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Post by The Brain on Jun 20, 2018 15:43:01 GMT -5
I know it will never happen but man I would love a King of Harts figure with crown, scepter,and cape...
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 20, 2018 17:14:38 GMT -5
I know it will never happen but man I would love a King of Harts figure with crown, scepter,and cape...
Me too. Would also like a New Foundation Set
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Post by vampiro666 on Jun 20, 2018 18:36:15 GMT -5
He was supposed to be the defining moments figure that got cancelled a few years ago and it kinda makes sense now with all the chase slammy awards that was put into the basic line after that happened Why would he have been the canceled DM? He’s been off limited since before Mattel even had the license. So why would Bill have his team waste time and money on a figure he knew since day one they couldn’t make? That makes no sense. Has Bill ever publicly stated that Owen was the canceled figure? Because I don’t recall that. exactly that's why it makes perfect sense he was going to be the 4th it was around the timeframe of the owen dvd being released and he probably figured that since the dvd was coming out he could make the figure for the first time since 99 then found out after it was ready to come out that they couldn't release it. that's why he wouldn't mention who it was he only said that after it was produced he found out he didn't have the rights to release it and said nothing else about it after.but all the clues of it being him are there think about it yoko with both tag belts was released around that time also then all the slammy awards that showed up for like 5 or 6 basic series
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Post by PJ on Jun 20, 2018 19:05:36 GMT -5
Why would he have been the canceled DM? He’s been off limited since before Mattel even had the license. So why would Bill have his team waste time and money on a figure he knew since day one they couldn’t make? That makes no sense. Has Bill ever publicly stated that Owen was the canceled figure? Because I don’t recall that. exactly that's why it makes perfect sense he was going to be the 4th it was around the timeframe of the owen dvd being released and he probably figured that since the dvd was coming out he could make the figure for the first time since 99 then found out after it was ready to come out that they couldn't release it. that's why he wouldn't mention who it was he only said that after it was produced he found out he didn't have the rights to release it and said nothing else about it after.but all the clues of it being him are there think about it yoko with both tag belts was released around that time also then all the slammy awards that showed up for like 5 or 6 basic series Bill says all the time that games & media content aren’t the same thing as figures...so why would he have thought it would then? You are just speculating. The reason he couldn’t mention who the fourth was is the same reason he doesn’t say who is in any line until they show the prototypes because he legally can’t or he can be fired for breaking the confidentiality contract they sign.
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Post by stc13 on Jun 20, 2018 19:06:38 GMT -5
Why would he have been the canceled DM? He’s been off limited since before Mattel even had the license. So why would Bill have his team waste time and money on a figure he knew since day one they couldn’t make? That makes no sense. Has Bill ever publicly stated that Owen was the canceled figure? Because I don’t recall that. exactly that's why it makes perfect sense he was going to be the 4th it was around the timeframe of the owen dvd being released and he probably figured that since the dvd was coming out he could make the figure for the first time since 99 then found out after it was ready to come out that they couldn't release it. that's why he wouldn't mention who it was he only said that after it was produced he found out he didn't have the rights to release it and said nothing else about it after.but all the clues of it being him are there think about it yoko with both tag belts was released around that time also then all the slammy awards that showed up for like 5 or 6 basic series There's some evidence that WWE and the Hart estate were close to some kind of licensing agreement. A number of Owen's signature moves (sitout tombstone, woo taunt) were added to the game, and there are arenas missing from the game's internal naming system that would match up with places where Owen would have appeared in the game, with other wrestlers in match-specific attires that match up to those events. There's a good chance a licensing deal was making some progress, and WWE gave the heads-up to 2K and Mattel, two of their biggest partners, to get working on including Hart in their upcoming product lines to capitalize on a big money maker. Clearly something fell through with negotiations, or WWE misread what they thought was positive progress. But the late and less than inspired substitutions in the DM line clearly signal that something changed very late in the game. 2K's game would have been on a similar timeline, so I think it's safe to say someone at WWE gave their partners the go-ahead to start production on Hart. Odds are we'll never hear the full story, and it's not something that would be in anyone's best interest to confirm if this was what happened. But maybe some day we'll actually get Owen figures in hand.
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Post by PJ on Jun 20, 2018 20:25:37 GMT -5
Isn’t that the year the Hogan controversy happened? Bill had to push the last two DM up because the Hollywood Hogan was being pulled. I don’t think it had anything to do with Owen. I don’t think there’s ever been any movement between the WWE and Martha. That was around the time of her lawsuit trying to haunt the WWE using their media content of Owen on the Network and on DVD’s. The WWE won that, but that has nothing to do with merchandise like figures. So with the lawsuit going on I don’t see how the WWE or anyone at Mattel would think Martha would agreeable to signing a contract for an Owen figure to be made. That makes zero sense to me.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 20, 2018 20:38:51 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty much confirmed that the DM was suppose to be Dude Love but his on again off again Legends deal threw a wrench in it. Its the perfect figure for Mattel to make a DM because of the deco hits they could charge more for it.
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Post by 666erickana on Jun 20, 2018 21:09:10 GMT -5
One of these days, the childs of owen will have the control, and then im sure we gonna get figs of owen....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 11:03:20 GMT -5
It's a shame but it's never going to happen. The WWE is the reason she doesn't have a husband, the reason his kids have no dad
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Post by Sting on Jun 22, 2018 12:50:56 GMT -5
One of these days, the childs of owen will have the control, and then im sure we gonna get figs of owen.... Hopefully so.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 22, 2018 15:23:57 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty much confirmed that the DM was suppose to be Dude Love but his on again off again Legends deal threw a wrench in it. Its the perfect figure for Mattel to make a DM because of the deco hits they could charge more for it. I don't think it was confirmed but Dude Love does make sense. I always assumed it was Dude or Piper who was just recently fired over podcast beef with Stone Cold and WWE took Austin's side.
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Post by Vamp55 on Jun 23, 2018 4:55:44 GMT -5
It is very sad for us as fans to not be able to celebrate Owen the way we would like. I guess it is dangous to try and understand the grief or feelings she holds towards WWE or Wrestling in general - none of us have walked in her shoes, probably not really our place to comment. I do hope she has/does find peace
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jun 24, 2018 21:24:42 GMT -5
I loved Owen. I’ll never forget how I felt when he passed. I’ve been wishing for him to be celebrated since he passed. Here’s what I’d NEED for my collection
New Foundation /High Energy 93 Rocket blue long tights singlet WM 10 Kotr 94 SS 94 96 tag title reign with Davey (maybe add a removable cast) 97 Hart Foundation (crew cut) Black Hart Danger attire
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 24, 2018 22:10:53 GMT -5
I loved Owen. I’ll never forget how I felt when he passed. I’ve been wishing for him to be celebrated since he passed. Here’s what I’d NEED for my collection New Foundation /High Energy 93 Rocket blue long tights singlet WM 10 Kotr 94 SS 94 96 tag title rein with Davey (maybe add a removable cast) 97 Hart Foundation (crew cut) Black Hart Danger attire I'd buy all of these (well, at least till the 97 hart foundation one). I might but the other two, but depends on how the final product looks. You could separate the New Foundation and High Energy. With High Energy, they wore suspenders, the New Foundation did not. Kind of different.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jun 25, 2018 7:58:28 GMT -5
I loved Owen. I’ll never forget how I felt when he passed. I’ve been wishing for him to be celebrated since he passed. Here’s what I’d NEED for my collection New Foundation /High Energy 93 Rocket blue long tights singlet WM 10 Kotr 94 SS 94 96 tag title rein with Davey (maybe add a removable cast) 97 Hart Foundation (crew cut) Black Hart Danger attire I'd buy all of these (well, at least till the 97 hart foundation one). I might but the other two, but depends on how the final product looks. You could separate the New Foundation and High Energy. With High Energy, they wore suspenders, the New Foundation did not. Kind of different. They should make him with the removable IRS suspenders so we could have it both ways!
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 26, 2018 10:53:36 GMT -5
These threads always make me sad, really for so many reasons. Sad because we'll never get a figure. Sad because Martha is filled with so much hate and resentment. Sad that future generations don't get the level of exposure to his talent that should have been carried on after he passed away. Sad that Martha has isolated her children from the Hart family and their wrestling legacy. Ultimately, still just sad we lost him. I'm also sad I've given up hope that a figure will ever happen or that Martha will ever be at peace with WWE. I just truly feel their relationship is unrepairable.
I haven't watched the Owen tribute Raw since it happened. I have it recorded on VHS, but I was never able to put in and watch it again. To this day, I remember trying to watch Triple H and Chyna talk about Owen and I absolutely lost it. I still feel that feeling when I see pictures of him from time-to-time. I think about him when I see Jerry Lawler and Jeff Jarrett, too. When I see him in the ring again, though, he's alive. He's got that sh*t eating grin and he's a wizard moving around the ring, and it makes you forget we lost him. I just wish Martha could experience that feeling. Hiding from his accomplishments doesn't make him any less dead but cherishing the moments he gave us in front of the camera is what keeps him alive.
My son is going to learn about Owen Hart. He's also going to learn about not carrying around hate in his heart.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jun 26, 2018 15:07:13 GMT -5
I'll never say never. Jeff Jarret, Warrior and Goldberg returned.
I still have HIGH hopes that it will happen.
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Post by LA Times on Jun 26, 2018 17:04:16 GMT -5
One of these days, the childs of owen will have the control, and then im sure we gonna get figs of owen.... Arent they like 30 now?
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 27, 2018 23:45:52 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty much confirmed that the DM was suppose to be Dude Love but his on again off again Legends deal threw a wrench in it. Its the perfect figure for Mattel to make a DM because of the deco hits they could charge more for it. I don't think it was confirmed but Dude Love does make sense. I always assumed it was Dude or Piper who was just recently fired over podcast beef with Stone Cold and WWE took Austin's side. Yeah I always thought it was suppose to be Dude Love too
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 27, 2018 23:47:05 GMT -5
I would buy one but its not a huge want of mine but I'll be happy for everybody that wants one.
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