drnickriviera995
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 12, 2018 8:54:12 GMT -5
So I've often wondered, had Hasbro/WWF agreed to do a fuller roster of figs out the gate, more like the 91' set. With 12 singles plus 4 tag team packs planned, what other guys would have been likely made?
Now, I would guess Demolition and Twin Towers would be done as 2 packs, leaving for 4 more singles stars and 2 more tag teams.
Being how they typically ran close to a year behind what was actually going on in the company, I'd guess they would be based on the roster around mid 1989.
A few options for tag teams would be:
Brain Busters, Powers of Pain, and Hart Foundation seem like the teams around the top of the ranks. Not sure if the Brain Busters would have been around lone enough though, so not sure if they would have made the cut. Also around were the Rogues, Rockers, and Bushwackers.
And then for singles they had Tito, Martel, Hercules, Zeus, Snuka, Bravo, Haku, Bad News Brown and others as options.
Who would have been made in all likelihood? Assuming 2 more tag teams and 4 more singles.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 12, 2018 10:59:18 GMT -5
I think you have the right guys. It seemed like they started designing the figures around WM5, if you look at the first set the figures match who they were feuding with at the time. Hogan vs Macho, Jake vs. Andre, Warrior vs. Rude, and Dibiase vs. Brutus were all WM 5 matches, and Demolition vs. the Twin Towers started feuding in April of 89 and continued through the summer. So, If I had to pick, I think Model and Tito would have been most likely since they were feuding at that time. Zeus, Hercules, Snuka, Bravo, Hammer, Honky, Perfect all would have been likely choices during that time. Ronnie Garvin, Bad News Brown, Red Rooster, Haku, all could have been made at that time but these seemed to be less likely because they weren't in any feuds at the time. The only other tag teams in the WWF at that time that weren't made in the first series were the Hart Foundation, Powers of Pain, Bolsheviks, Rougeau Brothers, Bushwhackers, Rockers, and the Brain Busters. Not sure the Brain Busters would have been likely since they left the WWF in late 1989 before the line hit the shelves. If I had to choose, for singles, I would have go with Tito Santana (white tights), Rick Martel (blue tights), Hercules (blue tights), and Dino Bravo, though, a Garvin and/or Zeus would have been cool. For tag teams, I would have to go with the Hart Foundation and the Powers of Pain.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 13:35:56 GMT -5
I salivate at the thought of a Zeus figure. I don't know what it is, but I find his character so amazing. I love watching his match against Abdullah the Butcher in Puerto Rico in 1990. Yeah I know, it's not the greatest "match", but damn the styles clash of those two is a huge reason why I love this business
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Jun 12, 2018 13:43:06 GMT -5
when you look at who Hasbro didn't make, they're predominantly heels. Dino Bravo, The Barbarian, Haku, Bad News Brown, Hercules, Paul Roma, The Beverly Brothers. all heels and with the exception of Barbarian's entrance gear, all rather plain heels. There were full cases of series 1 Hogan shipped to stores and yet, he didn't warm shelves. IRS & The Mountie warmed shelves, because the casual child fan didn't want heels, and Hasbro knew this.
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Post by ozz on Jun 12, 2018 20:12:15 GMT -5
when you look at who Hasbro didn't make, they're predominantly heels. Dino Bravo, The Barbarian, Haku, Bad News Brown, Hercules, Paul Roma, The Beverly Brothers. all heels and with the exception of Barbarian's entrance gear, all rather plain heels. There were full cases of series 1 Hogan shipped to stores and yet, he didn't warm shelves. IRS & The Mountie warmed shelves, because the casual child fan didn't want heels, and Hasbro knew this. Not midcard-at-best heels, at least. Gotta have some good heels for Hulk and Warrior to kick the crap out of, after all! I went for pretty much everybody but the average or casual fan likely wouldn't have, as you say.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 13, 2018 0:30:28 GMT -5
when you look at who Hasbro didn't make, they're predominantly heels. Dino Bravo, The Barbarian, Haku, Bad News Brown, Hercules, Paul Roma, The Beverly Brothers. all heels and with the exception of Barbarian's entrance gear, all rather plain heels. There were full cases of series 1 Hogan shipped to stores and yet, he didn't warm shelves. IRS & The Mountie warmed shelves, because the casual child fan didn't want heels, and Hasbro knew this. Not midcard-at-best heels, at least. Gotta have some good heels for Hulk and Warrior to kick the crap out of, after all! I went for pretty much everybody but the average or casual fan likely wouldn't have, as you say. I never really noticed if they released more heels than faces. I know S1 was dead even, as stated above, you had 6 faces along with the heel they were feuding with primarally. I was a completionist too so bought everyone. I remember it being pretty hard to find certain heels too, especially Andre, Macho King, Nasty Boys, Demolition 2-pack spring to mind right away.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 13, 2018 6:04:42 GMT -5
I was thinking about lineups while bored at work last night, and counted out heels/faces ratios and realized 1991 and 1992 were very heavy on faces. But then oddly 93' is almost 2/3 heel. It seems to be in favor of faces again in 94' though. Intresting to think about.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 13, 2018 7:58:38 GMT -5
I was thinking about lineups while bored at work last night, and counted out heels/faces ratios and realized 1991 and 1992 were very heavy on faces. But then oddly 93' is almost 2/3 heel. It seems to be in favor of faces again in 94' though. Intresting to think about. I would say they were pretty even throughout, total was 50 faces to 46 heels, early series had more face and later series had a few more heels. Below is the breakdown by series (going by the standard 11 series rundowns): Series 1: 6 Faces (Hogan, Warrior, Brutus, Jake, Ax, Smash) / 6 Heels (Savage, Andre, DiBiase, Rude, Bossman, Akeem) Series 2: 10 Faces (Hogan, Warrior, Piper, Dusty, Hacksaw, Snuka, Marty, Shawn, Butch, Luke) / 5 Heels (Savage, DiBiase, Honky Tonk, Smash, Crush) * would have been six heels if R&B Valentine was released Series 3: 8 Faces (Hogan, Warrior, Tornado, Brutus, Koko, Boss Man, Animal, Hawk) / 8 Heels (Savage, Sarge, Perfect, Hammer, Quake, Typhoon, Knobbs, Sags) * would have been 9 faces and 7 heels if Tugboat was released instead of Typhoon Series 4: 3 Faces (Bret, Bulldog, Dragon) / 1 Heel (Taker) Series 5: 5 Faces (Hogan, Macho, Virgil, Anvil, Sid) / 5 Heels (Mountie, Model, Warlord, Skinner, Irs) * I consider Sid a face because he is wearing his blue tights, wore black tights after he turned heel Series 6: 2 Faces (Tito, Tatanka) / 4 Heels (Flair, Repo Man, Berzerker, Papa Shango) Series 7: 2 Faces (Owen, Crush) / 4 Heels (Razor, Shawn, Kamala, Nailz) Series 8: 3 Faces (Hitman, Perfect, Taker) / 3 Heels (Luger, Bam Bam, Yoko) Series 9: 4 Faces (Rick, Scott, Tatanka, Hacksaw) / 2 Heels (DiBiase, Doink) * would have stayed the same count if Mega Maniacs Brutus was released instead of Tatanka Series 10: 4 Faces (Razor, Marty, Butch, Luke) / 4 Heels (Shawn, Giant Gonzalez, Fatu, Samu) Series 11: 3 Faces (123 Kid, Billy, Bart) / 4 Heels (Yoko, Crush, Adam Bomb, Ludvig Borga)
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Post by robbutler01 on Jun 13, 2018 11:58:10 GMT -5
funny thing is ive made customs of all the ones that have been mentioned as I love the Hasbro range of figs and wanted to complete the roster from 88ish - 92/3 (same with wcw galoob figs too)
Even jobbers like Brooklyn brawler would have made a good figure because of his character and appearance - which is why I made him too! I actually made more customs than there were official Hasbro figures!
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Post by juniordaddyo on Jun 15, 2018 5:59:58 GMT -5
funny thing is ive made customs of all the ones that have been mentioned as I love the Hasbro range of figs and wanted to complete the roster from 88ish - 92/3 (same with wcw galoob figs too) Even jobbers like Brooklyn brawler would have made a good figure because of his character and appearance - which is why I made him too! I actually made more customs than there were official Hasbro figures! Be good to see your customs
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 7:14:43 GMT -5
Speaking of heels/faces... It blows my mind that after the push Lex got after KOTR 93 he wasn't rushed into the green card series over Evil Crush or a 2nd Yokozuna.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 15, 2018 13:09:44 GMT -5
Speaking of heels/faces... It blows my mind that after the push Lex got after KOTR 93 he wasn't rushed into the green card series over Evil Crush or a 2nd Yokozuna. Never thought about that, but you're right. They changed Lex in the summer time, crush didn't get changed until October. Now that you mentioned it, it is a little surprising that Lex wasn't rushed in but crush was. You would think that Lex would have been a better choice to help sell the line.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 16:22:33 GMT -5
Speaking of heels/faces... It blows my mind that after the push Lex got after KOTR 93 he wasn't rushed into the green card series over Evil Crush or a 2nd Yokozuna. Never thought about that, but you're right. They changed Lex in the summer time, crush didn't get changed until October. Now that you mentioned it, it is a little surprising that Lex wasn't rushed in but crush was. You would think that Lex would have been a better choice to help sell the line. He was on the cusp of being the face of the company at that time. Utterly bizarre that it didn't happen!
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jun 16, 2018 0:58:44 GMT -5
Never thought about that, but you're right. They changed Lex in the summer time, crush didn't get changed until October. Now that you mentioned it, it is a little surprising that Lex wasn't rushed in but crush was. You would think that Lex would have been a better choice to help sell the line. He was on the cusp of being the face of the company at that time. Utterly bizarre that it didn't happen! I never thought of that either! Would have been way cooler than the Yokozuna repaint, and they both had figs in the red series. I do love Evil Crush though, so glad they made him. But would take Luger over either guy. And yeah, bizaar how he ascended and then descended so fast. I prefered Bret as champion at WMX, but I don't think Luger should have been dropped down the card as far as he was. I was really into the Allied Powers too, wished they would have gotten the tag straps from Yoko and Owen.
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Post by robbutler01 on Jun 16, 2018 6:44:46 GMT -5
funny thing is ive made customs of all the ones that have been mentioned as I love the Hasbro range of figs and wanted to complete the roster from 88ish - 92/3 (same with wcw galoob figs too) Even jobbers like Brooklyn brawler would have made a good figure because of his character and appearance - which is why I made him too! I actually made more customs than there were official Hasbro figures! Be good to see your customs Thanks I've tried to get them on here but its a nightmare so you can always look up my Instagram account- rb's retro wrestling as I post my customs, recreate big scenes and my other collection buts too if your interested. Always appreciate the followers
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jun 24, 2018 13:22:48 GMT -5
Never thought about this. Would have been great to have Dino Bravo and Hercules. Always wished they made a Tito in white too.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 24, 2018 15:04:09 GMT -5
He was on the cusp of being the face of the company at that time. Utterly bizarre that it didn't happen! I never thought of that either! Would have been way cooler than the Yokozuna repaint, and they both had figs in the red series. I do love Evil Crush though, so glad they made him. But would take Luger over either guy. And yeah, bizaar how he ascended and then descended so fast. I prefered Bret as champion at WMX, but I don't think Luger should have been dropped down the card as far as he was. I was really into the Allied Powers too, wished they would have gotten the tag straps from Yoko and Owen. I agree with you, if I had to choose 2 out of the three (Yoko, Evil Crush, USA Luger), I would have preferred Evil Crush and USA Luger. I agree that Luger did fall pretty quickly but I think that had to do with the WWF's decision to turn both Shawn and Diesel face. In 1995, they were overloaded with top faces but were lacking top heels. At the time they put the Allied Powers together, the top faces in the company were Bret, Diesel, Taker, Razor, Lex, and Bulldog, and they were about to change Shawn and Bam Bam to face after WM11. It's easy to see how he got lost in the shuffle. I'm with you, I would have loved to see the Allied Powers win the tag titles from Owen and Yoko, then have the Allied Powers lose the titles back to Owen and Yoko with Bulldog turning on Luger. Then have Luger and Bulldog have a feud before putting Bulldog with Bret.
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Post by The Madness on Jul 1, 2018 22:04:24 GMT -5
I really wanted the Beverly Brothers, Orient Express, or Natural Disasters attire Earthquake figures as a kid. It seemed like tag team figures were a lot heavier on the face side.
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Post by whossideareyouon on Jul 3, 2018 6:47:30 GMT -5
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Post by juniordaddyo on Aug 15, 2018 7:44:14 GMT -5
Be good to see your customs Thanks I've tried to get them on here but its a nightmare so you can always look up my Instagram account- rb's retro wrestling as I post my customs, recreate big scenes and my other collection buts too if your interested. Always appreciate the followers HaHa...I already follow you on Instagram!
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