwed anybody on a deal one time I haven't screwed at SteveHulk.... I have half of the stuff he has asked for waiting to ship out as I told him several times when I had everything he had asked for I was going to ship it out that doesn't make me a bad Trader that makes me doing it on my terms traitor and since he owes me twice what I owe him it's not cool to label me a bad Trader for one person being upset with me
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gregrules420
POSSIBLE BAD TRADER
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Feb 11, 2018 15:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by gregrules420 on Feb 11, 2018 15:29:04 GMT -5
So whoever the mod is fix that now take that s*** off of my name because that's not who I am and just because SteveHulk got impatient and decided to throw a big fit about it doesn't make me a bad Trader it just makes him impatient
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gregrules420
POSSIBLE BAD TRADER
Joined on: Dec 29, 2014 9:17:09 GMT -5
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Feb 11, 2018 15:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by gregrules420 on Feb 11, 2018 15:39:50 GMT -5
I can't even defend myself I just get labeled a bad Trader and my thread locked that seems fair considering I don't cause any trouble on here and I have never backed out of a trade with anybody ever and I hadn't backed out of this trade I just don't have everything he wants and you're going to do this there is no fairness to this all somebody has to do is make a complaint and you're going to label them a bad Trader he owes me twice what I owe him where is his possible bad Trader or how about everybody that I've sent something to that is never sent me anything in return because I've never asked and if I had asked and they didn't send me something what was I supposed to do get them labeled as a bad Trader
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Post by Mox on Feb 11, 2018 16:03:24 GMT -5
I read that locked thread. I don't know what to say, but this thread was a bad idea. If I were you I'd swallow my pride and work something out with SH to show you did your best to make things right. Then you'd have a case to make to the mods.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 11, 2018 16:21:17 GMT -5
This is ridiculous - you've had MONTHS to try and sort this out Greg, but you've been completely unwilling: you stopped replying to my PM's and you've not been replying in the trade thread (which I HAD to make). The mods have also been in contact with you, trying to sort things out.
Bottom line is: I sent you over $200 worth of stuff and after A YEAR have still had nothing in return. I've tried my best (for 2 months) to resolve this amicably, but you just seemed totally unwilling to even TRY... and now you're throwing a hissy fit?
You fully deserve the "bad trader" tag and hopefully others will think twice before dealing with you.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 11, 2018 16:36:58 GMT -5
BTW - there was no need to send me a nasty-toned PM... I'm the one who's been wronged here.
It's strange that it's only after you're labeled as a Bad Trader that you suddenly start communicating. As I said before: all this could have been avoided.
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cso
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Post by cso on Feb 11, 2018 16:58:32 GMT -5
Wowzers! I ain't never trusted an adult w 420 in their name. Dead give away they're not about that life. Hope you get what you deserve Stevester.. Hulkster... uh SH.
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HARLAND
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SILENCE IS VIOLENCE!
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Post by HARLAND on Feb 11, 2018 16:59:34 GMT -5
This thread DEFINITELY isn't going to help your case. I don't know what happened, but a thread like this thread pretty much guarantees that you're gonna keep the tag.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 11, 2018 18:48:52 GMT -5
All this is really hard to read when there's no punctuation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:48:33 GMT -5
Throwing my support to Greg here. Dealt with him about five times and every time has been quick and good from both ends with him buying something off me and with him sending me something (for free because he knew I was after it.) Reading the trade thread that was set up here I see where there is some issue seems like there was lack of communication and proper trade threads set up. If there was a trade thread to follow that was set up and then agreed upon by both and then Greg didn't follow on with it, then I could understand, but it seems like there was just some chat in PMs after a history was established. Given that some of the figures mentioned in the linked trade thread being asked for from Greg come as such drastic time differences, we didn't get the Nitro 4 pack or Virgil until like October/November in the States? the Andre and Issac were the mid to late Summer?, but the thread says that it has been 9 months as of December 2017? From my understanding, there was a history established in the way you guys traded that didn't feel it was like I'm sending X for X it seemed open-ended? Gotta say that I can't consider Greg a bad trader, I think this falls under bad communication on both sides, and the lack of a specific trade thread I don't think is fair towards Greg because I can't see anything that says Greg agreed to X and he didn't follow through. Unless I'm wrong then please directly link those trade threads.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 11, 2018 21:03:21 GMT -5
I appreciate your input @heroesandmartyrs, so let me tell you the history: Throwing my support to Greg here. Dealt with him about five times and every time has been quick and good from both ends with him buying something off me and with him sending me something (for free because he knew I was after it.) I had dealt with Greg a few times previously and he always seemed cool - that's why I asked him for help getting me some US exclusives. Reading the trade thread that was set up here I see where there is some issue seems like there was lack of communication and proper trade threads set up. If there was a trade thread to follow that was set up and then agreed upon by both and then Greg didn't follow on with it, then I could understand, but it seems like there was just some chat in PMs after a history was established. In hindsight, I definitely SHOULD have set up a trade thread before sending the items - I really didn't think I needed too though, as I had dealt with Greg before and trusted him. It wasn't "just some chat" in PM's... I specifically contacted him (after about 9 months since we'd talked last), asking him for specific help and what he'd like in return. He said he would help and told me what he was after (...I sent him 8 MOC Elites and the Contract Chaos playset on February 2nd). Given that some of the figures mentioned in the linked trade thread being asked for from Greg come as such drastic time differences, we didn't get the Nitro 4 pack or Virgil until like October/November in the States? the Andre and Issac were the mid to late Summer?, but the thread says that it has been 9 months as of December 2017? From my understanding, there was a history established in the way you guys traded that didn't feel it was like I'm sending X for X it seemed open-ended? Maybe it was open-ended in the past, but as I said - this was specifically a new deal. My original wants-list (from January 2017) was mainly for items that were either in store then or out very soon. I messaged Greg a few times from February to the end of July, asking if he'd found anything - and he either didn't reply or seemed very monosyllabic and uninterested. When I still hadn't received anything in late October (after 8/9 months), I asked if he'd look out for some other US exclusives if he saw them. And had no reply. I also messaged him again TWICE at the end of November, wondering if he'd rather get me some figures from RSC if he was having difficult finding the US exclusives. And again, both times, had no reply. So, put yourself in my position: after almost a YEAR without anything - and having had no reply to my last THREE PM's, I felt I had to set up a Trade thread, mainly to remind Greg about our deal and to try and get him to communicate (...what I else could I do?). It was here that Greg started with the attitude and the whole "oh, actually I don't owe you anything... this was just to make us even". Which is just an outright lie. Gotta say that I can't consider Greg a bad trader, I think this falls under bad communication on both sides, and the lack of a specific trade thread I don't think is fair towards Greg because I can't see anything that says Greg agreed to X and he didn't follow through. Unless I'm wrong then please directly link those trade threads. It is VERY bad communication - on his part. Even after I highlighted the issue, he didn't once contact me or reply again in the thread, trying to sort things out. I believe both Chip and Chicago were in contact with him too, but couldn't reason with him (hence the Bad Trader tag). Given the circumstances: sending $200+ worth of items, then not receiving anything for 11 months and not having a reply the last 3 times I messaged him, I think I was more than fair/patient with Greg... it's actually been causing me a lot of stress and worry.
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Post by Mox on Feb 11, 2018 21:11:44 GMT -5
Throwing my support to Greg here. Dealt with him about five times and every time has been quick and good from both ends with him buying something off me and with him sending me something (for free because he knew I was after it.) Reading the trade thread that was set up here I see where there is some issue seems like there was lack of communication and proper trade threads set up. If there was a trade thread to follow that was set up and then agreed upon by both and then Greg didn't follow on with it, then I could understand, but it seems like there was just some chat in PMs after a history was established. Given that some of the figures mentioned in the linked trade thread being asked for from Greg come as such drastic time differences, we didn't get the Nitro 4 pack or Virgil until like October/November in the States? the Andre and Issac were the mid to late Summer?, but the thread says that it has been 9 months as of December 2017? From my understanding, there was a history established in the way you guys traded that didn't feel it was like I'm sending X for X it seemed open-ended? Gotta say that I can't consider Greg a bad trader, I think this falls under bad communication on both sides, and the lack of a specific trade thread I don't think is fair towards Greg because I can't see anything that says Greg agreed to X and he didn't follow through. Unless I'm wrong then please directly link those trade threads. Greg has always seemed like a helpful and cool dude. Which makes this whole thing so much weirder. It's just shocking to me that nothing could be done to work this out. To somehow modify the deal so that both parties could move on satisfied.
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Post by King Richius on Feb 11, 2018 21:26:03 GMT -5
I see a date with Judge Judy in both of your futures.
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Post by Chicago on Feb 11, 2018 21:48:34 GMT -5
If anything good can come of this, it will be that Chip and I are considering adding a new rule to Classifieds which will hopefully encourage users to make a trade thread as soon as possible and cut back on these exclusively-private dealings. Upon striking a deal with someone via PMs, you'll have 30 days to create a trade thread or else we will not give it consideration. Greg and Steve were an unusual exception and unfortunately it had to happen in order for us to come to this realization that a new rule was needed. For clarification purposes, I just want to say that I did not communicate directly with Greg these past two months. I forwarded messages to Chip and we brainstormed together. It was not an easy decision, but I believe it was one that had to be made. There was not a rule in place to prevent a trade thread from being made, so it was and the process played out as it did. Steve reporting Greg as a possible bad trader and everything that came after was standard procedure. In no way was this a character assassination.
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