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Post by BØRNS on Jun 15, 2018 15:19:52 GMT -5
What do you think of Lesnar breaking Punk's record of 434 days? While I don't like this, I thought they didn't make as big of a deal as I think they should have. At least Heyman (ideally with Lesnar) should have made a live promo in the middle of the ring, ESPECIALLY since Heyman managed Punk during his reign! Thoughts?
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Post by theicwguy on Jun 15, 2018 15:24:38 GMT -5
I picked 2 and 5. I don't think it does anything for anyone having lesnar break it. I would rather it was strowman or roman reigns.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 15:26:05 GMT -5
Lesnar hasn't broken it though. Punk held the WWE championship for 434 days, Lesnar is holding the Universal championship (which is a joke of a title anyway). They're two different titles.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 15, 2018 15:48:42 GMT -5
The Universal title isn't a World championship so Punk's record still stands.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jun 15, 2018 15:54:20 GMT -5
The Universal title isn't a World championship so Punk's record still stands. It is a world championship, it's just not the same one that Punk held. |
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Post by King Richius on Jun 15, 2018 15:56:43 GMT -5
I was looking for the option "WWE records are entirely arbitrary and don't matter."
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Post by Planktung on Jun 15, 2018 16:08:22 GMT -5
Stop slandering the Universal Title.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 15, 2018 16:10:54 GMT -5
The Universal title isn't a World championship so Punk's record still stands. It is a world championship, it's just not the same one that Punk held. It's not. It's a title that represents the WWE Universe. If Cena won that belt he would be a 16 time World champion and a 1 time Universal champion. |
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Post by Iron Bison on Jun 15, 2018 16:39:55 GMT -5
Punk at least worked the 434 days. How many days did Lesnar actually work, 12?
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Post by PJ on Jun 15, 2018 16:53:31 GMT -5
What record? He’s not even in the “Top 3” longest title reigns. Punk’s reign wasn’t as long as Bruno’s, Backlund’s or Hogan’s. So the way I see it Punk never had a record to break.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 15, 2018 17:48:00 GMT -5
Quality > Quantity. Punk's reign had some highs and lows, but at least he was around. Least he was on TV. And at least he was entertaining. Brock has had a hand-full of defenses and he's phoned most of them in. No comparison.
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Post by y13 on Jun 15, 2018 18:07:19 GMT -5
It was decided that being petty was more important than making the product better. Instead of giving Reigns the title at Mania, they wanted to wipe away Punk as having the longest world title reign.
Looks even worse now because all of a sudden we’re reading that Brock isn’t even scheduled for Summerslam? I still believe he’ll be there, but it doesn’t change the fact that this reign was terrible.
Also, they were (or still) actually gonna have Reigns and Lesnar main event another major show. In NY no less. I don’t think I’ve ever been as down on WWE than I am right now.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jun 15, 2018 18:21:48 GMT -5
What record? He’s not even in the “Top 3” longest title reigns. Punk’s reign wasn’t as long as Bruno’s, Backlund’s or Hogan’s. So the way I see it Punk never had a record to break. THANK YOU! I liked Punks title reign, but it always annoyed me when they go "He was the longest reigning champion of the modern era", just to make it sound like he had a record when he had no record. To me, the record holder for any World Title is Brunos 7 year long run. |
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Post by vampiro666 on Jun 15, 2018 18:30:56 GMT -5
It accomplishes nothing for anyone especially when you only defend it once every 4 or 5 months at least punk was a fighting champion and defended it every opportunity he had when ever and wherever. it's basically the same scenario as when they had New day break demolition tag title run record same can be said for aj Lee's diva title record as well
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 15, 2018 18:33:41 GMT -5
What record? He’s not even in the “Top 3” longest title reigns. Punk’s reign wasn’t as long as Bruno’s, Backlund’s or Hogan’s. So the way I see it Punk never had a record to break. Bingo! Punks "record" is the equivalent of a participation trophy. |
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Post by LK3 on Jun 15, 2018 19:01:31 GMT -5
Record isn’t the right word to use to begin with. It’s pretty much that Punk’s reign was the longest of the modern era, or the last 30 years, however one would want to phrase it.
Unless they do it with someone holding the WWE Championship, Punk’s reign will remain in tact as the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era. Lesnar’s reign is however the longest reigning World Championship reign of the modern era. And yes it’s a World Title, it’s the top title on Raw, of course it’s a World Title.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Jun 15, 2018 19:23:49 GMT -5
The WWE has said, is saying, and will say whatever they want to say, in any circumstance that benefits the WWE. They will bend any stat into any fact they see fit.
Let’s take the WWWF / WWF / WWE / Unified / Raw / Smackdown / World Tag Team Championship Titles for example. Demolition’s record is for the WWWF / WWF / World (Raw) Tag Team Championship Titles (active from 1971 – 2010). The New Day’s record is for the WWE (Smackdown) / Raw Tag Team Championship Titles (active from 2002 – present). The Usos’ record is for the Smackdown Tag Team Championship Titles (active from 2016 – present). There are three different Championship Titles with three different linages, yet they are all Tag Team Championship Titles in WWE history. You can interoperate this any way you want, but the WWE is basically saying that although they are different, at the end of the day, they are the all the same.
Let’s take the WWWF / WWF / Undisputed / WWE / World / Universal / Heavyweight Championship Titles for example. Bruno Sammartino’s record is for the WWWF / WWF / Undisputed / WWE / World Heavyweight Championship Title (active from 1971 – present). Batista’s record is for the World Heavyweight (WWE’s version of the Big Gold Belt) Championship Title (active from 2002 – 2013). Brock Lesnar’s record is for the Universal Championship Title (active from 2016 – present). There are three different Championship Titles with three different linages, yet they are all World Heavyweight Championship Titles in WWE history. You can interoperate this any way you want, but the WWE is basically saying that although they are different, at the end of the day, they are the all the same.
The WWE views the Universal Championship Title as a World Heavyweight Championship Title, as it should, because it’s the top Championship Title on one of their two brands. Just like the Tag Team Championship Titles, they view the Universal and World Championship Titles as being on the same level. With Brock Lesnar’s reign surpassing CM Punk’s reign, the Beast is now the longest reigning WWE Heavyweight Champion in the last 32 years, regardless if it’s the Universal or World Championship Title Belt he’s holding.
I don’t believe the WWE would recognize the Intercontinental and United States Championship Titles as being, for a lack of a better work, “interchangeable”, but “Anything Can Happen In The WWE”.
As far as spite goes, who cares!?
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Post by davie™ on Jun 15, 2018 19:30:36 GMT -5
I know I'm gonna get a lot of crap but how come Okada doesn't get crap for holding the IWGP World title for 2 years and only about 15 defenses?🤔
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Post by The Brain on Jun 15, 2018 19:36:06 GMT -5
What record? He’s not even in the “Top 3” longest title reigns. Punk’s reign wasn’t as long as Bruno’s, Backlund’s or Hogan’s. So the way I see it Punk never had a record to break. This 100%. |
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Post by LA Times on Jun 15, 2018 19:39:25 GMT -5
1) Its not the same championship
2) Punk's reign wasnt even a record
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