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Post by tg11 on Sept 1, 2018 8:28:54 GMT -5
Do you think The Undisputed Era (Cole, Fish, O'Reilly and Strong) have potential to be one of WWE's strongest factions in WWE today? I mean in NXT they more or less have been stalwarts but do you think their faction could fit in on the main roster?
They remind me so much of a 1980s NWA/WCW Four Horsemen with Cole being the Flair of the group, O'Reilly and Fish being the Arn & Tully of the group and Roderick being the Windham of the group but in some ways remind me of the original nWo (Hogan, Nash, Hall) too
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 1, 2018 8:42:25 GMT -5
Not a chance. They have no character and are boring to watch. You cannot compare them to the nWo or Horsemen. Those guys had charisma and could draw audiences.
If the likes of Sanity and Tye couldn't make it there is no way these guys will. Now don't get me wrong their music is cool and so is their name but the rest boring.
No doubt WWE will make Adam Cole Michael Coles son lol. Vince would find it hilarious.
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Post by Cane Dewey Riley on Sept 1, 2018 9:26:48 GMT -5
They will no doubt tear up the main roster...
... on 205 Live.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 9:49:33 GMT -5
Oh God Yeah, Not all of them have a character, but Cole really grew into his own by being a cocky heel and shouting his own name is not as stupid as flopong on the ground like a fish.. not to mention he's having better matches than he had on the Indys. Kyle's a Perv... I don't know how anyone else doesn't see this. Roddy's a jockass (to quote Oscar Nominated Picture No Holds Barred). And Bobbert Fish has a nice moustache.
So all the qualities of a potentially great Main Roster Run.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 1, 2018 9:51:36 GMT -5
The thing is, nobody knows. We could all sit here and pretend to be experts, but it's all for nothing. The same ones saying they will be dead on arrival are the same ones that Kevin Owens didn't stand a chance. The same ones that said HBK was too small. The same ones that said WWE would never use Bryan or AJ correctly. There is no rhyme or reason to Vince's mind. For all we know, Vince will look at these guys and think "meh. But he could also look at them and see $$$. So it's all a crapshoot.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Sept 1, 2018 10:18:56 GMT -5
I love the Undisputed Era but don't think that as with the current line up that they would work long term on the main roster.Most of the time when you debut a stable with all new talent like the Nexus it fails but sometimes it works like The Shield.However the UE while being extremely talented in the ring are four guys on the smaller size and for a stable going up against the likes of Reigns,Strowman,Lashley,...ect probably wont work and also don't know how much of the none die hard fans know about these guys and their ROH careers.
I think when the get called up to the main roster it might be best to to add and established name or two to the group and possibly break off Bobby Fish.I think you need to throw in a bigger name like lets say Samoa Joe into the group(would work with the faction with them all having ROH ties) and possibly a manger like Paul Heyman.
You do something like that and I think that the chances of the group getting over and staying over and major players on the main roster have a greater chances.Only sucky thing about this would be pushing Adam Cole back to kind of the upper mid carder spot and having a bigger name taking over.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 1, 2018 11:10:33 GMT -5
I like all four men, I am a fan of all four men and have been since their ROH days. But they really do look like they would be more suited for 205 Live.
That's what bothers me now, is that NXT really should just be a 4th brand. Keep guys in NXT. Guys like Tommy Dreamer stayed with ECW until it died, why can't guys just stay in NXT??
I remember Finn Balor said in an interview a few years back that he would be happy to stay in NXT for his entire career. A lot of these WWE stars would still be over if they remained in NXT. Guys like Gable, The Revival, No Way Jose, Dillinger, Breeze, and others.
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Post by Thought Collector on Sept 1, 2018 11:25:43 GMT -5
I like all four men, I am a fan of all four men and have been since their ROH days. But they really do look like they would be more suited for 205 Live. That's what bothers me now, is that NXT really should just be a 4th brand. Keep guys in NXT. Guys like Tommy Dreamer stayed with ECW until it died, why can't guys just stay in NXT?? I remember Finn Balor said in an interview a few years back that he would be happy to stay in NXT for his entire career. A lot of these WWE stars would still be over if they remained in NXT. Guys like Gable, The Revival, No Way Jose, Dillinger, Breeze, and others. I think it's because of all the 'landmarks' of the WWE that have been engrained in everyone's mind. Even though you are on the WWE roster in NXT you still aren't a regular part of the classic Monday Night RAW-home of the classic Monday night wars and al those classic moments, getting the chance to hold the WWE World Championship with all of the lineage, main eventing WrestleMania, SummerSlam etc...people still have the notion that you truly have 'made it' as a pro-wrestler reaching all those heights. NXT is one of the best things being produced and I can see loving being able to stay there but I guess all those type of things factor in.
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Post by hbkowns on Sept 1, 2018 11:33:04 GMT -5
4 guys who are below 6 foot. I’m not sure if Vince will give them a fair shake even though they’re all incredible performers. Then again the radicalz got a pretty big jump start when they came in, and all those guys were on the smaller side for that generations standards.
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Post by NOW that's WRESTLING on Sept 1, 2018 12:05:12 GMT -5
They will no doubt tear up the main roster... ... on 205 Live. I would LOVE that. Have them go in as a group, running amuck, Radicalz style.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 1, 2018 12:06:14 GMT -5
4 guys who are below 5 foot. I’m not sure if Vince will give them a fair shake even though they’re all incredible performers. Then again the radicalz got a pretty big jump start when they came in, and all those guys were on the smaller side for that generations standards.
True in regards of The Radicalz, but look at how Benoit and Guerrero looked. Both were on steroids, jacked up, and had the upper body size that someone who was 6'5" should have had, not 5'9".
I don't see anyone in the Undisputed Era having those kind of bodies ever for many reasons.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 1, 2018 13:23:46 GMT -5
Not a chance. They have no character and are boring to watch.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 1, 2018 13:49:25 GMT -5
Not a chance. They have no character and are boring to watch. You cannot compare them to the nWo or Horsemen. Those guys had charisma and could draw audiences. If the likes of Sanity and Tye couldn't make it there is no way these guys will. Now don't get me wrong their music is cool and so is their name but the rest boring. No doubt WWE will make Adam Cole Michael Coles son lol. Vince would find it hilarious. Followed by a Bay-Bay on a Pole match against Heath Slater. I see Roderick Strong as the guy most likely to succeed in that group, but his personality has been compared to that of a ball of earwax.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 1, 2018 14:16:05 GMT -5
as Marino says its genuinely hard to know.
There are a fair few acts now that have come up hot as f*ck but are mired in mid card hell eating pinfalls. See Bobby Rood, Revival & now Sanity. I Just genuinely don't know what the thought process is with guys in NXT coming up. Must be frustrating as hell for some of them.
As a faction? UE may just crack some niche with Vince that makes him take interest....But I'm inclined to agree that they need a mouthpiece. Maybe Heyman? Having them run roughshod with him yapping for them may be a winning formula.
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Post by Gazza on Sept 1, 2018 15:16:51 GMT -5
Not a chance. They have no character and are boring to watch. You cannot compare them to the nWo or Horsemen. Those guys had charisma and could draw audiences. If the likes of Sanity and Tye couldn't make it there is no way these guys will. Now don't get me wrong their music is cool and so is their name but the rest boring. No doubt WWE will make Adam Cole Michael Coles son lol. Vince would find it hilarious. UE are far more talented than Sanity and Tye. I like both Sanity and Tye, but every member of UE is far better.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 1, 2018 15:26:52 GMT -5
Not a chance. Adam Cole will hover around upper mid card. Roddy will be around Midcard and Fish & Oreilly will be an after thought like the rest of the tag division.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Sept 1, 2018 15:39:32 GMT -5
Every single member of Undisputed Era is brimming with talent and have been INTEGRAL. I to the N to the F#*%ing Tegral to NXT for the past year. They are Triple H's version of the Horsemen for NXT and considering three of them have been ROH World's champion, I don't think Triple H took it lightly when he swooped four of ROH's most important talents of this decade. He knew it would hurt them and benefit NXT if done right. As for each member. Adam, who I hate, is a total package athlete that any indy promotion would kill for as their top star, Roderick Strong makes everything look easy, and Red Dragon is an all-star tandom and steller singles wrestlers who can make anyone on the roster look better than they actually are. Look at how many UE T-shirts there have been at every Takeover since WarGames. They ing WON War Games! Triple H didn't do that for giggles! You don't book a team to get their asses beat only to pull off the heel victory of the first WAR GAMES in twenty years, give them ALL of the gold minus the NXT Heavyweight Title, and let them run the yard outside of the Main event for almost a year for craps and giggles. They are already the greatest faction in NXT's short history and can only go up from here. They are second only to Gargano vs Ciampa right now. They may not get a fair shake at being main roster stars, but by god are they and the office making the most of every second of their NXT tenure. Again, I HATE Adam Cole, but even I admit he's the best showman of the group with the most star potential even though Roddy is the best overall performer of the group and Red Dragon are both better than Cole in the ring, even if only as tag-team specialists and technicians by a small margin.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 1, 2018 15:52:58 GMT -5
Not a chance. They have no character and are boring to watch. You cannot compare them to the nWo or Horsemen. Those guys had charisma and could draw audiences. If the likes of Sanity and Tye couldn't make it there is no way these guys will. Now don't get me wrong their music is cool and so is their name but the rest boring. No doubt WWE will make Adam Cole Michael Coles son lol. Vince would find it hilarious. UE are far more talented than Sanity and Tye. I like both Sanity and Tye, but every member of UE is far better. Sanity and Tye are more entertaining though. UE would need a mouthpiece on the main roster.
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Post by Kanenite on Sept 1, 2018 18:12:50 GMT -5
It's hard to say but they should be a big deal, they are one of the better acts in all of the WWE today.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Sept 1, 2018 19:19:20 GMT -5
as Marino says its genuinely hard to know. There are a fair few acts now that have come up hot as f*ck but are mired in mid card hell eating pinfalls. See Bobby Rood, Revival & now Sanity. I Just genuinely don't know what the thought process is with guys in NXT coming up. Must be frustrating as hell for some of them. As a faction? UE may just crack some niche with Vince that makes him take interest....But I'm inclined to agree that they need a mouthpiece. Maybe Heyman? Having them run roughshod with him yapping for them may be a winning formula. Agree on all counts. If they drop the tag belts anytime soon, we may want to keep an eye on the main roster. Didn’t Hunter mention in an interview once upon a time that he could deal with his top stars getting the call up as long as creative had a plan for them in place? I can only imagine how frustrated he’s been over the past few years. That said, we’re inching closer and closer to 2019, and word is that Vince is “beginning” to take some time away from the shows. I can only assume he’s going to have to step away more regularly next year for his xfl relaunch in 2020. I realize there are shareholders that Hunter will have to answer to that don’t really factor into nxt, but I wonder what some of these call ups will look like when he is steering the ship?
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