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Post by legendsguy on Jul 1, 2019 17:44:45 GMT -5
forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/359064/mattel-takeover-elite-series-protoper americanhyena his thread May 25, 2019 at 1:03pm via mobile Post by americanhyena on May 25, 2019 at 1:03pm I guess not completely confirmed until he announces something publicly but one of my best friends, Jeff (whom a bunch of you probably recognize as the guy who cuts...let’s call them “heel promos”...at WWE fan panels at SDCC and other things) is at Double or Nothing. He just ran into Bill and asked about the elite NXT Itami figure (which is a figure he’s literally been dying for since Itami arrived) and Bill told him it was indeed cancelled and that that whole wave probably won’t see release as it stood. I guess this was definitely a possibility but we weren’t really sure how far along into production it was. Anyhow, womp womp. Haven’t been as active on here lately so if this was already announced, apologies in advance. 5/26 UPDATE: New proto pics of Series 5 have emerged (click the spoiler tags below). According to Bill Miekina on Instagram, Hideo Itami is not coming out. As of now, the wave will consist of three figures including Andrade "Cien" Almas, Roderick Strong, and Titus O'Neil. Please disregard the statement at the top of this thread about the whole wave probably not seeing a release. That part isn't true." im guessing that changed now.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jul 1, 2019 17:50:39 GMT -5
I think the main reason people are taking issue is because they hyped up the reveal only for it to be a figure we thought would be appearing on shelves any time now, and also now it’ll be in October. I think if the announcement wasn’t hyped it’d be fine. It made everyone assume it was going to be something new. Exactly. We saw the full painted prototypes LAST SDCC! It’s absolutely ridiculous. Plus now we gotta wait till October for 1 OF THEM! This is just absolutely ridiculous from Mattel. If they had just went “Ya know what this has been ridiculous let’s just drop them all in Mid July on Ringside” I would’ve been cool with it. But instead we gotta wait another 3 MONTHS! This is just incredibly infuriating I'm on board with all you. they hyped it up like it was something we haven't seen yet. I'm glad there trying to find a way to put out Andrade cause I like him but c'mon a Exclusive.they could have put him in elite 70 and replaced seth or finn. since they are in the top talent and put someone we haven't seen or a good flashback figure
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Jul 1, 2019 17:53:43 GMT -5
What’s funny is like a month ago I swear the thread was on here somewhere where they were talking about Itami being cancelled. Didn’t bill or AFA chime in and say this line wasn’t canceled? Because that was the rumors or whatever Some of you guys on here can act like everything is perfect in Mattel world. But it’s obviously not HOC ended, Flashbacks Elites and Basics ended, NXT Elite line and Basic line ended, Ultimate Deletion dropped (Epic Moments done presumably?), what’s next? No more Retros, No more Ultimate Editions after Shinsuke doesn’t sell at all (if they ever make it to real retail in the first place) honestly im surprised the retro line has lasted this long , it outlived my intial prediction..lol I always see them rotting in my stores..UE too early to tell , but im not even sure there doing well at all. $30 bucks always seems like a hard sell for Mattel. they barely made it at 24.99 a figure with DM and then EG relaunched at around 30 right? lol...I don't give it long honestly. Retros surprised me as well. I get that other companies put out vintage-style figure lines before to much success but I thought the Retros were a little niche. I guess I was wrong on that one and I'm happy for those who collect them (And finally getting a Hasbro-styled Goldust and Diesel). You'd think that Ultimate Edition will be a big seller, and in a way I hope it is. Again, other companies have that premium line tailor made for adult collectors and this is Mattel's take. From what I've seen they're very impressive but a tad steep compared to say NECA's Ultimates. We'll see once they hit stores, assuming they order them.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jul 1, 2019 17:53:43 GMT -5
How can NXT elites be cancelled if I never even saw an Aleister Black once? Oh yeah because Bath time Rusev and Top Picks rotting....
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Post by taserface on Jul 1, 2019 17:58:48 GMT -5
honestly im surprised the retro line has lasted this long , it outlived my intial prediction..lol I always see them rotting in my stores..UE too early to tell , but im not even sure there doing well at all. $30 bucks always seems like a hard sell for Mattel. they barely made it at 24.99 a figure with DM and then EG relaunched at around 30 right? lol...I don't give it long honestly. Retros surprised me as well. I get that other companies put out vintage-style figure lines before to much success but I thought the Retros were a little niche. I guess I was wrong on that one and I'm happy for those who collect them (And finally getting a Hasbro-styled Goldust and Diesel). You'd think that Ultimate Edition will be a big seller, and in a way I hope it is. Again, other companies have that premium line tailor made for adult collectors and this is Mattel's take. From what I've seen they're very impressive but a tad steep compared to say NECA's Ultimates. We'll see once they hit stores, assuming they order them. I hope for the best for U.E. But not a good sign that Target or Wal Mart, and not even GameStop have Series 1 and Series 2 is already shipping from RSC I guess we will see what happens with it
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 1, 2019 18:15:09 GMT -5
Hopefully Vince is a mid 80s or early 90s fig.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 1, 2019 18:23:41 GMT -5
This is exactly it. Don’t hype a reveal for it to be an old figure tjatgot shelved. What you’re really revealing is the other 3 disappearing haha. If this had just popped up on site I’d have been pretty happy. As it is I’ll still order eventually I’d say, but I woke up here excited (Australia) and went “oh that’s it”. Don’t think that’s what they were going for. What’s funny is like a month ago I swear the thread was on here somewhere where they were talking about Itami being cancelled. Didn’t bill or AFA chime in and say this line wasn’t canceled? Because that was the rumors or whatever Some of you guys on here can act like everything is perfect in Mattel world. But it’s obviously not HOC ended, Flashbacks Elites and Basics ended, NXT Elite line and Basic line ended, Ultimate Deletion dropped (Epic Moments done presumably?), what’s next? No more Retros, No more Ultimate Editions after Shinsuke doesn’t sell at all (if they ever make it to real retail in the first place) That is EXACTLY the issue. You can split hairs and say the set wasn't cancelled, but I think most collectors took that comment to mean that the set would be released as expected at Target. I believe AFA posted to Instagram. The figure is fine for what it is. But you can't say that retailers cancelling orders when painted, boxed samples have been shown *months* earlier isn't an issue for the line. Healthy products do not have retailers pulling orders for product regularly. And it has been happening far too frequently, along with outright line cancellations. Those are not indicators of a healthy product. Off the top of my head, I can't think of an instance in another figure line where a product was marketed, final product shown, and then the retailer completely killed the order. We've seen it multiple times in the WWE line within the past year or two. It's nice that they find other ways to release some of these figures, but of course they do. The design and sculpting on these figures are a sunk cost, and any business is going to do whatever possible to recoup those costs. I don't think it's doom and gloom for the line, but there is a very, very clear disconnect between Mattel, their retail partners, and the consumer. And that's not good for business, no matter how you cut it.
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Post by WOOOOOO on Jul 1, 2019 18:43:06 GMT -5
honestly im surprised the retro line has lasted this long , it outlived my intial prediction..lol I always see them rotting in my stores..UE too early to tell , but im not even sure there doing well at all. $30 bucks always seems like a hard sell for Mattel. they barely made it at 24.99 a figure with DM and then EG relaunched at around 30 right? lol...I don't give it long honestly. Retros surprised me as well. I get that other companies put out vintage-style figure lines before to much success but I thought the Retros were a little niche. I guess I was wrong on that one and I'm happy for those who collect them (And finally getting a Hasbro-styled Goldust and Diesel). You'd think that Ultimate Edition will be a big seller, and in a way I hope it is. Again, other companies have that premium line tailor made for adult collectors and this is Mattel's take. From what I've seen they're very impressive but a tad steep compared to say NECA's Ultimates. We'll see once they hit stores, assuming they order them. The ultimate editions are the exact same price as all of NECA's ultimate figures. $27.99. Just have to wait a bit from when they release. Rousey is this price now. Warrior and bret will take longer but shinsuke will be there soon too
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Post by Purple Reigns on Jul 1, 2019 18:51:41 GMT -5
I have a custom blue Andrade that I bought a year ago that I love, may get this as I lost the NXT title that came with Roode and an updated Andrade headscan could always be used.
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Post by FUSamBaker on Jul 1, 2019 19:32:46 GMT -5
Can’t wait for the IIconics.
Sooooo is Andrade the only one going to RSC? This is possibly a good sign. Hopefully all the exclusives will just be on RSC now. And chain stores wonder why they are losing business to online 🙄
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 1, 2019 19:39:59 GMT -5
So clearly nxt5 is dead. Not what i was expecting. Hopefully Vince is an 80s flashback. That's what I'm hoping for.
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on Jul 1, 2019 21:55:17 GMT -5
One would think that Target would be all about the NXT series after the way Black, McIntyre, Ruby and Dane sold. But I guess bathtime Rusev was too great of a negative offset. That's disappointing.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 1, 2019 22:51:37 GMT -5
It's good for Almas fans. He probably doesn't justify a main line figure at this point. So it's lucky that Bill already had him finished. It's a nice figure. It's just incredibly underwhelming that a Ringside exclusive is a figure we've already seen that should already be on store shelves. I won't be a hypocrite. I'm definitely not buying that Almas but we got Kendrick the same way and I absolutely love that figure. Had we not known NXT5 was coming, Almas would be a good pick for an exclusive given his brief popularity coming out of that Gargano match.
I was hoping for Wolfpac Luger, honestly. Hopefully we still get that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 5:52:13 GMT -5
Awesome - another Bryan for the collection! I'm guessing it'll be based on his first title defense.
Also excited to see what Vince McMahon we get.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jul 2, 2019 17:26:51 GMT -5
Exactly. We saw the full painted prototypes LAST SDCC! It’s absolutely ridiculous. Plus now we gotta wait till October for 1 OF THEM! This is just absolutely ridiculous from Mattel. If they had just went “Ya know what this has been ridiculous let’s just drop them all in Mid July on Ringside” I would’ve been cool with it. But instead we gotta wait another 3 MONTHS! This is just incredibly infuriating I'm on board with all you. they hyped it up like it was something we haven't seen yet. I'm glad there trying to find a way to put out Andrade cause I like him but c'mon a Exclusive.they could have put him in elite 70 and replaced seth or finn. since they are in the top talent and put someone we haven't seen or a good flashback figure Exactly this. Hyped up like it was going to be one of their own that no one has seen yet. Only to find out it's one that we saw a year ago and that only a handful of people seem excited for. And stop putting top talent figures in the regular elite line!
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Post by LA Times on Jul 2, 2019 18:58:49 GMT -5
Can’t wait for the IIconics. Sooooo is Andrade the only one going to RSC? This is possibly a good sign. Hopefully all the exclusives will just be on RSC now. And chain stores wonder why they are losing business to online 🙄 Maybe Target simply did not want the NXT 5 Series. 3000 cases of NXT Elites is only a miniscule percentage of their business and its probably not the best selling Mattel WWE line they carry.
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Post by Bobby Heenan on Jul 3, 2019 11:42:17 GMT -5
Sdcc will probably just be all the unreleased figures shown again with new homes If that's what it takes to actually get Richter, Gorilla and others instead of more of the same old, I'm game
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 3, 2019 14:17:32 GMT -5
Sdcc will probably just be all the unreleased figures shown again with new homes If that's what it takes to actually get Richter, Gorilla and others instead of more of the same old, I'm game Agreed, at this point I’d rather just know we’ll get Richter, Gorilla, and another shot at King Harley. And we won’t have to wait a year or more for them (we’ve waited long enough) As a flashback collector we’re still waiting on Perfect & Sheik GameStop exclusives as well. So even if they do show new things it’ll probably be so far off in the future that we we shouldn’t get exited for it.
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Post by Da Handsome 1 on Jul 3, 2019 14:43:27 GMT -5
Elite 69 MOC pics on Twitter. @mahoney_413 check em out & give him a follow.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jul 3, 2019 16:36:03 GMT -5
Elite 69 MOC pics on Twitter. @mahoney_413 check em out & give him a follow. Just checked em out, man they look even better moc! Definitely agree with him, one of the best Elite sets ever. Thanks for letting us know!
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