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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 3, 2018 13:43:34 GMT -5
Roman Reigns vs. The Rock - I'm surprised this hasn't been done. Why? Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns debuted. It’s like being surprised that Strowman vs Kevin Nash hasn’t been done.
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Post by LA Times on Aug 3, 2018 19:49:34 GMT -5
Roman Reigns vs. The Rock - I'm surprised this hasn't been done. Why? Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns debuted. It’s like being surprised that Strowman vs Kevin Nash hasn’t been done. Roman Reigns debuted Survivor Series 2012 and the Rock wrestled John Cena at Wrestlemania 29.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Aug 3, 2018 20:51:01 GMT -5
CM Punk is never coming back.
In terms of current main roster:
Seth Rollins vs AJ Styles The Miz vs Daniel Bryan Randy Orton vs Finn Balor Samoa Joe vs Bobby Lashley Samoa Joe vs John Cena Ronda Rousey vs Charlotte Flair Ronda Rousey vs Asuka Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks and Bayley Jeff Hardy vs Finn Balor Shinsuke Nakamura vs Finn Balor Roman Reigns vs Shinsuke Nakamura Brock Lesnar vs Bobby Lashley Brock Lesnar vs Samoa Joe II Braun Strowman vs AJ Styles Braun Strowman vs Samoa Joe AJ Styles vs Finn Balor II Daniel Bryan vs Finn Balor Daniel Bryan vs Samoa Joe Daniel Bryan vs Shinsuke Nakamura
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 4, 2018 0:10:09 GMT -5
Roman Reigns vs. The Rock - I'm surprised this hasn't been done. Why? Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns debuted. It’s like being surprised that Strowman vs Kevin Nash hasn’t been done. Rock came back JUST to put over Reigns when he won the Royal Rumble. Vince/WWE has done EVERYTHING in their conceivable power to put Reigns over, and (as I stated before) I am surprised they haven't had The Rock come back to have a match with him so they can put him over one more time. Why is that hard to understand? It's my opinion, and in my opinion, if WWE is so invested in Reigns, it'd be dumb of them not to do it.
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Post by LK3 on Aug 4, 2018 1:06:42 GMT -5
I’m sure they’d love to do Rock/Reigns. Rock also has been unable to wrestle due to his movie commitments and risking injury after he was hurt in the WM29 match against Cena.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 4, 2018 1:26:49 GMT -5
Why? Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns debuted. It’s like being surprised that Strowman vs Kevin Nash hasn’t been done. Rock came back JUST to put over Reigns when he won the Royal Rumble. Vince/WWE has done EVERYTHING in their conceivable power to put Reigns over, and (as I stated before) I am surprised they haven't had The Rock come back to have a match with him so they can put him over one more time. Why is that hard to understand? It's my opinion, and in my opinion, if WWE is so invested in Reigns, it'd be dumb of them not to do it. Because they haven’t had the opportunity to have Rock work a match in the time Reigns has been a solo wrestler. He got injured in his last match with Cena and it caused huge panic with the movie he was doing at the time (Hercules?), and since then, insurers on his movies have stopped Dwayne from signing up for more wrestling bumps. If it was up to Vince McMahon, there would’ve been a Reigns vs Rock match by now, or at least them teaming up. But it isn’t.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 4, 2018 1:27:56 GMT -5
Why? Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns debuted. It’s like being surprised that Strowman vs Kevin Nash hasn’t been done. Roman Reigns debuted Survivor Series 2012 and the Rock wrestled John Cena at Wrestlemania 29. Yeah, my bad. The accurate statement is Rock hasn’t had a (real) match since Reigns became a singles wrestler.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 4, 2018 1:59:02 GMT -5
Rock came back JUST to put over Reigns when he won the Royal Rumble. Vince/WWE has done EVERYTHING in their conceivable power to put Reigns over, and (as I stated before) I am surprised they haven't had The Rock come back to have a match with him so they can put him over one more time. Why is that hard to understand? It's my opinion, and in my opinion, if WWE is so invested in Reigns, it'd be dumb of them not to do it. Because they haven’t had the opportunity to have Rock work a match in the time Reigns has been a solo wrestler. He got injured in his last match with Cena and it caused huge panic with the movie he was doing at the time (Hercules?), and since then, insurers on his movies have stopped Dwayne from signing up for more wrestling bumps. If it was up to Vince McMahon, there would’ve been a Reigns vs Rock match by now, or at least them teaming up. But it isn’t. How can you say they haven't had the opportunity? You're not the Rock's agent prioritizing his activites. As long at Dwayne is above ground, there is opportunity for the match. I'm not sure what you're trying to explain? Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it couldn't have happened by now. You still think there hasn't been opportunity? Since Dwayne's last match with Cena, Dwayne has been at WrestleMania 30, WrestleMania 31, and WrestleMania 32 (at which he had a match). A match takes one evening from his schedule. No one believes that the opportunity isn't there.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 4, 2018 2:42:50 GMT -5
Because they haven’t had the opportunity to have Rock work a match in the time Reigns has been a solo wrestler. He got injured in his last match with Cena and it caused huge panic with the movie he was doing at the time (Hercules?), and since then, insurers on his movies have stopped Dwayne from signing up for more wrestling bumps. If it was up to Vince McMahon, there would’ve been a Reigns vs Rock match by now, or at least them teaming up. But it isn’t. How can you say they haven't had the opportunity? Because they haven’t had the opportunity. The Rock hasn’t wrestled a proper match in over five years - do you really think that’s because they don’t have any ideas for him? It’s because him wrestling caused big problems for a movie that cost many millions of dollars to make, and he can’t do it again unless he clears his schedule for recovery time. And he has movies scheduled years in advance. This is not new news. Him wrestling only takes one night out of his schedule if it’s a promo and a Rock Bottom to Erick Rowan. If it’s a real main event match, it’s weeks or months preparing, then weeks or months getting healthy after he hurts himself doing it.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 4, 2018 4:09:58 GMT -5
How can you say they haven't had the opportunity? Because they haven’t had the opportunity. The Rock hasn’t wrestled a proper match in over five years - do you really think that’s because they don’t have any ideas for him? It’s because him wrestling caused big problems for a movie that cost many millions of dollars to make, and he can’t do it again unless he clears his schedule for recovery time. And he has movies scheduled years in advance. This is not new news. Him wrestling only takes one night out of his schedule if it’s a promo and a Rock Bottom to Erick Rowan. If it’s a real main event match, it’s weeks or months preparing, then weeks or months getting healthy after he hurts himself doing it. But there's a big difference between saying there hasn't been opportunity, and choosing not to take the opportunity. Dwayne is not a slave. He chooses which projects he WANTS to take on. He clearly does not value his "family" in the WWE to go years and years and years without even giving so much as to walk right into a WrestleMania main event. The guy is the definition of a hypocrite, and even though I don't like him, there HAS been TONS of opportunity to make something happen. This isn't something I personally want to see, but it is undeniably the biggest match WWE can give Reigns at this point.
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Post by LK3 on Aug 4, 2018 4:21:36 GMT -5
Because they haven’t had the opportunity. The Rock hasn’t wrestled a proper match in over five years - do you really think that’s because they don’t have any ideas for him? It’s because him wrestling caused big problems for a movie that cost many millions of dollars to make, and he can’t do it again unless he clears his schedule for recovery time. And he has movies scheduled years in advance. This is not new news. Him wrestling only takes one night out of his schedule if it’s a promo and a Rock Bottom to Erick Rowan. If it’s a real main event match, it’s weeks or months preparing, then weeks or months getting healthy after he hurts himself doing it. But there's a big difference between saying there hasn't been opportunity, and choosing not to take the opportunity. Dwayne is not a slave. He chooses which projects he WANTS to take on. He clearly does not value his "family" in the WWE to go years and years and years without even giving so much as to walk right into a WrestleMania main event. The guy is the definition of a hypocrite, and even though I don't like him, there HAS been TONS of opportunity to make something happen. This isn't something I personally want to see, but it is undeniably the biggest match WWE can give Reigns at this point. Are you making his point? If The Rock declines wrestling a match, then WWE has no opportunity to make it happen.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 4, 2018 4:42:00 GMT -5
Because they haven’t had the opportunity. The Rock hasn’t wrestled a proper match in over five years - do you really think that’s because they don’t have any ideas for him? It’s because him wrestling caused big problems for a movie that cost many millions of dollars to make, and he can’t do it again unless he clears his schedule for recovery time. And he has movies scheduled years in advance. This is not new news. Him wrestling only takes one night out of his schedule if it’s a promo and a Rock Bottom to Erick Rowan. If it’s a real main event match, it’s weeks or months preparing, then weeks or months getting healthy after he hurts himself doing it. But there's a big difference between saying there hasn't been opportunity, and choosing not to take the opportunity. Dwayne is not a slave. He chooses which projects he WANTS to take on. You’ve confused yourself into reinforcing my point. WWE haven’t had the opportunity to book Rock vs Reigns, because Rock hasn’t sacrificed his body and career to make himself available to them for it.
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Post by Dan on Aug 4, 2018 4:47:28 GMT -5
- Roman Reigns vs The Rock - Roman Reigns vs CM Punk - Roman Reigns vs Kenny Omega - Roman Reigns vs Goldberg - AJ Styles vs Shawn Michaels - Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Bryan - John Cena vs Kenny Omega - John Cena vs Goldberg - AJ Styles vs Kenny Omega
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Post by keegandimitrijevic01 on Aug 4, 2018 7:17:55 GMT -5
There are still many big money matches that WWE can do.
AJ Styles vs The Undertaker
AJ Styles vs Seth Rollins
AJ Styles vs The Rock
Brock Lesnar vs Daniel Bryan
Brock Lesnar vs Bobby Lashley
Brock Lesnar vs Batista (it happened on OVW)
Brock Lesnar vs Shinsuke Nakamura (it happened in NJPW, I know)
John Cena vs Samoa Joe
The Rock vs Roman Reigns
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 4, 2018 11:26:45 GMT -5
After she dominated and won like 10 times? Losing doesn't destroy your believability, but having 2 fights and putting up absolutely no fight in either one absolutely destroys your credibility. Rousey was (most of the time) fighting the best possible opponents. Whereas Punk fought a newbie and a dud and looked like crap against both of them. He had absolutely no offence in one fight, and in the other the guy wasn't even looking at him as he beat the crap out of him. He basically delegitimised the toughness of the entire wrestling industry's credibility. Not even comparable. She was kicking ass before she lost. Punk simply got his ass kicked. Never won a fight. Honestly never had a chance to It is comparable because Punk has his whole body of work in a wrestling ring prior to his attempt at MMA. If he ever happened to come back, then that is what he would be remembered for. Just like Ronda is known as the baddest woman on the planet despite getting her ass kicked by two different women. Those losses are ignored and the focus is on when she was dominating UFC. Same with Punk. His UFC fights will be completely ignored and his accomplishments as a main even star in WWE will be highlighted. Hey I get to use this again: Most MMA fans do not watch wrestling. "It's fake bro!". Most wrestling fans don't watch MMA. There is cross over in those but if you were to ask most wrestling fans who the greatest/best UFC fighter is they would probably say Brock Lesnar, which he's not. Wrestling fans are quick to forget about losses, they want to be entertained. When Rousey signed, the board was all over it about how awesome it was that she was going to be "full time", when she was exposed in her last two fights in the UFC. And I think Lashley and Lesnar are to smart to have that match in WWE. If they hold off to have it in the UFC, then the UFC can bank off those wrestling fans that don't normally buy the PPVs to get it to see the fight. Same reason Dan Severn and Shamrock didn't want to touch during the attitude era, they thought the bigger pay day would be MMA.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 4, 2018 11:29:47 GMT -5
Rock vs Brock - Both are much bigger stars now than when they met in 2002. Match itself probably wouldn’t be great but just the atmosphere of these two being in the ring together would be electric.
AJ vs Bryan - Yeah WWE pulled a WCW by having them fight on a throwaway episode of SD but I feel like this is still a huge matchup that they can present.
Punk vs AJ/Bryan - Punk is never coming back but if he did these are the big money matches.
Brock vs Batista - They haven’t met in a ring since 2001. Again wouldn’t be a technical masterpiece but these two would create an epic atmosphere. This would basically be a hard hitting, old/school behemoth matchup.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 4, 2018 11:33:09 GMT -5
Lolling at the people who think Ronda was facing top talent in her UFC days. It’s common knowledge that she was fed a lot of bottom tier fighters to build up her mystique. When they finally gave her decent opponents they exposed her major lack of a striking game and casual fans finally saw what she really was.
Not saying Ronda was terrible because she wasn’t. But her MMA career reminds me of Rocky 3. She worked her butt off to be the best but was fed a bunch of low tier fighters before getting dominated by a legit threat. Only difference is that she never recovered from her bad losses.
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Post by steveblackman on Aug 4, 2018 11:40:59 GMT -5
Steve Blackman vs Vampiro.
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Post by k5 on Aug 4, 2018 12:15:45 GMT -5
It is comparable because Punk has his whole body of work in a wrestling ring prior to his attempt at MMA. If he ever happened to come back, then that is what he would be remembered for. Just like Ronda is known as the baddest woman on the planet despite getting her ass kicked by two different women. Those losses are ignored and the focus is on when she was dominating UFC. Same with Punk. His UFC fights will be completely ignored and his accomplishments as a main even star in WWE will be highlighted. Hey I get to use this again: Most MMA fans do not watch wrestling. "It's fake bro!". Most wrestling fans don't watch MMA. There is cross over in those but if you were to ask most wrestling fans who the greatest/best UFC fighter is they would probably say Brock Lesnar, which he's not. Wrestling fans are quick to forget about losses, they want to be entertained. When Rousey signed, the board was all over it about how awesome it was that she was going to be "full time", when she was exposed in her last two fights in the UFC. And I think Lashley and Lesnar are to smart to have that match in WWE. If they hold off to have it in the UFC, then the UFC can bank off those wrestling fans that don't normally buy the PPVs to get it to see the fight. Same reason Dan Severn and Shamrock didn't want to touch during the attitude era, they thought the bigger pay day would be MMA. where did you get that information from? shamrock signed to wwe because the pay days were so much larger than ufc at the time and more consistent - and it was wwe officials that screwed their feud potential, not shamrock or Severn opting out...
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 4, 2018 12:25:57 GMT -5
How can you say they haven't had the opportunity? Because they haven’t had the opportunity. The Rock hasn’t wrestled a proper match in over five years - do you really think that’s because they don’t have any ideas for him? It’s because him wrestling caused big problems for a movie that cost many millions of dollars to make, and he can’t do it again unless he clears his schedule for recovery time. And he has movies scheduled years in advance. This is not new news. Him wrestling only takes one night out of his schedule if it’s a promo and a Rock Bottom to Erick Rowan. If it’s a real main event match, it’s weeks or months preparing, then weeks or months getting healthy after he hurts himself doing it. Agreed for accuracy. The Rock is one of the in demand actors in Hollywood today. When you are one of those types, it hard to say no to movie projects. If a studio wants to do business with The Rock, those studios get priority over WWE. I hate it when people think The Rock forgets where he came from. The Rock calling his production company Seven Bucks Productions speaks for itself. He named it as such as a reminder that he only had seven dollars to his name early in his wrestling career. I am sure the WWE is salivating with the thought of The Rock vs. Roman Reigns. The WWE hasn't had the chance to do so. Why? Read what I wrote in the beginning. I recall The Rock saying an interview last year, he is pretty much booked solid with roles and projects until 2020. Rock/Reigns is a match that requires promos and build. How can one get emotionally invested in a money match without a build? The Rock's schedule would have to open up that favors the WWE. I hate to say this but there isn't a whole lot of true money matches the WWE can have. A lot of them mentioned here are really true money matches. I see them as mere dream matches. There is a difference between a dream match vs. a match that would fill a large stadium and get all the casual viewers to invest in. Rock/Reigns falls into the latter than the former.
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