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Post by dollarbill04 on Aug 23, 2018 13:38:35 GMT -5
Tye Dillinger.
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Post by Triple S: POOR on Aug 23, 2018 13:40:32 GMT -5
Babyface: Seth Rollins. He should’ve been in Roman’s spot anyway.
Heel: Kevin Owens.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Aug 23, 2018 13:58:38 GMT -5
No one. Stab it through the faceplate, burn it, and bury the ashes under 10 feet of concrete.
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Post by PJ on Aug 23, 2018 14:43:58 GMT -5
Give Ambrose another shot at it. This time as top heel. Have him turn on the Shield. Feud with Rollins for a few months, come out of that looking good. Win a number one contenders match. Have Roman & Dean make it personal. Have Dean cheat to win. And give him a good run with it. Just don't let him do anymore podcasts with Austin... please. This. People act like Ambrose killed himself on the podcast but it was all Austin IMO. Dean was open about Brock being lazy and admitting that he felt underutilized. He even told Austin that it wasn’t like the old days anymore where guys could go out to the ring and says whatever they want. However because he didn’t want to open up about his childhood people seemed to write him off when Austin simply couldn’t get a hint. Dean has all the tools to be a top heel. Let him loose and watch him skyrocket. First off on that pod cast Ambrose was acting as if he was stoned or drunk which doesn’t make sense seeing he had just had a match moments earlier. Maybe he was concussed? But Ambrose did himself no favors and he went on to do exactly what Austin said he hoped he wouldn’t do which was once he got the title he got complacent and lazy. Ambrose’s whole title reign looked like he was phoning every match in. That had nothing to do with Austin that’s all on Ambrose. Even when people like to blame the booking/writing it’s still the performers who are supposed to go out and entertain the crowd, but he didn’t. He put no effort into his matches and it showed.
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Post by Vamp55 on Aug 23, 2018 15:51:25 GMT -5
Balor - not sure is I’m correct, but I don’t think the Demon lost yet?
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 23, 2018 16:24:13 GMT -5
Seth, Braun or Dean.
Would love to see Finn in the mix but want to see him turn heel first and give that a go. The babyface "Balor Club" gimmick at the moment has been going on since 2015 without any real major progression.
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Post by Dan on Aug 23, 2018 17:50:53 GMT -5
Braun Strowman would be the obvious choice, but at the same time that would also mean WWE is admitting that he is more over as a babyface than Reigns, which I don't think is going to happen. It's more likely to be a Kevin Owens, or a cheating heel Dean Ambrose. If they don't go with Roman Reigns vs The Rock at Wrestlemania 35, I think the Shield Triple Threat Match with a full lengthy build would be the best way to go, although I'd be surprised if Reigns didn't still win.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 23, 2018 17:51:33 GMT -5
Braun Strowman - Needs to be champion already, because he's getting stale Seth Rollins - Deserves to be champion and carry Raw Dean Ambrose - Only if he's heel to make it more interesting Kevin Owens - Is a complete dud for me, I didn't like him as Universal Champion the first time Finn Balor - Only if he's heel or if has the BC backing him up. Bobby Lashley - Only if he's heel Bobby Roode - Only if he's heel, he should go back to being the IT Factor or something similar.
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Post by JOEJOEJOEJOE on Aug 23, 2018 18:17:02 GMT -5
Heel Ambrose
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 23, 2018 18:22:26 GMT -5
Seth Freakin Rollins
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 23, 2018 18:23:19 GMT -5
I can't take that title seriously as a top championship. It's not a World title and whoever holds it will not be a World champion until they win the WWE title.
The belt has been a flop so Reigns could've threw it in the trash and retired it before unveiling The Big Gold.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 23, 2018 18:53:02 GMT -5
Honestly Raw is in a really weird state. It isn't in a bad state. But, the direction and a program to WrestleMania 35 is not really existent.
Rollins, Mcintyre, Amrbose, and Ziggler (although unlikely). I also really do like Braun. Braun is my least, Rollins is my most. But, I really won't be mad at any of these outcomes.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 23, 2018 19:16:26 GMT -5
This. People act like Ambrose killed himself on the podcast but it was all Austin IMO. Dean was open about Brock being lazy and admitting that he felt underutilized. He even told Austin that it wasn’t like the old days anymore where guys could go out to the ring and says whatever they want. However because he didn’t want to open up about his childhood people seemed to write him off when Austin simply couldn’t get a hint. Dean has all the tools to be a top heel. Let him loose and watch him skyrocket. First off on that pod cast Ambrose was acting as if he was stoned or drunk which doesn’t make sense seeing he had just had a match moments earlier. Maybe he was concussed? But Ambrose did himself no favors and he went on to do exactly what Austin said he hoped he wouldn’t do which was once he got the title he got complacent and lazy. Ambrose’s whole title reign looked like he was phoning every match in. That had nothing to do with Austin that’s all on Ambrose. Even when people like to blame the booking/writing it’s still the performers who are supposed to go out and entertain the crowd, but he didn’t. He put no effort into his matches and it showed. You’ve never watched an Ambrose interview have you? He’s never been interested in talking about his past and always comes off as he wants to be doing something different. It’s part of the character he puts on because it’s truly who he is. He hates social media and talking about his past. Had Austin done some actual research he’d have known that. You also seem to forget that Ambrose was made the #3 guy on SDL immediately after the draft as the show was focused completely on Cena and AJ. Yet despite that he still put on matches with AJ that a lot of people feel are better than any AJ/Cena match. I don’t get the phoning it in complaint when he was never truely the focal point of SDL despite being the WWE Champ. People seem to forget too that earlier that year he basically carried the company from TLC-WM32. With Rollins hurt and fans rejecting Roman he was basically feuding with Owens, HHH, Brock, and Roman at the same time and was putting on great matches consistently until running into that lazy-sack Lesnar.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Aug 23, 2018 19:27:03 GMT -5
Balor - not sure is I’m correct, but I don’t think the Demon lost yet? On the main roster he hasn't. I believe his only Demon loss was to Samoa Joe at Takeover: The End in a steel cage.
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Post by BSR on Aug 23, 2018 19:33:21 GMT -5
Who cares that belt is a turd
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Post by PJ on Aug 23, 2018 19:52:39 GMT -5
First off on that pod cast Ambrose was acting as if he was stoned or drunk which doesn’t make sense seeing he had just had a match moments earlier. Maybe he was concussed? But Ambrose did himself no favors and he went on to do exactly what Austin said he hoped he wouldn’t do which was once he got the title he got complacent and lazy. Ambrose’s whole title reign looked like he was phoning every match in. That had nothing to do with Austin that’s all on Ambrose. Even when people like to blame the booking/writing it’s still the performers who are supposed to go out and entertain the crowd, but he didn’t. He put no effort into his matches and it showed. You’ve never watched an Ambrose interview have you? He’s never been interested in talking about his past and always comes off as he wants to be doing something different. It’s part of the character he puts on because it’s truly who he is. He hates social media and talking about his past. Had Austin done some actual research he’d have known that. You also seem to forget that Ambrose was made the #3 guy on SDL immediately after the draft as the show was focused completely on Cena and AJ. Yet despite that he still put on matches with AJ that a lot of people feel are better than any AJ/Cena match. I don’t get the phoning it in complaint when he was never truely the focal point of SDL despite being the WWE Champ.People seem to forget too that earlier that year he basically carried the company from TLC-WM32. With Rollins hurt and fans rejecting Roman he was basically feuding with Owens, HHH, Brock, and Roman at the same time and was putting on great matches consistently until running into that lazy-sack Lesnar. You don’t get it?! Really? He had a job to do. Which was to go out and entertain the audience who paid good money to see the show. And all he did was put on what looked like unmotivated walk throughs and not matches. I don’t give a rats a$$ if he was the focal point of the show or just a cog in the wheel. The bottom line is he was being paid to go out and perform at a certain level and he didn’t put any effort into it at all. If I was Vince I would have released him. As for the match with Styles that was probably because it was Styles and he made Ambrose look better than he was. Look at Sandow when he was there the guy should have at least been the Intercontinental or United States Champion for a extended period of time. But he was put into those dead roles...yet he busted his a$$ and got them over every time. Then there was Ambrose the WWE champion and he wrestled as if he was phoning it in inside the ring. He had gotten very lazy as champion instead of elevating his game. It’s early yet but I am hoping with this extended time off recovering from injury he has found the fire he seemed to have lost during his championship run.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 23, 2018 20:28:29 GMT -5
You’ve never watched an Ambrose interview have you? He’s never been interested in talking about his past and always comes off as he wants to be doing something different. It’s part of the character he puts on because it’s truly who he is. He hates social media and talking about his past. Had Austin done some actual research he’d have known that. You also seem to forget that Ambrose was made the #3 guy on SDL immediately after the draft as the show was focused completely on Cena and AJ. Yet despite that he still put on matches with AJ that a lot of people feel are better than any AJ/Cena match. I don’t get the phoning it in complaint when he was never truely the focal point of SDL despite being the WWE Champ.People seem to forget too that earlier that year he basically carried the company from TLC-WM32. With Rollins hurt and fans rejecting Roman he was basically feuding with Owens, HHH, Brock, and Roman at the same time and was putting on great matches consistently until running into that lazy-sack Lesnar. You don’t get it?! Really? He had a job to do. Which was to go out and entertain the audience who paid good money to see the show. And all he did was put on what looked like unmotivated walk throughs and not matches. I don’t give a rats a$$ if he was the focal point of the show or just a cog in the wheel. The bottom line is he was being paid to go out and perform at a certain level and he didn’t put any effort into it at all. If I was Vince I would have released him. As for the match with Styles that was probably because it was Styles and he made Ambrose look better than he was. Look at Sandow when he was there the guy should have at least been the Intercontinental or United States Champion for a extended period of time. But he was put into those dead roles...yet he busted his a$$ and got them over every time. Then there was Ambrose the WWE champion and he wrestled as if he was phoning it in inside the ring. He had gotten very lazy as champion instead of elevating his game. It’s early yet but I am hoping with this extended time off recovering from injury he has found the fire he seemed to have lost during his championship run. I have to disagree about Sandow. Once he lost his cash in the magic disappeared. He stopped wearing his robe and didn't put the same effort into his gimmick. He was a unique character at the time and ended up turning into a joke.
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Post by PJ on Aug 23, 2018 20:50:02 GMT -5
You don’t get it?! Really? He had a job to do. Which was to go out and entertain the audience who paid good money to see the show. And all he did was put on what looked like unmotivated walk throughs and not matches. I don’t give a rats a$$ if he was the focal point of the show or just a cog in the wheel. The bottom line is he was being paid to go out and perform at a certain level and he didn’t put any effort into it at all. If I was Vince I would have released him. As for the match with Styles that was probably because it was Styles and he made Ambrose look better than he was. Look at Sandow when he was there the guy should have at least been the Intercontinental or United States Champion for a extended period of time. But he was put into those dead roles...yet he busted his a$$ and got them over every time. Then there was Ambrose the WWE champion and he wrestled as if he was phoning it in inside the ring. He had gotten very lazy as champion instead of elevating his game. It’s early yet but I am hoping with this extended time off recovering from injury he has found the fire he seemed to have lost during his championship run. I have to disagree about Sandow. Once he lost his cash in the magic disappeared. He stopped wearing his robe and didn't put the same effort into his gimmick. He was a unique character at the time and ended up turning into a joke. Yeah they took his "The Intellectual Savior of the Unwashed Masses" character that should have been a fixture for years as mid card title holder at the very least and turned him into the Mizdow gimmick and the one before it. Which both were joke characters and beneath his talent, but he busted his a$$ with them and still made them one of the most popular things on the card each night. Hell, he got the Mizdow gimmick so over they put the tag titles on them. Ambrose was the WWE Champion and acted in the ring like he was begrudgingly doing us a favor by being there. Absolutely no effort was given by him during his championship run.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 23, 2018 22:49:27 GMT -5
You’ve never watched an Ambrose interview have you? He’s never been interested in talking about his past and always comes off as he wants to be doing something different. It’s part of the character he puts on because it’s truly who he is. He hates social media and talking about his past. Had Austin done some actual research he’d have known that. You also seem to forget that Ambrose was made the #3 guy on SDL immediately after the draft as the show was focused completely on Cena and AJ. Yet despite that he still put on matches with AJ that a lot of people feel are better than any AJ/Cena match. I don’t get the phoning it in complaint when he was never truely the focal point of SDL despite being the WWE Champ.People seem to forget too that earlier that year he basically carried the company from TLC-WM32. With Rollins hurt and fans rejecting Roman he was basically feuding with Owens, HHH, Brock, and Roman at the same time and was putting on great matches consistently until running into that lazy-sack Lesnar. You don’t get it?! Really? He had a job to do. Which was to go out and entertain the audience who paid good money to see the show. And all he did was put on what looked like unmotivated walk throughs and not matches. I don’t give a rats a$$ if he was the focal point of the show or just a cog in the wheel. The bottom line is he was being paid to go out and perform at a certain level and he didn’t put any effort into it at all. If I was Vince I would have released him. As for the match with Styles that was probably because it was Styles and he made Ambrose look better than he was. Look at Sandow when he was there the guy should have at least been the Intercontinental or United States Champion for a extended period of time. But he was put into those dead roles...yet he busted his a$$ and got them over every time. Then there was Ambrose the WWE champion and he wrestled as if he was phoning it in inside the ring. He had gotten very lazy as champion instead of elevating his game. It’s early yet but I am hoping with this extended time off recovering from injury he has found the fire he seemed to have lost during his championship run. You should watch his matches again from that era. Listen to his crowd pops and seriously tell us again that he didn’t entertain the crowds. Dean has consistently been one of the most over stars in the company over the past 5 years despite his crap booking. You may not be a fan but to say he’s lazy and doesn’t entertain the fans is simply not true.
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Post by hbkowns on Aug 23, 2018 23:49:30 GMT -5
Strowman seems the most likely. I hope they don’t ruin him by cashing in and losing, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they do all that to feed him to Roman. But I see Roman having a very very very long reign, especially since it was announced that he’s the top merch seller.
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