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Post by Patriot174 on Aug 9, 2018 22:00:29 GMT -5
The gif below certainly defines the divide...legit didn't expect that to be the true reason over the rift in their friendship...
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Post by Falconsinclair on Aug 9, 2018 22:36:13 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts:
It sucks that it had to come to this. If Punk texted Cabana and said he would cover Cabana's legal fees then backed out he is a true scumbag and Cabana has prove of Punk's commitment. Punk should just man up and do right by his friend and put the whole thing behind him. The longer this draws out the worse Punk will look especially if the court decides in Cabana favor.
Even if the courts rule in Punk's favor this is a really crapty thing to force a friend to do.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 9, 2018 23:31:09 GMT -5
Hopefully this means Punk post WWE record goes to 1-3.
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 10, 2018 1:17:28 GMT -5
Punk looks like a douche again, big shocker.
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Post by Mark Martin on Aug 10, 2018 1:48:56 GMT -5
Weren't they like best friends for years and years? Punk seems like he's purposefully trying to burn as many bridges as he possibly can.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Aug 10, 2018 1:58:30 GMT -5
Life be throwing L’s at CM Punk like...
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Post by sharpshooter on Aug 10, 2018 4:40:30 GMT -5
This is the only time I want Colt Cabana to win. The whole lawsuit was because of CM Punk and his big mouth, something he’s always been so proud of, except when it costs him money. Pathetic. And what’s even sadder is that Punk can afford that bill and probably not even notice the money being gone.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 10, 2018 4:56:21 GMT -5
Heard about this on Wrestling Soup. There's multiple sides to this to be looked at. CM Punk does come off like a child who would probably end a friendship if you ate his McDonalds fries (stole this from Twitter lol). However, when Punk texted that, it was until he realized it was a whole lot more than he expected since they kept pushing the trial. Then I hear Don Tony say there could be a legal reason as to why Colt could be wrong in suing Punk, legal as in podcast money Colt earned while this lawsuit has been in place.
My personal opinion, Punk should just pay part of those legal fees and Colt should be pay the rest. Yeah Colt just wanted to be a friend and give Punk a platform to voice his feelings, but Colt also benefited from the Punk interviews.
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Post by PJ on Aug 10, 2018 7:30:07 GMT -5
I won’t lose any sleep over this. And honestly I think it’s their own fault for feeling the need to make all this public.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 7:54:13 GMT -5
Heard about this on Wrestling Soup. There's multiple sides to this to be looked at. CM Punk does come off like a child who would probably end a friendship if you ate his McDonalds fries (stole this from Twitter lol). However, when Punk texted that, it was until he realized it was a whole lot more than he expected since they kept pushing the trial. Then I hear Don Tony say there could be a legal reason as to why Colt could be wrong in suing Punk, legal as in podcast money Colt earned while this lawsuit has been in place. My personal opinion, Punk should just pay part of those legal fees and Colt should be pay the rest. Yeah Colt just wanted to be a friend and give Punk a platform to voice his feelings, but Colt also benefited from the Punk interviews. This is totally off topic but back when Don Tony started his podcast, I absolutely could not stand the guy(which my opinion has changed). But I got him so worked up in the YouTube comments section years ago he legit responded to me and called me a ret**d. I'm proud of that moment for whatever reason and I can correlate me starting to like him with the day he called me a ret**d.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 10, 2018 8:25:34 GMT -5
I’m having some trouble following all the details but I’m not sure Cabana has a strong case. It seems like a jerk move by Punk, but unfortunately it’s not illegal to be a jerk.
Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything that constitutes a contract obligating Punk to pay Cabana’s bills. It seems like Punk promised via text to take care of Cabana then didn’t follow through. I would think in that case it’s Cabana’s problem for taking Punk’s advice and laying his eggs in the CM Punk basket.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 10, 2018 8:49:21 GMT -5
I'd argue that nobody has benefited more from CM Punk's rise to fame than Colt. He's a mediocre comedy wrestler that's largely famous because he was Punk's best friend. He knew the reach that Punk would have when he did that podcast, as Colt used to constantly talk about how insanely famous Punk was when they went places together, and he was the one that uploaded the podcast after having already heard everything Punk had to say. It's not like they were streaming live.
I'm positive Punk told Cabana he was taking care of the legal. I'm positive Punk had no clue how expensive this whole deal was going to be when he said it. I think they should both sue Amann. I'm not sure why Colt thinks he's entitled to punitive damages. So from my perspective, Colt is wrong, Punk is wrong, and this is ultra sad. We also don't know how their friendship broke down throughout the process. It's easy to read a one-sided account of the situation and pass judgment. The portion of the internet who already sh*ts on Punk is surely going to be trigged by this one.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Aug 10, 2018 9:13:24 GMT -5
I’m torn here. I have felt a very small drop of this in comparrison, but lost a freindship none the less when we opened a business together. Losing a friend can suck, but I also understand Colt’s side here. If I was handed a bill for over a quarter of a Million dollars, I’d go straight to a legal representative to see what could be done. I don’t imagine Punk is as loaded as people think. This is a crapty situation on all sides, but the shoots that will cone from it 10 years from now will be informative and entertaining.
But, a small part of me feels this is a set up for a surprise at All In. I mean, inagine if CM Punk shows up during Colts match and shoot fights. The world would implode, thats a heat bomb behind a show thats already a massive success.
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 10, 2018 9:15:54 GMT -5
I’m torn here. I have felt a very small drop of this in comparrison, but lost a freindship none the less when we opened a business together. Losing a friend can suck, but I also understand Colt’s side here. If I was handed a bill for over a quarter of a Million dollars, I’d go straight to a legal representative to see what could be done. I don’t imagine Punk is as loaded as people think. This is a crapty situation on all sides, but the shoots that will cone from it 10 years from now will be informative and entertaining. But, a small part of me feels this is a set up for a surprise at All In. I mean, inagine if CM Punk shows up during Colts match and shoot fights. The world would implode, thats a heat bomb behind a show thats already a massive success. Do you mean shoot fight as in getting winded right away, then getting stomped out after offering no feasible offense whatsoever? I'd argue that nobody has benefited more from CM Punk's rise to fame than Colt. He's a mediocre comedy wrestler that's largely famous because he was Punk's best friend. He knew the reach that Punk would have when he did that podcast, as Colt used to constantly talk about how insanely famous Punk was when they went places together, and he was the one that uploaded the podcast after having already heard everything Punk had to say. It's not like they were streaming live. I'm positive Punk told Cabana he was taking care of the legal. I'm positive Punk had no clue how expensive this whole deal was going to be when he said it. I think they should both sue Amann. I'm not sure why Colt thinks he's entitled to punitive damages. So from my perspective, Colt is wrong, Punk is wrong, and this is ultra sad. We also don't know how their friendship broke down throughout the process. It's easy to read a one-sided account of the situation and pass judgment. The portion of the internet who already sh*ts on Punk is surely going to be enjoying this one. Fixed it for ya. People might enjoy it but they probably won't enjoy it anywhere near as much as watching him get beat up not once but twice on a global scale.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 10, 2018 9:37:34 GMT -5
I'd argue that nobody has benefited more from CM Punk's rise to fame than Colt. He's a mediocre comedy wrestler that's largely famous because he was Punk's best friend. He knew the reach that Punk would have when he did that podcast, as Colt used to constantly talk about how insanely famous Punk was when they went places together, and he was the one that uploaded the podcast after having already heard everything Punk had to say. It's not like they were streaming live. I'm positive Punk told Cabana he was taking care of the legal. I'm positive Punk had no clue how expensive this whole deal was going to be when he said it. I think they should both sue Amann. I'm not sure why Colt thinks he's entitled to punitive damages. So from my perspective, Colt is wrong, Punk is wrong, and this is ultra sad. We also don't know how their friendship broke down throughout the process. It's easy to read a one-sided account of the situation and pass judgment. The portion of the internet who already sh*ts on Punk is surely going to be trigged by this one. In all honesty, it’s probably best for Cabana and Punk to not sue Amann or each other. This new lawsuit is essentially about legal fees. Guess what a lawsuit brings. More legal fees, stress, wasted time, and possibly more lawsuits. Cut your losses and move on is the best advice I’d give.
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Post by alanpartridge on Aug 10, 2018 9:53:08 GMT -5
Wow this moments ruined now.
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Post by havoc7179 on Aug 10, 2018 10:28:52 GMT -5
I’m having some trouble following all the details but I’m not sure Cabana has a strong case. It seems like a jerk move by Punk, but unfortunately it’s not illegal to be a jerk. Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything that constitutes a contract obligating Punk to pay Cabana’s bills. It seems like Punk promised via text to take care of Cabana then didn’t follow through. I would think in that case it’s Cabana’s problem for taking Punk’s advice and laying his eggs in the CM Punk basket. I'd argue that nobody has benefited more from CM Punk's rise to fame than Colt. He's a mediocre comedy wrestler that's largely famous because he was Punk's best friend. He knew the reach that Punk would have when he did that podcast, as Colt used to constantly talk about how insanely famous Punk was when they went places together, and he was the one that uploaded the podcast after having already heard everything Punk had to say. It's not like they were streaming live. I'm positive Punk told Cabana he was taking care of the legal. I'm positive Punk had no clue how expensive this whole deal was going to be when he said it. I think they should both sue Amann. I'm not sure why Colt thinks he's entitled to punitive damages. So from my perspective, Colt is wrong, Punk is wrong, and this is ultra sad. We also don't know how their friendship broke down throughout the process. It's easy to read a one-sided account of the situation and pass judgment. The portion of the internet who already sh*ts on Punk is surely going to be trigged by this one. Ok. So as an attorney, I can say this much. 1) It is not uncommon for a person (say Punk) to agree to pay someone else's legal fees. In fact, in the report posted by the TC, it says Punk signed something like that. 2) It is UNCOMMON for a law firm not to have an a guarantor on that--meaning that while X agrees to pay for Y's fees, if X does not pay, Y is responsible. So, my guess is that Cabana as part of his attorney client contract understood that he would ultimately be responsible. I can't see any law firm worth its name not doing that. THat's the standard. 3) If that is all that Cabana has, he does not have much legs to stand on. That contract is between Punk and the law firm. If Punk breaches that contract, the law firm can go after both Punk and Cabana or just go after Cabana. Cabana can't really go after Punk, unless the agreement says more. But generally speaking it wouldn't. 4) Cabana needed what is called an indemnification agreement and he needed to enter into it with Punk prior to all this. It would not be part of any agreement signed with the law firm. It would state something to the effect that Punk would pay any losses Cabana incurred as a result of using this attorney. Without this, Cabana has no real standing, which is the ability to bring a claim, to file a suit against Punk--unless its an oral contract. But, it sounds like that Punk just did it as a gift to Cabana. 5) The fact that Cabana did as Punk told does not exonerate him nor does it guarantee that the lawsuit would not be filed. That's immaterial though. All that fact does is determine how liable he would have been as there would be mitigating factors involved. There's not much to the fact from a legal standpoint in a case of abreach of contract. It's an external factor.
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Post by DIESEL on Aug 10, 2018 10:43:47 GMT -5
and to think this all started from a pimple
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Post by sharpshooter on Aug 10, 2018 11:12:54 GMT -5
Strange question, but does anybody know if Kofi Kingston has ever commented on if him & Punk are still friends? It seems he’s fallen out with everyone else he was previously close with.
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Post by bababooey on Aug 10, 2018 11:43:36 GMT -5
I’m having some trouble following all the details but I’m not sure Cabana has a strong case. It seems like a jerk move by Punk, but unfortunately it’s not illegal to be a jerk. Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see anything that constitutes a contract obligating Punk to pay Cabana’s bills. It seems like Punk promised via text to take care of Cabana then didn’t follow through. I would think in that case it’s Cabana’s problem for taking Punk’s advice and laying his eggs in the CM Punk basket. I'd argue that nobody has benefited more from CM Punk's rise to fame than Colt. He's a mediocre comedy wrestler that's largely famous because he was Punk's best friend. He knew the reach that Punk would have when he did that podcast, as Colt used to constantly talk about how insanely famous Punk was when they went places together, and he was the one that uploaded the podcast after having already heard everything Punk had to say. It's not like they were streaming live. I'm positive Punk told Cabana he was taking care of the legal. I'm positive Punk had no clue how expensive this whole deal was going to be when he said it. I think they should both sue Amann. I'm not sure why Colt thinks he's entitled to punitive damages. So from my perspective, Colt is wrong, Punk is wrong, and this is ultra sad. We also don't know how their friendship broke down throughout the process. It's easy to read a one-sided account of the situation and pass judgment. The portion of the internet who already sh*ts on Punk is surely going to be trigged by this one. Ok. So as an attorney, I can say this much. 1) It is not uncommon for a person (say Punk) to agree to pay someone else's legal fees. In fact, in the report posted by the TC, it says Punk signed something like that. 2) It is UNCOMMON for a law firm not to have an a guarantor on that--meaning that while X agrees to pay for Y's fees, if X does not pay, Y is responsible. So, my guess is that Cabana as part of his attorney client contract understood that he would ultimately be responsible. I can't see any law firm worth its name not doing that. THat's the standard. 3) If that is all that Cabana has, he does not have much legs to stand on. That contract is between Punk and the law firm. If Punk breaches that contract, the law firm can go after both Punk and Cabana or just go after Cabana. Cabana can't really go after Punk, unless the agreement says more. But generally speaking it wouldn't. 4) Cabana needed what is called an indemnification agreement and he needed to enter into it with Punk prior to all this. It would not be part of any agreement signed with the law firm. It would state something to the effect that Punk would pay any losses Cabana incurred as a result of using this attorney. Without this, Cabana has no real standing, which is the ability to bring a claim, to file a suit against Punk--unless its an oral contract. But, it sounds like that Punk just did it as a gift to Cabana. 5) The fact that Cabana did as Punk told does not exonerate him nor does it guarantee that the lawsuit would not be filed. That's immaterial though. All that fact does is determine how liable he would have been as there would be mitigating factors involved. There's not much to the fact from a legal standpoint in a case of abreach of contract. It's an external factor. That actually is a better explanation of things. Like I said I was having trouble following all the details and may have missed something. To me it just seemed like Punk flaked on a promise. Having missed that Punk signed something, my initial reaction was that if I had sued everyone that flaked on me I’d be a billionaire. Lol
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