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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Feb 5, 2019 15:07:00 GMT -5
Charlotte > Becky
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 5, 2019 15:13:12 GMT -5
i think that people’s reasoning that Ronda may be exposed and Charlotte can fill the void is dead on. this reminds me of how people were about Benoit/Triple H/HBK. no one saw why hbk was in the match and that he was going to win and Benoit was getting the crap end. meanwhile Benoit had the most glorious moment of his whole career as a result. sorry to use Benoit as a reference, but it was relevant. Excellent comparison. We all know Becky is going over and even if Ronda goes over, it wont matter who's in the match at that point. Becky winning over Ronda AND Charlotte is a boost for her as shes killing 2 birds with one stone essentially.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 15:16:13 GMT -5
Off topic, but Nivro I know you will appreciate this. Seeing how she is probably not going to be in any women's title matches this year, I hope they don't merely add Alexa Bliss to the women's battle royal. I hope she is in a meaningful match, whether singles or tag team.
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Post by BØRNS on Feb 5, 2019 15:29:00 GMT -5
Last time I checked, Ronda had good matches with Sasha, Ruby, Mickie, even Nikki Bella and had a great match with Charlotte. Becky and Ronda are absolutely capable of having a good to great one-on-one main event to close Mania. Not to mention, the last four Mania main events have been dogsh*t wrestling matches. Let's stop pretending we get Tokyo Dome main events at WrestleMania. The only good main event of the last five years was because of a MITB cash-in. The bar is low for this match and those two women are fully capable of surpassing that expectation without Charlotte no selling every ing move she takes in the match. Yeah I don't know what the Rhonda hate is all about. She's been improving each match. What she REALLY needs work on is with her promos.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Feb 5, 2019 15:33:34 GMT -5
I think the triple threat makes it more unpredictable. Plus if they wanted to they could have Ronda drop the best without taking the fall. Or if Charlotte wins she can beat Ronda and it protects Becky
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Feb 5, 2019 16:19:26 GMT -5
I think some of you are underestimating the fact that the majority of fans just want to see Becky beat Ronda Rousey. It's a clear desire at this point. The feud is over enough, and the people want it.
So Charlotte isn't needed to produce that. She isn't needed to give the people what they want. She would be better served returning the favor to Asuka.
Adding her where she isn't wanted or needed is damaging imo. She won't get heat, she'll just be resented. Big difference that WWE is blind to, example Cena and Reigns.
So to reiterate, if you think you can produce the desired fan reaction with just the two involved...... leave it at that.
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Post by wormnation on Feb 5, 2019 16:24:08 GMT -5
I don't think Ronda has the in-ring talent yet to go 1 on 1 with the top star in a wrestlemania main event. Adding Charlotte adds to the in ring product.
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Post by McBlake on Feb 5, 2019 16:53:43 GMT -5
I said about this time last year I had no issues with the women main eventing Wrestlemania 35, but only of it made sense story wise, not just because they're women.
The storyline featuring all 3 women absolutely deserves to main event this year, so that's not in question. The only other 2 possibilities are the Universal Champion (who's rarely there and Rollins apparently has nagging injuries) or the WWE Title which we won't even know the holder is until after Elimination Chamber.
There's no way the Raw women's title doesn't main event, regardless of Charlotte's inclusion.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 5, 2019 17:36:15 GMT -5
My only fear is that Charlotte could take the pin. Ronda needs to tap out from Becky's disarmher.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 5, 2019 17:48:34 GMT -5
I think some of you are underestimating the fact that the majority of fans just want to see Becky beat Ronda Rousey. It's a clear desire at this point. The feud is over enough, and the people want it. So Charlotte isn't needed to produce that. She isn't needed to give the people what they want. She would be better served returning the favor to Asuka. Adding her where she isn't wanted or needed is damaging imo. She won't get heat, she'll just be resented. Big difference that WWE is blind to, example Cena and Reigns. So to reiterate, if you think you can produce the desired fan reaction with just the two involved...... leave it at that. And you’re underestimating that some people don’t want Ronda Rousey to lose during her entire WWE run like myself so no way do I want to see Ronda/Becky just because “majority” fans want to see Becky beat her, screw the majority and what they want because it’s not what I want 🤷🏽♂️ Add Charlotte, she won’t lose any credibility at all taking a pin in a potential main event, it’s not even like she’s a random addition because she was involved in the Survivor Series/TLC stuff with both women.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 5, 2019 18:28:23 GMT -5
Off topic, but Nivro I know you will appreciate this. Seeing how she is probably not going to be in any women's title matches this year, I hope they don't merely add Alexa Bliss to the women's battle royal. I hope she is in a meaningful match, whether singles or tag team. Completely biased opinion but I would be totally happy with her moving to SD to challenge Asuka. Without Charlotte & Becky there (assuming both are in the RAW Title match) there really isnt a credible opponent to face her on the SD roster. Even if Asuka goes over, Alexa is a lot more credible then Carmella, Naomi, Mandy or the IIconics being a 5 time champion. However as I tweeted last night, after essentially another pointless "Moment of Bliss" segment and they way they're sexualizing her character out of nowhere....I wont be surprised if in a few weeks we start seeing the reports on dirt sheets that "creative has nothing for Alexa Bliss" which would blow my mind.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 5, 2019 18:29:01 GMT -5
i think that people’s reasoning that Ronda may be exposed and Charlotte can fill the void is dead on. this reminds me of how people were about Benoit/Triple H/HBK. no one saw why hbk was in the match and that he was going to win and Benoit was getting the crap end. meanwhile Benoit had the most glorious moment of his whole career as a result. sorry to use Benoit as a reference, but it was relevant. Excellent comparison. We all know Becky is going over and even if Ronda goes over, it wont matter who's in the match at that point. Becky winning over Ronda AND Charlotte is a boost for her as shes killing 2 birds with one stone essentially. But Becky has already beaten Charlotte...multiple times. Benoit was still seen by a lot of fans as an upper midcarder when he won the Rumble so adding HBK was literally allowing him to go over two guys he never beat before. HBK added to the story. Charlotte does not.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 5, 2019 18:59:07 GMT -5
I've had no issues with Ronda as far as in ring wrestling goes. Sure she gets lost in long promos, but she's delivered in the ring as far as I'm concerned.
Even if it would be one on one, I don't think Ronda would tap out. If she's going to lose, expect it to be a Bret Hart/Roddy Piper WM8 sort of finish.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 5, 2019 19:02:20 GMT -5
I've had no issues with Ronda as far as in ring wrestling goes. Sure she gets lost in long promos, but she's delivered in the ring as far as I'm concerned. Even if it would be one on one, I don't think Ronda would tap out. If she's going to lose, expect it to be a Bret Hart/Roddy Piper WM8 sort of finish. Adding Charlotte gives another out to move the title to Becky without hurting Ronda inexplicable undefeated record.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 19:57:23 GMT -5
Off topic, but Nivro I know you will appreciate this. Seeing how she is probably not going to be in any women's title matches this year, I hope they don't merely add Alexa Bliss to the women's battle royal. I hope she is in a meaningful match, whether singles or tag team. Completely biased opinion but I would be totally happy with her moving to SD to challenge Asuka. Without Charlotte & Becky there (assuming both are in the RAW Title match) there really isnt a credible opponent to face her on the SD roster. Even if Asuka goes over, Alexa is a lot more credible then Carmella, Naomi, Mandy or the IIconics being a 5 time champion. However as I tweeted last night, after essentially another pointless "Moment of Bliss" segment and they way they're sexualizing her character out of nowhere....I wont be surprised if in a few weeks we start seeing the reports on dirt sheets that "creative has nothing for Alexa Bliss" which would blow my mind. I was hoping for Bliss vs Asuka last year. Hopefully somehow we get it this year. If we do, it won't bother me if Charlotte is added to the other match. Maybe we get a trade. Charlotte to raw and Alexa to smackdown!
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Feb 6, 2019 16:38:47 GMT -5
For what it's worth. WWE Fastline is taking place in Cleveland. So the Northeast Ohio area got a local commercial about tickets, and the commercial ran down some matches. One of those matches was Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte. This wasn't advertised last week on the commercial, other matches were but this was added to the commercial. So MAYBE Charlotte vs. Becky at Fastlane is a number one contenders match. Maybe a little bit of sunshine there.
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Post by BSR on Feb 6, 2019 19:40:28 GMT -5
Idk why this is so hard for everyone Charlotte should be added.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Feb 6, 2019 20:30:44 GMT -5
BIG RONDA vs. Becky
Asuka vs. Charlotte
Two big time matchups. Two matches with able talents, clear stories, and immediate heat. Two championship matches that actually matter, and don't involve Naomi.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 6, 2019 20:58:34 GMT -5
BIG RONDA vs. Becky Asuka vs. Charlotte Two big time matchups. Two matches with able talents, clear stories, and immediate heat. Two championship matches that actually matter, and don't involve Naomi. If that was the route they go, Charlotte vs Asuka needs to main event. Last years was a fantastic match. Im sorry people can say "Ronda has had good matches" all they want but its not true. Ronda is protected & her flaws are hidden and you cant do that on a stage like a Mania main event. Completely biased opinion but I would be totally happy with her moving to SD to challenge Asuka. Without Charlotte & Becky there (assuming both are in the RAW Title match) there really isnt a credible opponent to face her on the SD roster. Even if Asuka goes over, Alexa is a lot more credible then Carmella, Naomi, Mandy or the IIconics being a 5 time champion. However as I tweeted last night, after essentially another pointless "Moment of Bliss" segment and they way they're sexualizing her character out of nowhere....I wont be surprised if in a few weeks we start seeing the reports on dirt sheets that "creative has nothing for Alexa Bliss" which would blow my mind. I was hoping for Bliss vs Asuka last year. Hopefully somehow we get it this year. If we do, it won't bother me if Charlotte is added to the other match. Maybe we get a trade. Charlotte to raw and Alexa to smackdown! Id love to see her get a big win at a big PPV since shes like 0-forever at the big 4 but it is what it is.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 6, 2019 22:55:50 GMT -5
I think some of you are underestimating the fact that the majority of fans just want to see Becky beat Ronda Rousey. It's a clear desire at this point. The feud is over enough, and the people want it. So Charlotte isn't needed to produce that. She isn't needed to give the people what they want. She would be better served returning the favor to Asuka. Adding her where she isn't wanted or needed is damaging imo. She won't get heat, she'll just be resented. Big difference that WWE is blind to, example Cena and Reigns. So to reiterate, if you think you can produce the desired fan reaction with just the two involved...... leave it at that. Cena and Reigns have made WWE tons of money, regardless of how much some fans cry about them. If Charlotte Flair is in a triple threat with Rousey and Lynch at WrestleMania, the people whining about it are still going to watch it. And WWE comes out of it with three women who have been WrestleMania main eventers rather than two. And Charlotte becomes an even bigger Internet heel, which they're struggling for at the moment with Cena and Reigns not on the road.
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