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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 29, 2018 11:01:20 GMT -5
It’s hilarious seeing everyone hate on the bellas for accidents yet praise Charlotte (someone who gave Alicia a concussion, kneed Nia on the head, gave Carmella a stiff kick to the face and is over all sloppy) and Alexa who nearly got mickie hurt because she decided she didn’t wanna take a Dropbox bump. Nikki is one of the best wrestlers in wwe. This still shouldn’t be up for debate. You all will over look her because of her being a “diva”, Brie has been a tad sloppy since her return but she doesn’t need to be crucified. can you find me a post anywhere where more than one person was praising Charlotte OR Alexa’s in ring work. I feel like he's talking in general praise their work. I praise Bliss as a character more than a worker. I also feel on the main roster, Charlotte is the third best worker, behind Becky Lynch and Ember Moon. I agree no one mentioned Charlotte and Bliss in this thread however.
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Post by k5 on Sept 29, 2018 11:33:13 GMT -5
can you find me a post anywhere where more than one person was praising Charlotte OR Alexa’s in ring work. I feel like he's talking in general praise their work. I praise Bliss as a character more than a worker. I also feel on the main roster, Charlotte is the third best worker, behind Becky Lynch and Ember Moon. I agree no one mentioned Charlotte and Bliss in this thread however. true, he may have been suggesting that. I actually don’t think Nikki Bella was a bad worker at all by her backwards cap days as far as what the rest of the roster at that time looked like, and without her injured neck she’d be a top player today. but brie’s botches are pretty damn sad. lol
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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 29, 2018 15:31:58 GMT -5
It’s hilarious seeing everyone hate on the bellas for accidents yet praise Charlotte (someone who gave Alicia a concussion, kneed Nia on the head, gave Carmella a stiff kick to the face and is over all sloppy) and Alexa who nearly got mickie hurt because she decided she didn’t wanna take a Dropbox bump. Nikki is one of the best wrestlers in wwe. This still shouldn’t be up for debate. You all will over look her because of her being a “diva”, Brie has been a tad sloppy since her return but she doesn’t need to be crucified. Actually Refusing to take big bumps is something Alexa's body will thank Her for later, besides with already having her nose bloodied twice I can't blame Alexa for being hesitant to do certain bumps.
Besides that, Alexa is one of the best female heels on the roster.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 29, 2018 18:28:04 GMT -5
It’s hilarious seeing everyone hate on the bellas for accidents yet praise Charlotte (someone who gave Alicia a concussion, kneed Nia on the head, gave Carmella a stiff kick to the face and is over all sloppy) and Alexa who nearly got mickie hurt because she decided she didn’t wanna take a Dropbox bump. Nikki is one of the best wrestlers in wwe. This still shouldn’t be up for debate. You all will over look her because of her being a “diva”, Brie has been a tad sloppy since her return but she doesn’t need to be crucified. Actually Refusing to take bumps is something a cowardly heel like Alexa should do. something All chickencrap heels should do.
Besides that, Alexa is one of the best female heels on the roster.
Refusing to take a bump is not the same thing as playing a character.
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Post by IRS on Sept 29, 2018 20:00:48 GMT -5
It’s hilarious seeing everyone hate on the bellas for accidents yet praise Charlotte (someone who gave Alicia a concussion, kneed Nia on the head, gave Carmella a stiff kick to the face and is over all sloppy) and Alexa who nearly got mickie hurt because she decided she didn’t wanna take a Dropbox bump. Nikki is one of the best wrestlers in wwe. This still shouldn’t be up for debate. You all will over look her because of her being a “diva”, Brie has been a tad sloppy since her return but she doesn’t need to be crucified. Saying she's a tad sloppy is like saying John Bonham enjoyed the occasional cocktail.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 29, 2018 21:26:23 GMT -5
It’s hilarious seeing everyone hate on the bellas for accidents yet praise Charlotte (someone who gave Alicia a concussion, kneed Nia on the head, gave Carmella a stiff kick to the face and is over all sloppy) and Alexa who nearly got mickie hurt because she decided she didn’t wanna take a Dropbox bump. Nikki is one of the best wrestlers in wwe. This still shouldn’t be up for debate. You all will over look her because of her being a “diva”, Brie has been a tad sloppy since her return but she doesn’t need to be crucified. Actually Refusing to take bumps is something a cowardly heel like Alexa should do. something All chickencrap heels should do.
Besides that, Alexa is one of the best female heels on the roster.
Since when is taking bumps related to her wrestling character?
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Post by Iron Bison on Sept 30, 2018 1:14:07 GMT -5
"The Bella Twins Don't Fit This Women's Era"
Replace 'This' with 'Any' and you're set.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 30, 2018 10:52:47 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke.
Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man.
Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 30, 2018 11:11:54 GMT -5
Disagree. they've improved, in ring wise, are hot, and have lots of charisma, they can only benefit from having a stronger women's division, much in the same way Trish did. This but the opposite. There's definitely value in having diverse performer types on the roster so I don't mind a couple of women who are Divas era throwbacks, like Alexa Bliss and Carmella, but both of those two have more charisma, personality and mic skills in their pinky fingers than the Bellas have in their entire bodies. I get that the Bellas theoretically have some value for the company because Total Divas is nominally popular outside of the WWE die-hard fanbase, but neither of those two have ever been good in the ring or on the mic. I'm okay with them occasionally doing mixed tag team matches or dumb vanity matches against Stephanie McMahon or whatever, but it's insulting to the new breed of real women wrestlers to continue to push the Bellas.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 30, 2018 11:15:32 GMT -5
They're managers, Managers are always needed... Maryse has literally wrestled in two televised matches in the last seven days. And a total of what? Three matches in the last five years? Maryse at least has charisma, screen presence and the ability to cut a good promo as part of The Miz's act (best heel in the business!). She has demonstrable value as a regular on-screen character. I admire Lana's efforts to improve on the ring and it's clear she actually enjoys wrestling, but I think she should be doing "special attraction" matches like Maryse at this point.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 30, 2018 11:17:45 GMT -5
I think they would be fine as Managers but due to them being linked to Bryan and Cena (and the fact those two don't need Managers) I find them quite unfitting with the current Women's Roster. They really need to stop the whole narrative that The Bellas are some sort of pioneers of the Women's Division because they clearly weren't. They were literally the punchline of AJ Lee's devastating anti-Diva promo. I can only laugh when we get the canned line from Michael Cole of "Many say the Bellas kicked off the Women's Evolution" because my only alternative is to cry.
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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 30, 2018 11:18:06 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke. Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man. Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring. Bellas were Adored by Management WAY Before Cena and Bryan entered the picture.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 30, 2018 11:32:08 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke. Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man. Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring. I mean this thread is 9 pages of mostly people giving Brie crap...
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 30, 2018 12:57:18 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke. Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man. Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring. Bellas were Adored by Management WAY Before Cena and Bryan entered the picture. They got released and then came back when Cena entered the picture.
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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 30, 2018 14:32:52 GMT -5
Bellas were Adored by Management WAY Before Cena and Bryan entered the picture. They got released and then came back when Cena entered the picture. They still were adored by Management before Cena and Bryan.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 30, 2018 14:39:48 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke. Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man. Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring. Bellas were Adored by Management WAY Before Cena and Bryan entered the picture. Not near post cena levels. No record setting title reign. No high level storylines ( or at least storylines that were treated as important) such as the feud with Stephanie. No 2 tv shows. Look at how we can't get a Daniel Bryan anything without brie now. Before they were a side show. Twin magic was their whole thing. Now they act like they matter. It's cena, and to a lesser extent, Bryan, that have caused that.
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Post by kennyw86v2 on Sept 30, 2018 14:41:35 GMT -5
Brie is a danger to anyone she works with. She needs to go far away and be a mother and wife and stay out of the ring. She damn near broke her own neck twice in one match and what just happened to Liv was nothing short of reckless carelessness. This is something that if Sasha banks did most of you would be calling for her head. Brie is a joke. Nikki has gotten much better. But she isn't really good. She's a decent little piece in the same way anyone better than Eva Marie is. She got where she is because of her man. Agree with all the stuff about Charlotte. She always gets a pass because of her last name. She is sloppy and sometimes unnecessarily aggressive in ring. I mean this thread is 9 pages of mostly people giving Brie crap... Giving her crap yes. But imagine the levels of hate Sasha banks would get over this stuff. Or Carmella. Brie is barely getting any crap compared to that. Not just on this thread, but in total.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 30, 2018 15:01:00 GMT -5
They got released and then came back when Cena entered the picture. They still were adored by Management before Cena and Bryan. If they were so adored they wouldn't have gotten released in the first place.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Oct 1, 2018 6:37:27 GMT -5
Nikki’s not even with Cena anymore so the argument of her sleeping to the top is invalid at this point. If that held up in the first place, she’d have been released when her and Cena split.
Nikki’s a solid performer. Brie slightly less but she’s still capable. Both of them are not overly great, but not total dogcrap either. The ring rust has shown on both women but this is the first time Brie’s been in a ring full-time in nearly two years. Especially after giving birth, it’s always going to be hard to get back to performing at the full-time WWE level after so much time away.
The Liv Morgan injury was clearly an accident and was neither woman’s fault, but she was in Abbotsford for the house show this weekend. So she’s clearly okay enough to travel, and the Super Showdown match wasn’t jeopardized.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 1, 2018 11:04:02 GMT -5
Nikki’s not even with Cena anymore so the argument of her sleeping to the top is invalid at this point. If that held up in the first place, she’d have been released when her and Cena split. Nikki’s a solid performer. Brie slightly less but she’s still capable. Both of them are not overly great, but not total dogcrap either. The ring rust has shown on both women but this is the first time Brie’s been in a ring full-time in nearly two years. Especially after giving birth, it’s always going to be hard to get back to performing at the full-time WWE level after so much time away. The Liv Morgan injury was clearly an accident and was neither woman’s fault, but she was in Abbotsford for the house show this weekend. So she’s clearly okay enough to travel, and the Super Showdown match wasn’t jeopardized. Just because she isnt with him anymore doesn't mean that wasnt how she got there.
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