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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 16:46:42 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Mar 22, 2024 16:57:13 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news. I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Mar 22, 2024 16:59:42 GMT -5
Really wish they would ditch that body type they’ve used for Bulldog. Looks terrible on Luger too. The tiny knee pads too, what’s with that?
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 17:04:36 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news. I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring. Thanks; I’d expect them to make a bigger deal about it if they were launching in the spring or expanding the line to four sets a year so the normal summer release it is then. Can’t see them revealing any more Retros before SDCC in that case as these will already be five months away.
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Post by mrh on Mar 22, 2024 17:38:31 GMT -5
This series is always a tale of two tapes.
Yankem and Alundra look INCREDIBLE. I think Bulldog is very average -- doesn't look much like a Hasbro, and much worse than his actual Hasbro. And HBK is one of the worst Retros of the recent releases, in my opinion.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 22, 2024 17:44:57 GMT -5
Solid lineup for sure, just meh on the overall execution.
All are needed and good choices. But, I already made a custom of that Yankem which was super easy to do and pretty much looks the same as the photo. The Shawn body looks bad w/those tiny legs, would have much prefferred the AJ/Ryder body.
And Bulldog again as other said, I've always hated that mold, plus we're getting like 4 of him from Mitch which I believe will all be better quality. At least they chose camp Cornette era though, think that's pretty much the only one that none of the other companies have shown off at this point.
But better than attitude or mid 80's, so I'll pick up for sure.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 22, 2024 17:47:14 GMT -5
Have we seen anyone other than the Major Pod say that these are coming-out this Spring? I didn’t see the reveal but haven’t seen anyone else say Spring; the traditional timeline would be the Summer so Spring would be big news. I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring. What is the "70's legends pack"? You mean a retro bundle with guys from the 70's? Really hope not and that's something unrelated.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Mar 22, 2024 18:04:26 GMT -5
I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring. What is the "70's legends pack"? You mean a retro bundle with guys from the 70's? Really hope not and that's something unrelated. I was referring to the 70s elite 4 pack revealed today, I think people may have misheard when that is being released (spring) and the retros was said to be ‘later this year’.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 22, 2024 18:13:53 GMT -5
I thought they said ‘later this year’ for the retros which I’m guessing is summer. The CC set is fall and the 70s legends pack they said would be spring. What is the "70's legends pack"? You mean a retro bundle with guys from the 70's? Really hope not and that's something unrelated. I think he's referring to the Territories elite 4-pack that they showed today.
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Post by RealMattHopkins on Mar 22, 2024 18:26:54 GMT -5
It seems that everyone has "New Generation" fever from the 1994-1997 time period.
1) The updated Shawn Michaels is great. I just recently did a suited Rick Rude custom and paired him with the first retro Shawn Michaels, Triple-H and Chyna. This iteration of Shawn Michaels is more the one we knew and love from his hot run of the mid 90s.
2) The updated British Bulldog is great. I agree with most that the body isn't my favourite. I would rather him be in the Macho King style with the punch. Still, I think he looks great and will look great on the shelf. The managers of the Bulldog's estate are really going all in on the toy deals, it seems.
3) The Isaac Yankem is ridiculous and that's what makes it good. I agree with those above commenting that it is as Hasbro as it gets. Personally, I love the deep cuts. Isaac Yankem is certainly one of those deep cuts. If Hasbro was doing figures in 1995, when he made his debut, you'd almost be guaranteed an Isaac Yankem figure.
4) Alundra Blayze is the MVP of the pack. A few people made customs that are almost as good as this. With Bull Nakano joining the WWE Hall of Fame, I would anticipate seeing her in the Retro line soon--maybe even at the Wrestlemania events where they will almost certainly release the next grouping.
I do echo the disappointment some have expressed. We want Elizabeth, Sherri and Bobby Heenan. I'm not sure what the excuse is for not having those figures made. The fans want them and, I believe, they would sell well and generate WWE, Mattel, and the three estates some good revenue.
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Post by jpower25 on Mar 22, 2024 18:27:04 GMT -5
I like that we’re getting Yankem but it feels like he should have been in the last set with Lawler and Vader could have been saved for this set. Minor issue, I suppose.
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Post by mrh on Mar 22, 2024 19:06:38 GMT -5
I just feel like when you put the Hasbro and now Retro HBK and Bulldog side by side, the new ones don't even come close -- or even look like the same figure line.
Yet Blaze and Yankem really do -- respect others' opinions, but that's mine - and I don't know why it's so hard for Mattel to execute at a consistent quality. But I'll still buy it because they nailed 2 of 4
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Post by RedDevil on Mar 22, 2024 19:07:09 GMT -5
My thoughts on the pack: HBK: I think we all expected a puncher HBK sooner or later; I thought they might have him in a second “Orange Card” set with a few other missing Hasbro pieces, but I’m happy they haven’t used the same ‘92 white and red gear that the Hasbro had. I don’t think I would’ve picked this look from all the options he wore in the early to mid-90s, but it’s a memorable look so fine. The face looks better than the original Retro but I’ll need to have it in hand to really judge. Alundra: Another one we all expected sooner or later, the only question was if she was still available under contract. The existing figure is perfect for her obviously, but I do think they need to introduce another female body soon as we now have three with the same action and pose. I wonder if including the Women’s title was ever a possibility? I really want to start seeing the belts appear in the line. Isaac: Perfect. Great choice of character to include, as well as the action and the accessory. Bulldog: Good to see Davey Boy in the official line. I guess this era was always the most likely for Mattel to go for, but I do wish it was the face shorts Bulldog first, particularly to go with the HBK. I guess we’ll never see that now from Mattel, but Mitch is at least going there, plus the Allied Powers look was one of the original Chella designs which I think Epic are still pursuing so it’s not like we’ll miss them overall. I agree with those who still have reservations about the body action; I’d prefer the Brock version of the slam to get some use but I don’t hate this one. Another thing though is that I guess going for short-hair Bulldog here means that they likely won’t be doing a Hart Foundation set with the four guys they have access to, which is a big disappointment personally. So overall I’m happy; or at least as happy as any Retros collector ever is! I had called for an Attitude Era/Monday Night War set with X-Pac to line-up next to DX, but New Generation is the era I’d like Mattel to focus more on so I thank them for their work here. Now just expand the Creations line to four sets a year and we’ll be set
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 22, 2024 19:55:33 GMT -5
I just feel like when you put the Hasbro and now Retro HBK and Bulldog side by side, the new ones don't even come close -- or even look like the same figure line. Yet Blaze and Yankem really do -- respect others' opinions, but that's mine - and I don't know why it's so hard for Mattel to execute at a consistent quality. But I'll still buy it because they nailed 2 of 4 They can't execute consistent quality because this line is being done on the cheap, and they refuse to make new and better molds. And need to squeeze as much out of existing molds. But even that being said, they do have a perfect mold for HBK that would have looked way better IMO, the Ryder/AJ mold, has the kick pads and the body is nicely proportioned. Again, I'd rather they up the price a bit if it meant better execution.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 22, 2024 19:58:53 GMT -5
My thoughts on the pack: HBK: I think we all expected a puncher HBK sooner or later; I thought they might have him in a second “Orange Card” set with a few other missing Hasbro pieces, but I’m happy they haven’t used the same ‘92 white and red gear that the Hasbro had. I don’t think I would’ve picked this look from all the options he wore in the early to mid-90s, but it’s a memorable look so fine. The face looks better than the original Retro but I’ll need to have it in hand to really judge. Alundra: Another one we all expected sooner or later, the only question was if she was still available under contract. The existing figure is perfect for her obviously, but I do think they need to introduce another female body soon as we now have three with the same action and pose. I wonder if including the Women’s title was ever a possibility? I really want to start seeing the belts appear in the line. Isaac: Perfect. Great choice of character to include, as well as the action and the accessory. Bulldog: Good to see Davey Boy in the official line. I guess this era was always the most likely for Mattel to go for, but I do wish it was the face shorts Bulldog first, particularly to go with the HBK. I guess we’ll never see that now from Mattel, but Mitch is at least going there, plus the Allied Powers look was one of the original Chella designs which I think Epic are still pursuing so it’s not like we’ll miss them overall. I agree with those who still have reservations about the body action; I’d prefer the Brock version of the slam to get some use but I don’t hate this one. Another thing though is that I guess going for short-hair Bulldog here means that they likely won’t be doing a Hart Foundation set with the four guys they have access to, which is a big disappointment personally. So overall I’m happy; or at least as happy as any Retros collector ever is! I had called for an Attitude Era/Monday Night War set with X-Pac to line-up next to DX, but New Generation is the era I’d like Mattel to focus more on so I thank them for there work here. Now just expand the Creations line to four sets a year and we’ll be set Good points, I do hope they make a singles Bret too at some point, Hart Foundation or face/world champion period would be cool, but with Bret I really worry about exectution too, I can't see him looking great with any of the existing molds. My dream would be to get a face version with molded entrance jacket, but I know Mattel would never do it.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 22, 2024 20:07:52 GMT -5
So, this gets me thinking, once it's all said and done, I think I'll end up with 7 Davey figs!
1. Bulldogs Tag Team (Epic) 2. 1990/91 (Hasbro) 3. 1992 (Hastel) 4. 1993 WCW (Epic?) 5. 1994/95 (Hastel) 6. 1996/camp cornette (Mattel) 7. 1997/Hart Foundation (Hastel)
At least by my tally at this point, not positive though, is the WCW one still happening? And is that Epic or some other Chella off-shoot? And are they also doing an Allied Powers attire maybe? And was there also a Bulldogs version in white too maybe?
Lots of Bulldogs either way.
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Post by bigvis497 on Mar 22, 2024 20:31:41 GMT -5
Don't need another HBK but I'm glad they improved the head, and I like that we have a new punch body (I think?). I'll take it.
Yankem is awesome, but soft goods feels "off" for a retro. But Berzerker had them, so I guess it works.
Blayze is perfect. Looks just like the custom that popped up here not too long ago. She absolutely would have had a figure if Hasbro made females. Win!
I like Bulldog but hate that body. I like how his face looks, reminds me of his original Hasbro. Davey Boy always had a chubby face, and this short hair version looks better than the recent Greatest Hits Elite. Good likeness, but please Mattel, retire that body.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 22, 2024 20:48:17 GMT -5
I just feel like when you put the Hasbro and now Retro HBK and Bulldog side by side, the new ones don't even come close -- or even look like the same figure line. Yet Blaze and Yankem really do -- respect others' opinions, but that's mine - and I don't know why it's so hard for Mattel to execute at a consistent quality. But I'll still buy it because they nailed 2 of 4 They can't execute consistent quality because this line is being done on the cheap, and they refuse to make new and better molds. And need to squeeze as much out of existing molds. But even that being said, they do have a perfect mold for HBK that would have looked way better IMO, the Ryder/AJ mold, has the kick pads and the body is nicely proportioned. Again, I'd rather they up the price a bit if it meant better execution.This, all day. If they could up the price, then maybe they could create unique molds for each wrestler like the early Hasbro's did. Since most of the retro collectors are older, I don't think they would mind a bit of a cost increase if the quality were much better. I think if Mattel went this route, they could execute their figures on the same par as some of Hasttels and Zombie's best figure but also include "actions" that the smaller companies can't. Plus, they would have a larger roster to choose from.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Mar 22, 2024 20:54:41 GMT -5
i love seeing hbk with the punch action. i think it would've been cooler if they did the hasbro blue card black/silver gear for it, but it is what it is. i've only ever bought 4 retros(and from series 1 at that), but i might get this set simply to have a punch action hbk that all us 90s kids wanted after seeing the prototype in ads back in the day
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Post by mrh on Mar 23, 2024 0:57:33 GMT -5
They can't execute consistent quality because this line is being done on the cheap, and they refuse to make new and better molds. And need to squeeze as much out of existing molds. But even that being said, they do have a perfect mold for HBK that would have looked way better IMO, the Ryder/AJ mold, has the kick pads and the body is nicely proportioned. Again, I'd rather they up the price a bit if it meant better execution.This, all day. If they could up the price, then maybe they could create unique molds for each wrestler like the early Hasbro's did. Since most of the retro collectors are older, I don't think they would mind a bit of a cost increase if the quality were much better. I think if Mattel went this route, they could execute their figures on the same par as some of Hasttels and Zombie's best figure but also include "actions" that the smaller companies can't. Plus, they would have a larger roster to choose from.
I 100% agree with this. I would rather pay more, and have better quality. I wish Action Figure Attack would respond to that request, though I assume it's going to be a no.
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