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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 11, 2007 22:40:40 GMT -5
Whatever, punish em and put it behind us. It's happened before, I am trying to find a link to the Dolphins incident a few years ago.
Fine em, punish em, suspend BB, who cares.
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Post by T R W on Sept 11, 2007 22:43:13 GMT -5
If it was my team, I would be pissed that they are going to lose potential draft picks for cheating against a team that they didn't need to cheat against to beat. Personally, I hope they lose all their draft picks this year. I doubt they will be that hard on them, but that's why I'm not commissioner.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 11, 2007 22:47:17 GMT -5
They are going to lose 2 draft picks and get fined, it is not the first time this has happened in the NFL. People cheat.
Its just a dumb move, they got caught, they'll get punished and it'll be over.
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Post by limatime on Sept 11, 2007 23:34:57 GMT -5
"Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat"
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 11, 2007 23:39:00 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3014944John Clayton has a great article on it. The NFL can not strip the Patriots of the pick they acquired from the Niners, so if they wanna take the rest of the draft picks away then so be it. Punish em for cheating, and then move on. Teams cheat, the Broncos have, the Steelers have, the Dolphins have, Chargers and people who took juice etc. It happens, and its going to happen again. The Patriots were wrong, they should be punished and then lets get to Week 2
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Post by Fury on Sept 11, 2007 23:43:28 GMT -5
Meh I expect they'll be fined and lose a couple of draft picks for it, they deserve it for what they did and why they did it I have no idea, but whatever things will move on.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 11, 2007 23:49:25 GMT -5
What I dont understand is, what would the difference be if they had someone taking notes and staring at signs? I mean EVERY team tries to catch signs and keep track of signs, especially in baseball, but they have coaches watching the movements and signs. Cheating is cheating and they got caught, but if they caught some guy with a notebook is that as bad as a video tape? Even though they both provide the same thing and probably will be a lot easier to use if they were using the notebook. Thats why I am saying this isnt earth shattering, it happens, every team does it...God only knows why the they used a video camera for it though.
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Post by schilling4senate on Sept 12, 2007 8:38:05 GMT -5
If your not cheating than your not trying.JK Seriously though its funny how on radio the callers take it so personel."OMG HOW COULD BILL BELLICHECK DO THIS TO US"WHY WOULD HE DO IT" get over it people,The've probly been doing it for years and there probly not the only ones doing it.they were just the idiots that did it to a former employee who expected it.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 12, 2007 12:29:08 GMT -5
Mangini was the one who blew the cover of the Patriots cheating, hence my comment about them not being caught if it wasnt at NY. Mangini knew about it because he used to be a part of it. Good game sir, smart move. Pats are ed, but this is just a manuever in the gay chess match between Mangina and Belichick
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 12, 2007 12:31:06 GMT -5
Pats are ed, but this is just a manuever in the gay chess match between Mangina and Belichick Great. I just imagined the two of them sitting together, naked, around a marble chess table.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 12, 2007 12:34:14 GMT -5
I love Belichick, but I dont know what the he does in his personal life...him and Parcells pissed at each other, now Mangini, I mean why cant you be like Bill Walsh annd be like the dad of your disciples? Another good article: msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7216720?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5Possibly a 3rd rounder will be forfeited.
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Post by comebackkid on Sept 12, 2007 13:48:42 GMT -5
i just went ahead and banned ksl... and soon he's going to be completely banned from the nfl board, if jay will do it/has any time to do it these days. I love you
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 12, 2007 15:54:21 GMT -5
Awwww I drove the whole way to school hoping to debate more about the Patriots cheating, but no ones here :-(
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 12, 2007 15:58:58 GMT -5
Awwww I drove the whole way to school hoping to debate more about the Patriots cheating, but no ones here :-( I'd like to debate it, but what is there to debate? They did it. Belichick admitted it... I think it's a shame, it's a blemish on the NFL, and it should be punished... But there's really not a lot to say about it, in my opinion. If anyone thinks that the Patriots aren't talented enough to beat teams without this, they are out of their minds.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 12, 2007 16:02:08 GMT -5
Yah, they need to be punished, they cheated, but what really bothers me is people who say these things:
1. "They need to forfeit the game, Belichick needs to be suspended 4 games etc" 2. "The Jets game was tainted, blah blah 3. "Tainting the legacy etc, they are not gonna be able to win without cheating etc"
Every team does this, BB did it so blatantly because hes just arrogant, but the excessive penalties people want for this guy or this team is embarrassing.
Just be done with it, the team is still gonna pound people, the tape was taking away HALF WAY THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER!
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Post by tim on Sept 12, 2007 16:02:25 GMT -5
yea well just wait until roger goodell finds out about vinny testaverde being a genetically engineered super soldier
he's gonna be pissssed
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Post by Kliquid on Sept 12, 2007 16:03:46 GMT -5
yea well just wait until roger goodell finds out about vinny testaverde being a genetically engineered super soldier he's gonna be pissssed BIAK!!!!!
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Sept 12, 2007 16:04:01 GMT -5
Vinny T is gonna lead the way, if Tom ever gets hurt, 22 straight years with a TD son, hes gonna do it on the Titans again and incite a riot
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Post by Fury on Sept 12, 2007 16:11:30 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter what they do the Patriots will still be a force. I think a early-mid round draft pick taken away would be sufficient enough, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree with giving Belichick a 1 game suspension and no more. It is cheating and they got caught so they need to be punished, but I don't really think it was major cheating.
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