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Post by punksnotdead on May 11, 2018 11:56:24 GMT -5
While I think Cass is a giant waste of time and energy, I think this sounds entirely made up. Seems like it's from the Meltzer playbook of molding an explanation around a series of events we saw happen on TV. Even if this were true, Cass' only mistake was asking for permission instead of forgiveness. I have zero issue with guys fighting for more but if they tell you no, twice, you can't turn around and go do what you want. Go do what you want and play dumb and apologize afterwards. The shows are ing awful right now. They need wrestlers actively looking for ways to improve the angles. You can't let the inmates run the asylum, but you also don't want guys who are afraid to become stars. Seems pretty simple that they want him to hit the boot, stand firm and not waste his time exerting more energy. After watching the segment his 'grabbing the brass ring' by beating up on a little guy doesn't add heat, it just looks stupid. Would he do it to someone of standard size? Maybe. Far be it from me to criticize a wrestler for in ring work/improvisation but when a simple segment has simple directions (especially on SmackDown which no one is watching) why not just follow them? Grab your brass ring at a more sensible time. You can't make those decisions unless you're thinking smart and clearly on that stage it takes time until you're trusted to think smart. Making a decision like that doesn't help the case so it wouldn't surprise me if there is truth to the news. Yeah, and that's the other side to this story. It's Big Cass. It's not like 1996 Shawn Michaels out there with 10 legit years of experience throwing out the playbook to do what he thinks is best. CM Punk said it best. You have to pick your hill to die on and this shouldn't have been it for Cass.
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 11, 2018 12:02:49 GMT -5
If you look at the clip on WWE’s YouTube, they edited out that entire part. It ends with him doing the big boot. Of course WWE cuts the match’s segements but they ALWAYS show the ending.
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Post by RSCTom on May 11, 2018 12:58:51 GMT -5
If you look at the clip on WWE’s YouTube, they edited out that entire part. It ends with him doing the big boot. Of course WWE cuts the match’s segements but they ALWAYS show the ending. I think this speaks volumes because it's for sure not the first time they've done something like that!
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 11, 2018 13:06:30 GMT -5
If you look at the clip on WWE’s YouTube, they edited out that entire part. It ends with him doing the big boot. Of course WWE cuts the match’s segements but they ALWAYS show the ending. I think this speaks volumes because it's for sure not the first time they've done something like that! They always show how segments end on their channel, especially beat downs. So it’s a coincidence that he does that, they proceed to not include it in the segment upload on YT, Cass loses rather easily to Bryan and taps out very easily, then is not on Smackdown the following week. Sometimes reports are trash but other times they seem plausible
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Post by havoc7179 on May 11, 2018 15:16:10 GMT -5
If so, if he is punished, they wouldn’t have allowed a beat down of Daniel Bryan following his backlash match.
Logic.
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Post by tylerbreezee on May 11, 2018 15:26:12 GMT -5
If so, if he is punished, they wouldn’t have allowed a beat down of Daniel Bryan following his backlash match. Logic. If Orton was punished (Which he actually was for drugs) leading up to Mania 22, he wouldn’t have won the tag team match at Saturday Nights Main event. Logic? Right?
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Post by Rude Awakening on May 11, 2018 15:36:50 GMT -5
Dirt sheets love to stir the pot and get everyone talking and questioning
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Post by FUSamBaker on May 11, 2018 19:14:01 GMT -5
I think we all need to admit that Carmella is, and will forever be, the breakout star of the trio. Enzo was terrible, Cass has zero personality and in ring skill. Carmella is still a bit rough at times but she has talent. Cass is gross
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on May 11, 2018 19:22:48 GMT -5
I think we all need to admit that Carmella is, and will forever be, the breakout star of the trio. Enzo was terrible, Cass has zero personality and in ring skill. Carmella is still a bit rough at times but she has talent. Cass is gross Despite the enzo situation, that's what stopped him from being the breakout star of the group. Carmella is the break out star of the group by default because Big Cass has and always will be the worst of the trio. If enzo were still around he would be the breakout star. He was fantastic in the mic, oozed charisma, just needed to improve in the ring some more.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 19:36:00 GMT -5
I think we all need to admit that Carmella is, and will forever be, the breakout star of the trio. Enzo was terrible, Cass has zero personality and in ring skill. Carmella is still a bit rough at times but she has talent. Cass is gross Despite the enzo situation, that's what stopped him from being the breakout star of the group. Carmella is the break out star of the group by default because Big Cass has and always will be the worst of the trio. If enzo were still around he would be the breakout star. He was fantastic in the mic, oozed charisma, just needed to improve in the ring some more. I absolutely hated Enzo, but I wont disagree. If he was still here, he would still be on top on 205 live. He was a heat magnet on that show. He could talk no doubt.
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Post by finnbalor1 on May 11, 2018 22:12:37 GMT -5
Hate it for the little guy that got beat up but he got Big Cass off our TVs so thank you little guy.
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Post by Angel Beast on May 12, 2018 8:07:24 GMT -5
Give time and Vince will be like “I love that you take initiative Cass.” Cause that’s how it’s seems with Vince according to guys like Jericho.
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on May 12, 2018 14:46:13 GMT -5
I think we all need to admit that Carmella is, and will forever be, the breakout star of the trio. Enzo was terrible, Cass has zero personality and in ring skill. Carmella is still a bit rough at times but she has talent. Cass is gross It would do wonders (and still wouldn't take any shine off of her) for Cass if they hooked them up as his valet on TV as well as being on her own in the women's division.
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Post by Decky on May 12, 2018 19:16:12 GMT -5
Wonder if they also told him to keep raising his dumb arm every time he hit a move during the Backlash match against Bryan? I've never been more annoyed in my life. That earned ALL the heat he'll ever need from me. It really annoyed me too.
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Post by Escape The Rules on May 13, 2018 16:59:54 GMT -5
What a buffoon.
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Post by havoc7179 on May 14, 2018 8:42:39 GMT -5
If so, if he is punished, they wouldn’t have allowed a beat down of Daniel Bryan following his backlash match. Logic. If Orton was punished (Which he actually was for drugs) leading up to Mania 22, he wouldn’t have won the tag team match at Saturday Nights Main event. Logic? Right? Fact: "Orton had been suspended twice by the company in 2006; in April and in August. Orton's suspension in April 2006 was for 60 days for "unprofessional conduct." Orton apparently openly rolled a marijuana joint backstage at a SmackDown taping in late March of that year, a week prior to WrestleMania. Bruce Prichard found out about the incident and reported it to management. Orton was apparently already in hot water at that point over past infractions prior to the Wellness Policy being put in place, and that action was said to have been the straw that broke the camel's back. While suspended, Orton spent four weeks at an anger management clinic in Atlanta, GA. This apparently did not count as a Wellness Policy violation because the company didn't test for marijuana at the time, and the suspension was viewed more as a conduct violation." Source: www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/0530/553054/randy-orton/Fact: "Orton was suspended for 60 days on April 3, 2006 for “unprofessional conduct,” which did not count as a Wellness Program infraction. He discussed the suspension during an interview published in the September 2006 issue of WWE Magazine." www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/major-update-randy-orton-s-suspension-historyFact: John Cena and Triple H beat the HANDICAPPED TEAM OF RANDY ORTON and Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio after pinning RANDY ORTON. "HHH/John Cena vs. Randy Orton/Rey Mysterio/Kurt Angle This is Raw’s main event vs. Smackdown’s main event. That’s not terrible but there’s no realistic way that Smackdown can lose. Cena gets some hearty boos for his troubles. The remix of Rey’s music SUCKS. Cena and Orton start us off. Feel the shock! There’s a ton of smoke in the arena which makes it kind of hard to see. HHH and Angle is a big match that I would have liked to see get more time. More or less this is just a way to get each combination of all five guys including arguing between each other. The crowd boos the heck out of Rey vs. Cena which is kind of odd. HHH and Cena argue their way into a commercial. HHH and Mysterio fight WAY too long for a multi-man match. Cena makes the Superman run and the fans openly boo. As he goes off, naturally HHH Pedigrees him. He does the same to Rey though just to be fair. And Orton takes out Angle. No one seems to care about any of this mind you. We’re left with Cena and Orton and Cena rolls him up for the pin. That was the definition of a mess at the end there." kbwrestlingreviews.com/2013/03/18/on-this-day-march-18-2006-saturday-nights-main-event-32-its-back/Fact: Wrestlemania 22 Rey Mysterio pins Randy Orton Fact: You fail. Fact: I win. TLDR? Nothing Breezee said was remotely true in trying to one up me on my logic. Research is your friend. Just saying. All I'm saying is that they wouldn't look to make Cass stand tall if there was heat on him by having him pummel Daniel Bryan after his Backlash match. So, to answer his question: "If Orton was punished (Which he actually was for drugs) leading up to Mania 22, he wouldn’t have won the tag team match at Saturday Nights Main event. Logic? Right?" He didn't wint he tag team match, so he was punished.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on May 17, 2018 11:01:04 GMT -5
With the egos in WWE his career is dead. He's going to future endeavored. Who's that? That's Big Colin in the impact zone!!!!! Large Colin*
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Post by J12 on May 17, 2018 14:05:57 GMT -5
Evidently there wound up being something to this. WWE doesn't let undersized babyfaces completely humiliate big, dominant heels without an agenda, even if they were also trying to elevate Bryan. It seems pretty clear that Cass is being moved to a back burner.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on May 17, 2018 15:39:04 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear that Cass is being moved to a back burner. Hopefully Jinder and Jordan can get heat also.
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Post by bad guy™ on May 17, 2018 16:45:40 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear that Cass is being moved to a back burner. Hopefully Jinder and Jordan can get heat also. Don't you hinder Jinder dammit.
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