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Post by jayrod2009 on Mar 19, 2018 12:24:15 GMT -5
Technically the ECW title was the 2008 version with Purple letters. The real version has less black outlining. I’d like the Shane Douglas version of the world title, TV Title, and tag title. The second World title was a mod of the Wingd Eagle, so it should be fairly sinple. The first set of tag titles were mods of the 90’s IC title. I’m sure there is a way around all this. The TV belt was actually the mod of the Winged Eagle.  But I'm with you on wanting the second generation ECW World Championship. One of my favorite designs ever.  Ah It was the TV title. I remember Taz wearing it, but i also think I confuse it with the 90’s OSFT figures. |
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Post by jerm on Mar 19, 2018 12:37:20 GMT -5
Ah It was the TV title. I remember Taz wearing it, but i also think I confuse it with the 90’s OSFT figures. Yeah, Taz had the black TV, then a custom-name orange TV:  which was later modified into the first FTW belt:  And yeah, while Taz only held the last version of the ECW world belt (both the black logo/black globe/orange lettering and purple logo/blue globe/red lettering variations), those OSFTM toys were packaged with the previous generation of belts. |
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Post by drifter on Mar 19, 2018 14:03:42 GMT -5
Technically the ECW title was the 2008 version with Purple letters. The real version has less black outlining. I’d like the Shane Douglas version of the world title, TV Title, and tag title. The second World title was a mod of the Wingd Eagle, so it should be fairly sinple. The first set of tag titles were mods of the 90’s IC title. I’m sure there is a way around all this. The TV belt was actually the mod of the Winged Eagle. But I'm with you on wanting the second generation ECW World Championship. One of my favorite designs ever. That ECW World Title, is still one of my favorites to this day. It's too bad Mattel didn't have the rights to use it, because that last Terry Funk figure didn't seem right, coming with the belt he never held. |
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Post by jerm on Mar 19, 2018 14:30:28 GMT -5
That ECW World Title, is still one of my favorites to this day. It's too bad Mattel didn't have the rights to use it, because that last Terry Funk figure didn't seem right, coming with the belt he never held. Yeah, Funk looks incredibly off with that belt. |
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Post by wheeljack83 on Mar 19, 2018 16:46:41 GMT -5
I honestly would luv to see a defining moments one day of Lance Storm and all the Canadian versions. I like the cut of your jib wwetna2008. |
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Post by wheeljack83 on Sept 2, 2018 22:02:33 GMT -5
I just picked up WCW Ron Simmons, and the 1990s WCW world title accessory is awesome. We definitely need more classic WCW title belt accessory designs.
I have a question though. The WCW Cruiserweight title, the real one, is pictured in the box art for the figures. Does that mean Mattel has the rights to use that design?
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Sept 2, 2018 22:50:27 GMT -5
I really hope we get more WCW belts.
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Post by qdogg on Sept 2, 2018 23:58:07 GMT -5
We need the US, TV and World tag team WCW belts
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Post by 666erickana on Sept 3, 2018 5:32:57 GMT -5
Wcw tag team title
Usa wcw tag team title
6 men wcw tag team title
Cruiser wcw tag team title
wcw women title
wcw hardcore title
wcw cruiser title
Wcw light title
wcw canadian title
Wcw tv title
wwf women tag team title
wwf green world title (backlund, sheik, hogan)
wwf green inter title (tito, valentine)
Wwf world titlw 87 (andre)
Wwf light title (red strap)
wwf blue inter 93 (hbk)
Wwe green title 2018 g.royalrumble (strowman)
ecw tv title
ecw tag team title
ecw ftw title (taz)
I think its all the betls that we dont have.
if mattel can do a green strap ,,it will be quite easy to create, with already plates thwt they have
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Post by PJ on Sept 3, 2018 7:52:13 GMT -5
I would love the WCW United States Championship for Sting.
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Post by Sting on Sept 3, 2018 9:15:28 GMT -5
We need the US, TV and World tag team WCW belts These would be perfect. |
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Post by 666erickana on Sept 3, 2018 11:58:22 GMT -5
Its on the list
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Post by disorder on Sept 3, 2018 13:52:29 GMT -5
wwe doesn’t own the rights to the winged eagle, classic ic, old wcw belts, classic tags. That’s why wwe went and changed belt makers in the beginning of the attitude era, cause Reggie parks didn’t want wwe to own the rights to those designs, which is why Millican and parks could still make those old school designs for collectors, just can’t use the wwf logo. All the new designs after the attitude era on, wwe owns the designs and rights to. I misspoke. According to someone close to the situation, they have the rights to use all those titles. Not saying that Parks, Millican, and Mann don't still hold the right to the designs, just that the WWE is allowed to use them under the current arrangement. You'll notice that the WCW World, US, old Tag, new Tag, Cruiserweight, and Hardcore titles are all in WWE 2K18... and that the WCW Cruiserweight Title was pictured with HOC Eddie Guerrero, despite him being packed incorrectly with the WWE Cruiserweight Title. Why they choose not to allow Mattel to use the WCW belts to be pack in items is a mystery. It’s not a mystery. Wwe don’t own the rights, it’s as simple as that. They can show images with the belt, because they own the image. They can’t replicate it in anyway without some sort of licensing agreement. 2k have the ability to get rights and contracts for stars or belts not owned by wwe. That’s why you’ll see stars in the game, with no working wwe relationship. You are straight up talking out of your ass or were told wrong info. |
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Sept 3, 2018 14:01:46 GMT -5
I misspoke. According to someone close to the situation, they have the rights to use all those titles. Not saying that Parks, Millican, and Mann don't still hold the right to the designs, just that the WWE is allowed to use them under the current arrangement. You'll notice that the WCW World, US, old Tag, new Tag, Cruiserweight, and Hardcore titles are all in WWE 2K18... and that the WCW Cruiserweight Title was pictured with HOC Eddie Guerrero, despite him being packed incorrectly with the WWE Cruiserweight Title. Why they choose not to allow Mattel to use the WCW belts to be pack in items is a mystery. It’s not a mystery. Wwe don’t own the rights, it’s as simple as that. They can show images with the belt, because they own the image. They can’t replicate it in anyway without some sort of licensing agreement. 2k have the ability to get rights and contracts for stars or belts not owned by wwe. That’s why you’ll see stars in the game, with no working wwe relationship. You are straight up talking out of your ass or were told wrong info. The WWE does indeed have the rights to use all of the Parks, Millican, and Mann WCW belts. I know that for a fact. I do not know, however, what price tag that comes with, entirely which belts it includes, or if there are existing restrictions on making figure versions of those belts. I'd assume that the TV title is not one of the belts they made, as it's not in the 2k games, but that's just a guess. Also.. I can't imagine there are different copyright laws for a 3D and a printed version of intellectual property.. But that's also a guess. Not sure what the hold up is.. but I know it isn't the rights from the belt designers. It's somewhere past that point... so WWE, a money issue, or an issue where things were licensed improperly. |
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Post by disorder on Sept 3, 2018 14:49:41 GMT -5
It’s not a mystery. Wwe don’t own the rights, it’s as simple as that. They can show images with the belt, because they own the image. They can’t replicate it in anyway without some sort of licensing agreement. 2k have the ability to get rights and contracts for stars or belts not owned by wwe. That’s why you’ll see stars in the game, with no working wwe relationship. You are straight up talking out of your ass or were told wrong info. The WWE does indeed have the rights to use all of the Parks, Millican, and Mann WCW belts. I know that for a fact. I do not know, however, what price tag that comes with, entirely which belts it includes, or if there are existing restrictions on making figure versions of those belts. I'd assume that the TV title is not one of the belts they made, as it's not in the 2k games, but that's just a guess. Also.. I can't imagine there are different copyright laws for a 3D and a printed version of intellectual property.. But that's also a guess. Not sure what the hold up is.. but I know it isn't the rights from the belt designers. It's somewhere past that point... so WWE, a money issue, or an issue where things were licensed improperly. Mattel have said time and time again, they use what and who wwe have the rights for. Wwe may have the right to showcase the titles, but certainly not full rights to the designs. And again..the games have nothing to do with what wwe owns. It’s been made clear to us so many times that the game companies have a different contract than mattel and could reach out to use likenesses of who ever and whatever they deem necessary |
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Sept 3, 2018 14:56:03 GMT -5
The WWE does indeed have the rights to use all of the Parks, Millican, and Mann WCW belts. I know that for a fact. I do not know, however, what price tag that comes with, entirely which belts it includes, or if there are existing restrictions on making figure versions of those belts. I'd assume that the TV title is not one of the belts they made, as it's not in the 2k games, but that's just a guess. Also.. I can't imagine there are different copyright laws for a 3D and a printed version of intellectual property.. But that's also a guess. Not sure what the hold up is.. but I know it isn't the rights from the belt designers. It's somewhere past that point... so WWE, a money issue, or an issue where things were licensed improperly. Mattel have said time and time again, they use what and who wwe have the rights for. Wwe may have the right to showcase the titles, but certainly not full rights to the designs. And again..the games have nothing to do with what wwe owns. It’s been made clear to us so many times that the game companies have a different contract than mattel and could reach out to use likenesses of who ever and whatever they deem necessary That's true... but when I brought this specific issue up to an acquaintance of mine who's intimately familiar with the situation, I was told point blank that the ball is in the WWE's court on that one, because the belt makers have signed off on them using the WCW belts for games, replicas, action figures and "whatever else". This leads me to believe that the hold up is somewhere else. It's also POSSIBLE that the WWE itself doesn't want the WCW titles put out there, for whatever reason. I wish there was a way to get a straight answer on this.. because every time one of us had tried to find out, we're pointed in a different direction. |
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Post by disorder on Sept 3, 2018 23:03:09 GMT -5
Mattel have said time and time again, they use what and who wwe have the rights for. Wwe may have the right to showcase the titles, but certainly not full rights to the designs. And again..the games have nothing to do with what wwe owns. It’s been made clear to us so many times that the game companies have a different contract than mattel and could reach out to use likenesses of who ever and whatever they deem necessary That's true... but when I brought this specific issue up to an acquaintance of mine who's intimately familiar with the situation, I was told point blank that the ball is in the WWE's court on that one, because the belt makers have signed off on them using the WCW belts for games, replicas, action figures and "whatever else". This leads me to believe that the hold up is somewhere else. It's also POSSIBLE that the WWE itself doesn't want the WCW titles put out there, for whatever reason. I wish there was a way to get a straight answer on this.. because every time one of us had tried to find out, we're pointed in a different direction. again...the games are a complete different entity and they do it all on their own. Mattel have stated before, it’s because wwe do not have the rights. Why wouldn’t wwe want to make money off of something? That makes no sense. Unless you heard this from a belt maker, your acquaintance is blowing air up your ass or you’re making up unnecessary rumors. |
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Post by Blackbird 13 on Sept 3, 2018 23:14:02 GMT -5
That's true... but when I brought this specific issue up to an acquaintance of mine who's intimately familiar with the situation, I was told point blank that the ball is in the WWE's court on that one, because the belt makers have signed off on them using the WCW belts for games, replicas, action figures and "whatever else". This leads me to believe that the hold up is somewhere else. It's also POSSIBLE that the WWE itself doesn't want the WCW titles put out there, for whatever reason. I wish there was a way to get a straight answer on this.. because every time one of us had tried to find out, we're pointed in a different direction. again...the games are a complete different entity and they do it all on their own. Mattel have stated before, it’s because wwe do not have the rights. Why wouldn’t wwe want to make money off of something? That makes no sense. Unless you heard this from a belt maker, your acquaintance is blowing air up your ass or you’re making up unnecessary rumors. Without giving away too much.. the person that told me about this has intimate familiarity with the situation between the belt makers and WWE. That person has told me that they don't know about any other rights issues beyond that... and quite frankly, didn't seem to care beyond that, because all of that is "beyond his pay grade", so to speak. That isn't to say there isn't some other issue with the belts that causes the WWE to not have the rights to reproduce them.. but as far as the belt makers are concerned, the WWE has the rights to use them in accordance with the signed agreement. |
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Post by erikg on Sept 3, 2018 23:23:13 GMT -5
Vince gets all funny about the WCW stuff sometimes. He probably is the one holding them up.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Sept 7, 2018 1:49:00 GMT -5
OK so then what's the agreement to use the early 1990s WCW world title?
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