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Post by sourcehill on Jul 20, 2018 9:04:24 GMT -5
So I haven't purchased an Elite in a couple of years. Here is what Mattel would need to do to win me back:
1. Face printing tech. They're starting to use this and I couldn't be happier. Adds so much life to the figure. Look at Elite 60 HHH....AMAZING eye printing.
2. DOUBLE-JOINTED ELBOWS / BUTTERFLY SHOULDERS. What's the point of having wrestling figures when they can't even put their arms up past a 90 degree angle? Maybe this is what the ultimate figures are? Maybe something with MORE articulation? Marvel Legends have had these features for a few years and it makes a huge difference.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 20, 2018 9:09:20 GMT -5
Not knocking you for wanting what you want...BUT...
They just took away articulation on basics. When dms came back they had noticeably less accessories.
"Budget" concerns have shown up in several areas like painting torsos.
They won't be adding anything. They don't care if you buy or not. Others will. With all due respect, bye.
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Post by sourcehill on Jul 20, 2018 9:26:40 GMT -5
Not knocking you for wanting what you want...BUT... They just took away articulation on basics. When dms came back they had noticeably less accessories. "Budget" concerns have shown up in several areas like painting torsos. They won't be adding anything. They don't care if you buy or not. Others will. With all due respect, bye. They're adding hands to Elites. Why wouldn't the update the bodies to include some neccisary articulation that EVERY modern 6" $20+ figure has? Elites were a 'high-end' brand of figure that has the ab crunch, rocker angles, etc. Why not double jointed elbows or butterfly shoulders? Would make a huge difference. Mattel NEEDS to freshen the figure lineup.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 20, 2018 9:32:05 GMT -5
I expect these Ultimate figures to be the equivalent of what we got with the early DM figures. So full blown cloth accessories and paint apps. I'm good with spending more money if it means we can start getting Macho with full attires and another Warrior with a duster or coat. Halloween Havoc 98 Warrior is a massive want for me. So my hope is that Mattel is doing a line where I can finally get that figure in all of its glory.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 20, 2018 9:36:11 GMT -5
I won't complain if they added articulation, but I doubt they'd do it in one line only. It would be a standing change across all Elites if they're going to invest in retooling every mold. I think these Ultimate figures are going to be similar to the WM Asuka we saw - premium entrance gear, accessories, belts, etc. There could be a lot of cool possibilities for the line, but the cynic in me says they'll probably just use it as another way to squeeze extra money for high demand figures.
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Post by Sting on Jul 20, 2018 10:00:42 GMT -5
I expect these Ultimate figures to be the equivalent of what we got with the early DM figures. So full blown cloth accessories and paint apps. I'm good with spending more money if it means we can start getting Macho with full attires and another Warrior with a duster or coat. Halloween Havoc 98 Warrior is a massive want for me. So my hope is that Mattel is doing a line where I can finally get that figure in all of its glory. Halloween Havoc 98 Warrior for sure ... hopefully they give us this figure soon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 10:07:07 GMT -5
They are going to be fiures with that extra something, Macho Man robes, Warrior coats etc
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Post by PVA on Jul 20, 2018 10:11:12 GMT -5
Face printing technology seems to very prone to paint errors which makes figures look pretty bad but when done right looks good.
Buying without examining faces is likely going to leave a lot of people disappointed.
Seems paint apps errors in general are more prominent now then initially in 2010/2011
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Post by Army of Doinks on Jul 20, 2018 10:38:59 GMT -5
Face printing technology seems to very prone to paint errors which makes figures look pretty bad but when done right looks good. Buying without examining faces is likely going to leave a lot of people disappointed. Seems paint apps errors in general are more prominent now then initially in 2010/2011 😂 what the hell are you talking about
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 20, 2018 10:41:26 GMT -5
I hope they have flashbacks/legends in the line
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Post by boz1515 on Jul 20, 2018 10:44:44 GMT -5
They are going to be fiures with that extra something, Macho Man robes, Warrior coats etc Yeah, put Greg Valentine in there with a sweet robe and a shin guard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 10:51:01 GMT -5
They are going to be fiures with that extra something, Macho Man robes, Warrior coats etc Yeah, put Greg Valentine in there with a sweet robe and a shin guard. Exactly, this is what i mean, loads to do
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Post by sourcehill on Jul 20, 2018 10:59:48 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who thinks it's a shame that Elites don't have double-jointed elbows??!?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 11:09:05 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who thinks it's a shame that Elites don't have double-jointed elbows??!? What do you mean by double jointed lol and ill tell you
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 20, 2018 11:11:09 GMT -5
Ultimate edition Supertar Billy Graham. I like the sound of it
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Post by Nivroâ„¢ on Jul 20, 2018 11:17:31 GMT -5
Drastic changes to figures turn more people off then turn them on. The perfect example is the overly stocked pegs of female figures after the basic loss of articulation. Its killed basic women unless it's a first time in line figure.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Jul 20, 2018 11:17:57 GMT -5
I think Asuka is the first
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 20, 2018 11:24:45 GMT -5
Not knocking you for wanting what you want...BUT... They just took away articulation on basics. When dms came back they had noticeably less accessories. "Budget" concerns have shown up in several areas like painting torsos. They won't be adding anything. They don't care if you buy or not. Others will. With all due respect, bye. They're adding hands to Elites. Why wouldn't the update the bodies to include some neccisary articulation that EVERY modern 6" $20+ figure has? Elites were a 'high-end' brand of figure that has the ab crunch, rocker angles, etc. Why not double jointed elbows or butterfly shoulders? Would make a huge difference. Mattel NEEDS to freshen the figure lineup. I'd wager my soul they are treating the extra hands like accessories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 11:25:38 GMT -5
I think Asuka is the first What makes you think this mate?
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Jul 20, 2018 11:28:01 GMT -5
Drastic changes to figures turn more people off then turn them on. The perfect example is the overly stocked pegs of female figures after the basic loss of articulation. Its killed basic women unless it's a first time in line figure. Looking back, I didn't mind the change because the men never had it so whatever. But it can't be coincidence that after basic 83 I decided to purge me women's collection down to 1 of each except favorites like aj, Sasha, alexa, etc. I'm with you on this one.
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