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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 24, 2018 22:06:29 GMT -5
You have a cracking match. Of course Reigns gets the win lol
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Post by KeBen Owens on Sept 24, 2018 22:06:48 GMT -5
Of course Roman gets the pin after Corbin got tenderized by the rest of the shield
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 24, 2018 22:07:34 GMT -5
Dumb.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 24, 2018 22:08:43 GMT -5
gah I can' wait until Ambrose turns heel on their asses...
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Post by KeBen Owens on Sept 24, 2018 22:08:51 GMT -5
Turn’s coming. Dean’s gonna soon be the biggest heel this company has seen since Hunter.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 24, 2018 22:09:56 GMT -5
I liked RAW tonight. Good matches and story progression.
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Post by Chip on Sept 24, 2018 22:10:10 GMT -5
This Drake Maverick makes no sense. I get that he's the mouthpiece for this two big lugs that can't speak - but he doesn't need to dress like the mini me version of them. What's wrong with him styling a tux or suit? I makes those guys look more like monsters. Right now it looks like they brought their kid brother along. yeah but how many "guys in suits" do we need...to me that makes him just another generic manager. plus he's still the GM of 205 and he dresses pretty well for that role. So him being in the AOP outfit to me is a cool visual considering the size, and it differentiates him from other non-wrestlers and his own role on 205.
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Post by cableV on Sept 24, 2018 22:14:59 GMT -5
So after 3 hours of Raw, the only thing people will be talking about tomorrow is Brie kicking Liv in the face..twice. I suppose people can talk about Dean but that angle tonight was more likely just filler. Was there any important movement in any story line? Was there any movement at all? Will anything that happened this week, matter next week? WWE likes to claim they tell stories, but they really don't.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 24, 2018 22:15:33 GMT -5
This Drake Maverick makes no sense. I get that he's the mouthpiece for this two big lugs that can't speak - but he doesn't need to dress like the mini me version of them. What's wrong with him styling a tux or suit? I makes those guys look more like monsters. Right now it looks like they brought their kid brother along. yeah but how many "guys in suits" do we need...to me that makes him just another generic manager. plus he's still the GM of 205 and he dresses pretty well for that role. So him being in the AOP outfit to me is a cool visual considering the size, and it differentiates him from other non-wrestlers and his own role on 205. I think we disagree on this one. It's pretty much consensus that Paul Ellering was THE manager for AOP when they were in NXT, and Paul didn't have to dress like them. Of course Paul has a hell of a pedigree that's all part of his brand. Rockstar Spud looks ridiculous dressing up like these guys. I guess I should be thankful he's not managing the Ascension.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 24, 2018 22:17:07 GMT -5
Turn’s coming. Dean’s gonna soon be the biggest heel this company has seen since Hunter. Yeah, except the multiple world title reigns and the long stretches of overcooked finishes to keep the belt on him and the demeaning burial for anyone he faces and the support from Daddy-in-Law backstage making sure he's protected at all times. And also never getting a decent win against Da Big Dawg.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 24, 2018 22:20:00 GMT -5
I suppose Liv Morgan will be interviewed this week and profusely claim it's all her fault for hitting Brie's knee with her face.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Sept 24, 2018 22:32:37 GMT -5
I suppose Liv Morgan will be interviewed this week and profusely claim it's all her fault for hitting Brie's knee with her face. I know right? Even with being green, she should know better than to jeopardize the huge Rousey & Bella tag match coming up by bruising Brie's shin with her forehead.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 25, 2018 7:53:13 GMT -5
I feel bad for Liv. That looked brutal. She got KO'd and then Brie kicked her again on the way down.
Brie really hasn't looked great in the ring since her return. Lot's of mistakes, and not little ones either. I would classify her as being dangerous at this point. And it's odd because in 2014 when she fought Stephanie McMahon at SummerSlam, Brie was great and was considered the better Bella BY FAR at that time....
Hopefully she is able to improve, because if they continue to put her in high profile matches, only bad things can happen. Hopefully it's just ring rust or she just doesn't have her timing back or whatever, because we can't have her hurt herself or others.
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 25, 2018 9:18:49 GMT -5
I suppose Liv Morgan will be interviewed this week and profusely claim it's all her fault for hitting Brie's knee with her face. Wasn't the joke around here that Liv has a five head? Or am I thinking of someone else? If so, there's the defense Bella fans are looking for. I've watched the vid, slowed it down, and can say that the 3rd kick went shin to face, and the fourth kick was foot to face. Fourth kick happened becuase the shin kick knocked her around like a ragdoll, and the fourth was just her momentum taking her into it. So, yes, the fourth kick that caused the concussion may have been Liv's "fault" bc "Liv moved into it", but what caused her to ragdoll into the foot was the errant shin to face. (Those quotes are actual quotes I've seen on Twitter blaming Liv)
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Sept 25, 2018 9:36:16 GMT -5
I feel bad for Liv. That looked brutal. She got KO'd and then Brie kicked her again on the way down. Brie really hasn't looked great in the ring since her return. Lot's of mistakes, and not little ones either. I would classify her as being dangerous at this point. And it's odd because in 2014 when she fought Stephanie McMahon at SummerSlam, Brie was great and was considered the better Bella BY FAR at that time.... Hopefully she is able to improve, because if they continue to put her in high profile matches, only bad things can happen. Hopefully it's just ring rust or she just doesn't have her timing back or whatever, because we can't have her hurt herself or others. I know she said in an interview after the botched dives a few weeks ago that her weight after pregnancy threw her timing and balance off. I’m not going to argue that, but IMO, she should probably be spending more time at the performance center if she’s going to be having more matches than doing the Total Divas/Bella’s stuff, or her clothing line, and whatever else she’s involved in.
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Post by Bandalero on Sept 25, 2018 9:40:18 GMT -5
I feel bad for Liv. That looked brutal. She got KO'd and then Brie kicked her again on the way down. Brie really hasn't looked great in the ring since her return. Lot's of mistakes, and not little ones either. I would classify her as being dangerous at this point. And it's odd because in 2014 when she fought Stephanie McMahon at SummerSlam, Brie was great and was considered the better Bella BY FAR at that time.... Hopefully she is able to improve, because if they continue to put her in high profile matches, only bad things can happen. Hopefully it's just ring rust or she just doesn't have her timing back or whatever, because we can't have her hurt herself or others. I know she said in an interview after the botched dives a few weeks ago that her weight after pregnancy threw her timing and balance off. I’m not going to argue that, but IMO, she should probably be spending more time at the performance center if she’s going to be having more matches than doing the Total Divas/Bella’s stuff, or her clothing line, and whatever else she’s involved in. See I don't like that, she's not taking ownership of something that was solely her fault. It's not about whether the weight loss/gain threw off her balance or not, it's about admitting that a mistake was made and then trying to work on ways to prevent it from reoccurring again. Rationalizing it away like that doesn't show her taking responsibility and that's serious when you're wrestling other people that have their lives in your hands. And I get when your adrenaline is pumping, but at the same time you're a professional athlete, meaning you should have control over your body - the fourth kick was stupid on her part, she should have pulled back her leg after seeing Liv ragdolled.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Sept 25, 2018 10:31:01 GMT -5
Here's my take on the whole Brie incident. Brie Bella should be nowhere near a wrestling ring, her recent work has been borderline dangerous to not only herself, but others. The whole "weight after pregnancy, throwing the balance off" is just a poor excuse to not take responsibility for your own actions. The 2 botched dives were embarrassing and hard to watch, not only is she nearly landing on her head, possibly causing head and neck damage, she's also landing awkwardly on Logan and Riott trying to catch her, which in a worst case scenario, could injure their knees or ankles. And also to mention it not only makes her look stupid, but it makes those involved look stupid too. Now onto the kicks, i've watched this back plenty of times and anyone who has the nerve to blame Liv for what happened deserves a slap across the face, saying "she had her head too low" and other bs. Brie starts the kicks off at a normal pace, giving Morgan enough time between each one to sell it and prepare for the next, then stupidly speeds up and carelessly throws her leg all over the place, way too high which catches Live in the head, then continues to throw her leg recklessly which catches Liv again in the face on the way down. Now the part that pissed me off the most, after this she STUPIDLY lifts her head up then continues to try and pick her up. After the whole Sasha/Paige incident, she should know better than to move her head after you just kicked this Woman's head in, causing it to snap back on the first kick. I understand she was trying to see if she was fine but that was probably more dangerous than the kicks them self, if she's limp and unresponsive when you're trying to pin her, DON'T F'N TRY AND MOVE HER HEAD AROUND AFTER. I never cared much for the Bella Twins but now i've lost a whole lot, if not all respect for Brie. Her work since returning has been horrible and at any moment she could injure another or end someones career. She's botching all over the place, her work with Maryse was awful and now this. On top of that, like mentioned in the comment above, she hasn't taken any responsibility for any of the botches she's done since returning, blaming the dives on "pregnancy weight causing bad timing and balance" and now with this, not even owning up to the fact that she was reckless, careless and screwed up. "Our intentions as wwe Superstars is to win the match, never injure our opponents. Thinking about @yaonlylivvonce tonight." No public apology, no fault admitted by Brie, only "Thinking about Liv tonight" Well of course you are, you just kicked her head in. Now i'm dreading the match at Super Showdown, i'm going to be there live and i won't be surprised if she tries to suplex Ruby and drops her right on her head, then blame that on "Weak arms because i'm used to only carrying Birdie" Done.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Sept 25, 2018 10:48:27 GMT -5
-- Haven't seen Liv take a beating like that, since her Saturday night's with Enzo!
jk
Hope she's alright, her and Brie should've gone over that spot more thoroughly, in the afternoon.
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Post by Angel Beast on Sept 25, 2018 10:57:53 GMT -5
Here's my take on the whole Brie incident. Brie Bella should be nowhere near a wrestling ring, her recent work has been borderline dangerous to not only herself, but others. The whole "weight after pregnancy, throwing the balance off" is just a poor excuse to not take responsibility for your own actions. The 2 botched dives were embarrassing and hard to watch, not only is she nearly landing on her head, possibly causing head and neck damage, she's also landing awkwardly on Logan and Riott trying to catch her, which in a worst case scenario, could injure their knees or ankles. And also to mention it not only makes her look stupid, but it makes those involved look stupid too. Now onto the kicks, i've watched this back plenty of times and anyone who has the nerve to blame Liv for what happened deserves a slap across the face, saying "she had her head too low" and other bs. Brie starts the kicks off at a normal pace, giving Morgan enough time between each one to sell it and prepare for the next, then stupidly speeds up and carelessly throws her leg all over the place, way too high which catches Live in the head, then continues to throw her leg recklessly which catches Liv again in the face on the way down. Now the part that pissed me off the most, after this she STUPIDLY lifts her head up then continues to try and pick her up. After the whole Sasha/Paige incident, she should know better than to move her head after you just kicked this Woman's head in, causing it to snap back on the first kick. I understand she was trying to see if she was fine but that was probably more dangerous than the kicks them self, if she's limp and unresponsive when you're trying to pin her, DON'T F'N TRY AND MOVE HER HEAD AROUND AFTER. I never cared much for the Bella Twins but now i've lost a whole lot, if not all respect for Brie. Her work since returning has been horrible and at any moment she could injure another or end someones career. She's botching all over the place, her work with Maryse was awful and now this. On top of that, like mentioned in the comment above, she hasn't taken any responsibility for any of the botches she's done since returning, blaming the dives on "pregnancy weight causing bad timing and balance" and now with this, not even owning up to the fact that she was reckless, careless and screwed up. "Our intentions as wwe Superstars is to win the match, never injure our opponents. Thinking about @yaonlylivvonce tonight." No public apology, no fault admitted by Brie, only "Thinking about Liv tonight" Well of course you are, you just kicked her head in. Now i'm dreading the match at Super Showdown, i'm going to be there live and i won't be surprised if she tries to suplex Ruby and drops her right on her head, then blame that on "Weak arms because i'm used to only carrying Birdie" Done. Brie’s tweet gave off the same vibe as tweets from politicians who when a shooting happens, “Nothing could be done. Thoughts and prayers.” Don’t get me wrong I like Brie but she needs to realize she’s not Bryan and needs to stop trying to be him before she does serious damage to herself or opponent
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Post by havoc7179 on Sept 25, 2018 11:05:37 GMT -5
Here's my take on the whole Brie incident. Brie Bella should be nowhere near a wrestling ring, her recent work has been borderline dangerous to not only herself, but others. The whole "weight after pregnancy, throwing the balance off" is just a poor excuse to not take responsibility for your own actions. The 2 botched dives were embarrassing and hard to watch, not only is she nearly landing on her head, possibly causing head and neck damage, she's also landing awkwardly on Logan and Riott trying to catch her, which in a worst case scenario, could injure their knees or ankles. And also to mention it not only makes her look stupid, but it makes those involved look stupid too. Now onto the kicks, i've watched this back plenty of times and anyone who has the nerve to blame Liv for what happened deserves a slap across the face, saying "she had her head too low" and other bs. Brie starts the kicks off at a normal pace, giving Morgan enough time between each one to sell it and prepare for the next, then stupidly speeds up and carelessly throws her leg all over the place, way too high which catches Live in the head, then continues to throw her leg recklessly which catches Liv again in the face on the way down. Now the part that pissed me off the most, after this she STUPIDLY lifts her head up then continues to try and pick her up. After the whole Sasha/Paige incident, she should know better than to move her head after you just kicked this Woman's head in, causing it to snap back on the first kick. I understand she was trying to see if she was fine but that was probably more dangerous than the kicks them self, if she's limp and unresponsive when you're trying to pin her, DON'T F'N TRY AND MOVE HER HEAD AROUND AFTER. I never cared much for the Bella Twins but now i've lost a whole lot, if not all respect for Brie. Her work since returning has been horrible and at any moment she could injure another or end someones career. She's botching all over the place, her work with Maryse was awful and now this. On top of that, like mentioned in the comment above, she hasn't taken any responsibility for any of the botches she's done since returning, blaming the dives on "pregnancy weight causing bad timing and balance" and now with this, not even owning up to the fact that she was reckless, careless and screwed up. "Our intentions as wwe Superstars is to win the match, never injure our opponents. Thinking about @yaonlylivvonce tonight." No public apology, no fault admitted by Brie, only "Thinking about Liv tonight" Well of course you are, you just kicked her head in. Now i'm dreading the match at Super Showdown, i'm going to be there live and i won't be surprised if she tries to suplex Ruby and drops her right on her head, then blame that on "Weak arms because i'm used to only carrying Birdie" Done. When I saw Brie pick up Liv by the neck, this immediately came to mind: "(Brie Bella) doing just an awful job of stabilizing (Liv's neck) as she drags her off the (ring)."
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