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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 27, 2018 9:16:54 GMT -5
Not a chance in hell would UFC let a guy walk out wearing another companies belt. Wrestling or not.
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Post by k5 on Jul 27, 2018 11:54:30 GMT -5
the whole ufc idea is goofy. ufc already does what it can to separate from the idea of being associated with wrestling, they’re not going to destroy their legitimacy completely by allowing a knowingly staged fight to occur in their octagon.
i don’t think people understand that mma has it’s own current form of kayfabe, and directly having a wrestling storyline involved with their product would break it. fans thinking fighters really hate each other: money. fans knowing that the feud aspect is rigged: less money.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 27, 2018 12:36:08 GMT -5
I still say have Braun cash in at a UFC event. I don't understand this at all. Why would Vince or the fans want to see a cash in for the Universal Title on a UFC PPV... of which... majority of fans won't be able to see... and of those UFC fans who do get to see it... majority wouldn't care. Why have WWEs biggest moment of the year on a UFC PPV? Why would Brock want to have a match before his UFC fight and lose energy/risk injury? Why would Brock allow a cash in after the fight where he could either be seriously hurt or knocked out? I don't see how this makes sense to do. You're literally giving a guy who has been out of UFC for 2 years now (maybe more?) who is being thrown into a title match. There is no reason to believe that staging doesn't happen in this company. And I mean when Brock loses that night, have Braun come out and pin him. Done.
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Post by daredevil on Jul 28, 2018 22:12:23 GMT -5
I don't understand this at all. Why would Vince or the fans want to see a cash in for the Universal Title on a UFC PPV... of which... majority of fans won't be able to see... and of those UFC fans who do get to see it... majority wouldn't care. Why have WWEs biggest moment of the year on a UFC PPV? Why would Brock want to have a match before his UFC fight and lose energy/risk injury? Why would Brock allow a cash in after the fight where he could either be seriously hurt or knocked out? I don't see how this makes sense to do. You're literally giving a guy who has been out of UFC for 2 years now (maybe more?) who is being thrown into a title match. There is no reason to believe that staging doesn't happen in this company. And I mean when Brock loses that night, have Braun come out and pin him. Done. Why did you like your own post? lol What does staging have to do with any of the concerns I mentioned? And again... if Brock is hurt or loopy... they will want to give him medical attention right away where your scenario might not even be possible.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Jul 29, 2018 0:18:14 GMT -5
the whole ufc idea is goofy. ufc already does what it can to separate from the idea of being associated with wrestling, they’re not going to destroy their legitimacy completely by allowing a knowingly staged fight to occur in their octagon. i don’t think people understand that mma has it’s own current form of kayfabe, and directly having a wrestling storyline involved with their product would break it. fans thinking fighters really hate each other: money. fans knowing that the feud aspect is rigged: less money. Did you NOT watch Brock's first Championship win? If that fight wasn't fixed then I will eat my hat. Even the most die hard UFC fans I know can't stand Lesnar in the Octagon, and don't believe he deserves another title shot. To quote one of them "Why does Dana White and Vince McMahon keep bending and letting Brock have his way with them. These same fans are already pissed at the amount of coverage of the Lesnar UFC fight is getting in the media plus Cormier's statement saying he'd be willing to appear on WWE TV to promote the fight. Which is something that rarely happens in the UFC, as one friend said if they keep promoting Lesnar's return on the UFC PPV's between now and then it will more then likely turn them off. They were extremely pissed when they ran the angle after Cormier's win, and that says a lot about those fans. In my eyes if Brock walks back into the UFC and wins the title with the WWE Universal Championship around his waist then it is explicit proof that the UFC is a fixed sport and it may end up killing all the momentum that company has built up over the years. Having Braun cash in after a Lesnar UFC Win or Lose will just be the icing on an already messed up situation
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Post by k5 on Jul 29, 2018 0:42:59 GMT -5
the whole ufc idea is goofy. ufc already does what it can to separate from the idea of being associated with wrestling, they’re not going to destroy their legitimacy completely by allowing a knowingly staged fight to occur in their octagon. i don’t think people understand that mma has it’s own current form of kayfabe, and directly having a wrestling storyline involved with their product would break it. fans thinking fighters really hate each other: money. fans knowing that the feud aspect is rigged: less money. Did you NOT watch Brock's first Championship win? If that fight wasn't fixed then I will eat my hat. Even the most die hard UFC fans I know can't stand Lesnar in the Octagon, and don't believe he deserves another title shot. To quote one of them "Why does Dana White and Vince McMahon keep bending and letting Brock have his way with them. These same fans are already pissed at the amount of coverage of the Lesnar UFC fight is getting in the media plus Cormier's statement saying he'd be willing to appear on WWE TV to promote the fight. Which is something that rarely happens in the UFC, as one friend said if they keep promoting Lesnar's return on the UFC PPV's between now and then it will more then likely turn them off. They were extremely pissed when they ran the angle after Cormier's win, and that says a lot about those fans. In my eyes if Brock walks back into the UFC and wins the title with the WWE Universal Championship around his waist then it is explicit proof that the UFC is a fixed sport and it may end up killing all the momentum that company has built up over the years. Having Braun cash in after a Lesnar UFC Win or Lose will just be the icing on an already messed up situation mma being fixed has been a reality since the dawn of the sport - rather it was in PRIDE and the yakuza instructed that someone had to take the fall, bam bam big elbow agreeing to let kimo rough him up in japan, or the ufc paying submission fighters more to stand most of the fight when against a lesser opponent who is a valuable commodity. I know that aspects of ufc are fixed. You do too. But the common fan? Absolutely not, and that’s why Brock’s fights sell so well. I mean, you’re first point was Brock’s first championship win - that’s history. They got that over, rather it was fake or not. And they’ll get his next fight with Cormier over too. But they won’t risk the business on Vince getting to have a wwe moment in the octagon.
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Post by Edge618 on Jul 29, 2018 6:46:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that was a joke post.. like 80% sure. From a storyline logic perspective, it would make total sense. Brock Lesnar is almost never in a WWE arena nowadays, but you know where to find him when he is fighting in the UFC. After he gets his ass kicked in the Octagon, that is when he is at his most vulnerable. This starts playing Stroman comes out with a referee and a ring announcer and announces he is cashing in his MITB contract. Lesnar gets those hands, followed by a Powerslam and a pin. I wish Dana White would have the balls to allow this to happen. All sports and entertainment media outlets would be covering it and both companies can use the publicity. Man. This post gave me a headache. After someone in a real life UFC fight gets beat, they just aren’t going to let Braun come in and slam him around. Jesus. Do you know how this works? If Brock gets beat he’s going to get medically evaluated. The fact that you think there’s a world where Braun cashing in after Brock getting beat is even remotely possible is baffling. It’s a funny thought. But meet reality.
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Post by crashholly2002 on Jul 29, 2018 8:10:52 GMT -5
wait, Roman Reigns losing 4 times in a row to Brock Lesnar is as you put: "horrendous booking"?
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 29, 2018 12:45:25 GMT -5
I still say have Braun cash in at a UFC event. It would certainly be a shocker the likes of which hasn't happened since '02-'03ish. JR used to say anything can happen. Anything can happen, except that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 20:15:00 GMT -5
It would certainly be a shocker the likes of which hasn't happened since '02-'03ish. JR used to say anything can happen. Anything can happen, except that. I wish it would happen just for massive avalanche of sh*t that would ensue. The reactions from the type of UFC fans who take it way too seriously would be months of entertainment.
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Post by theicwguy on Jul 29, 2018 20:23:10 GMT -5
Bring back GOLDBERG!
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Post by theicwguy on Jul 29, 2018 20:26:46 GMT -5
the whole ufc idea is goofy. ufc already does what it can to separate from the idea of being associated with wrestling, they’re not going to destroy their legitimacy completely by allowing a knowingly staged fight to occur in their octagon. i don’t think people understand that mma has it’s own current form of kayfabe, and directly having a wrestling storyline involved with their product would break it. fans thinking fighters really hate each other: money. fans knowing that the feud aspect is rigged: less money. I wouldn't use the term "rigged." That's like how Vince Russo would describe something.
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