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Post by jershocenationyes on Aug 3, 2021 1:52:47 GMT -5
Main roster him and send at least two people back to NXT
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Post by casanova on Aug 3, 2021 4:55:52 GMT -5
If the question is if WWE should keep Adam Cole -- absolutely. If the question is if Adam Cole should stay with the WWE -- probably not. From my vantage point, I don't think he is getting treated with respect where he is now. I think NXT peaked in 2019 and I think he was right along with it. Since then, he has been floating around with no real direction or issue on TV. The UE breaking up should have been the storyline of the year. Instead, it only got buzz for two or three days online and was dropped pretty quickly on TV. Not to mention, Cole is a performer that has been main roster ready for years. The least WWE can do is pay him what he's worth regardless of being in NXT, or just move him up into an important program. He's a small guy but I think that simply cannot be an excuse for failing WWE talent anymore. Fans do not care about the size of a performer anymore. If I was any NXT talent that has been with the program for over two years, I'd be fearful of what's next for me. People are built for years to be deemed a valuable player and then given up to the main roster just to fail. These failures are not the talent's fault. I would hate to see it but I could definitely see Cole going to RAW or SmackDown with a hot issue for a few months, just to be lost in the shuffle. He deserves so much more than that. His other option is of course AEW. He can be with a lot of lifelong friends, make great money, work a light schedule like he is now, work independent shots and NJPW, be with his girlfriend, and have a lot of momentum behind him. Not to argue WWE versus AEW, but the creative direction that AEW takes is light years above WWE's current product. I could never imagine Cole going there and becoming just another dude. Especially with people like CM Punk and Bryan Danielson rumored to come in, AEW is about to skyrocket once again if these come true. I think the best move for Cole right now would be to look for another opportunity. WWE would be idiots to let this guy go but it would not surprise me in the slightest. All valid points, but you miss one aspect: Cole did not compete on Wrestlemania yet. This may sound a little stupid, but being part of Wrestlemania means so much for any of the guys. If he signs a new contract he may be able to fill the hole Daniel Bryan has left. Wrestlemania 2022 is a realistic scenario for him. I am almost sure he will continue with WWE, and I sure hope so. Promote him and O’Reilly to Smackdown and give them a program for the IC/US title with a final ladder match at Wrestlemania. Same for Gargano and Ciampa - missed opportunities...
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Post by walkingturtles on Aug 3, 2021 6:00:26 GMT -5
AEW has enough people and if they just keep bringing in WWE guys, the talent who have been there since the beginning are going to begin to sour as they’ll continue to be lowered on the totem pole Like who? Joey Janella and Sonny Kiss lol. You get the best players, if Adam Cole comes in and takes a spot from an AEW homegrown talent so be it, you roll with the best talent period. That homegrown AEW talent needs to be working their ass off to step up and be ready because top talent is coming. Also, I would love to see Cole do a year or two with MLW/Impact first.
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Post by McBlake on Aug 3, 2021 6:16:22 GMT -5
I really hope he sticks two fingers up at it, tells em where to go in the most brutal and impactful fashion. Lol, why the hell would he do that? He's been one of the best booked guys in the company the past half decade. Would that change if he were to move to the main roster? Maybe, but even his one and only appearance in Smsckdown he pinned Daniel Bryan.
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Post by LK3 on Aug 3, 2021 8:26:53 GMT -5
Obviously the answer is yes, WWE should keep him. I’m sure Triple H will do whatever he can to try to keep Cole on board. This feels like it could just be a matter of what Cole wants to do and won’t have that much to do with the money.
Personally, I’m not sure what I would prefer. Whatever he decides, it will be for the best. #DaParty just survived Breeze’s release, but it’s not gonna survive if Chugs is All Elite.
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Aug 3, 2021 9:03:50 GMT -5
If the question is if WWE should keep Adam Cole -- absolutely. If the question is if Adam Cole should stay with the WWE -- probably not. From my vantage point, I don't think he is getting treated with respect where he is now. I think NXT peaked in 2019 and I think he was right along with it. Since then, he has been floating around with no real direction or issue on TV. The UE breaking up should have been the storyline of the year. Instead, it only got buzz for two or three days online and was dropped pretty quickly on TV. Not to mention, Cole is a performer that has been main roster ready for years. The least WWE can do is pay him what he's worth regardless of being in NXT, or just move him up into an important program. He's a small guy but I think that simply cannot be an excuse for failing WWE talent anymore. Fans do not care about the size of a performer anymore. If I was any NXT talent that has been with the program for over two years, I'd be fearful of what's next for me. People are built for years to be deemed a valuable player and then given up to the main roster just to fail. These failures are not the talent's fault. I would hate to see it but I could definitely see Cole going to RAW or SmackDown with a hot issue for a few months, just to be lost in the shuffle. He deserves so much more than that. His other option is of course AEW. He can be with a lot of lifelong friends, make great money, work a light schedule like he is now, work independent shots and NJPW, be with his girlfriend, and have a lot of momentum behind him. Not to argue WWE versus AEW, but the creative direction that AEW takes is light years above WWE's current product. I could never imagine Cole going there and becoming just another dude. Especially with people like CM Punk and Bryan Danielson rumored to come in, AEW is about to skyrocket once again if these come true. I think the best move for Cole right now would be to look for another opportunity. WWE would be idiots to let this guy go but it would not surprise me in the slightest. All valid points, but you miss one aspect: Cole did not compete on Wrestlemania yet. This may sound a little stupid, but being part of Wrestlemania means so much for any of the guys. If he signs a new contract he may be able to fill the hole Daniel Bryan has left. Wrestlemania 2022 is a realistic scenario for him. I am almost sure he will continue with WWE, and I sure hope so. Promote him and O’Reilly to Smackdown and give them a program for the IC/US title with a final ladder match at Wrestlemania. Same for Gargano and Ciampa - missed opportunities... I get that! This dude LOVES WWE. He grew up loving it and he has always been a perfect fit in the company. I can only imagine this is his dream and he will do anything he can to make it work. I don't think the current product is what he's looking for, though. I'd say that given how talented he is, he should leave and come back. Get out of the company while its in this rut and come back for big money in a few years. WWE truly doesn't blackball anyone. No way that Cole leaving now would burn a bridge.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Aug 3, 2021 9:05:40 GMT -5
Triple H should definitely try his best to keep him and I would hope he stays there or if he's gotta go to the main roster SmackDown seems like a good landing place but if he's going to Raw I rather see him move to somewhere else
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 12:18:13 GMT -5
He should get out while he can
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Post by PrincessOfSunlight on Aug 3, 2021 12:22:48 GMT -5
I really hope he sticks two fingers up at it, tells em where to go in the most brutal and impactful fashion. Lol, why the hell would he do that? He's been one of the best booked guys in the company the past half decade. Would that change if he were to move to the main roster? Maybe, but even his one and only appearance in Smsckdown he pinned Daniel Bryan. Except it’s been made clear, NXT and even such a win mean very little when all is said and done. Nobody dreams growing up to be the best booked guy for OVW and that’s your lot. There isn’t a chance of him achieving anything more than he has done in WWE. The fact they didn’t even clock his contract expiring shows how much they have planned for the guy.
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Post by CymruX2 on Aug 3, 2021 12:54:52 GMT -5
Keep him at NXT. He's a merch mover and ticket seller, so there's no reason to let him go as long as he's under the protective shield of the NXT banner, there's no reason why he shouldn't be fine there.
If he moved to Raw he would be chasing the 24/7 title within 18 months, he's a small guy and that'd stand out on the main shows
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Post by FLUX '97 on Aug 4, 2021 12:18:17 GMT -5
Should they keep him? Yes, absolutely.
Should he leave? Depends on if he's happy or if another promotion (likely AEW) offers him what he wants. He, along with Gargano, Ciampa, and Io, have done pretty much everything there is to do on NXT, and I think he could wind up on the main roster after SummerSlam if he chooses to re-sign. He is good friends with The Young Bucks and dating or engaged to Britt, so there's definitely feelers being sent from AEW.
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Post by Rocky Balboa on Aug 5, 2021 4:42:00 GMT -5
I think he would do more good in AEW.
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Post by Eugene69 on Aug 5, 2021 14:37:00 GMT -5
AEW has enough people and if they just keep bringing in WWE guys, the talent who have been there since the beginning are going to begin to sour as they’ll continue to be lowered on the totem pole other than Christian, they’ve brought in guys who established themselves in the indies who spent some time in wwe. don’t get it mixed it up. punk, Bryan, Mox etc aren’t wwe guys. if they were the Vincels wouldn’t call them indie darlings. haha
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 5, 2021 14:56:36 GMT -5
AEW has enough people and if they just keep bringing in WWE guys, the talent who have been there since the beginning are going to begin to sour as they’ll continue to be lowered on the totem pole other than Christian, they’ve brought in guys who established themselves in the indies who spent some time in wwe. don’t get it mixed it up. punk, Bryan, Mox etc aren’t wwe guys. if they were the Vincels wouldn’t call them indie darlings. Miro, FTR, Hager, Matt Hardy, Spears, and Cody himself were all notable WWE guys. Still, I don’t see anything with bringing in guys that made their name in WWE or anyone that leaves WWE. It’s just with recent signings and rumored ones, it would be throwing Cole into a spot that could go to someone else on the roster. Looks at Page. Page defeating Omega at the biggest show of the year should be the obvious choice, but it’s being delayed because they are brining in Punk and Bryan. It would be the equivalent if WWF signed Sting right before Wrestlemania 14 and decided to push Austin beating Michaels until Backlash. You bring in Cole too, who does he take a spot from or who gets less time?
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Post by k5 on Aug 5, 2021 16:38:11 GMT -5
other than Christian, they’ve brought in guys who established themselves in the indies who spent some time in wwe. don’t get it mixed it up. punk, Bryan, Mox etc aren’t wwe guys. if they were the Vincels wouldn’t call them indie darlings. Miro, FTR, Hager, Matt Hardy, Spears, and Cody himself were all notable WWE guys. Still, I don’t see anything with bringing in guys that made their name in WWE or anyone that leaves WWE. It’s just with recent signings and rumored ones, it would be throwing Cole into a spot that could go to someone else on the roster. Looks at Page. Page defeating Omega at the biggest show of the year should be the obvious choice, but it’s being delayed because they are brining in Punk and Bryan. It would be the equivalent if WWF signed Sting right before Wrestlemania 14 and decided to push Austin beating Michaels until Backlash. You bring in Cole too, who does he take a spot from or who gets less time? Cody established himself more in Japan and the indies than his time in WWE. but the rest I’ll concede to - I was more referring to those who are in their main event positions. the wm14 comparison isn’t really valid as it wasn’t planned out a year away. a more valid comparison would be sting/hogan at starrcade and the year build to it. and even then, they went with the flow of the audience and what was hot and let lex get the title before losing it back to hogan. everyone that’s worried that page goes down and not up from punk and Bryan coming in, is being creatively vapid IMO.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 5, 2021 16:53:07 GMT -5
Miro, FTR, Hager, Matt Hardy, Spears, and Cody himself were all notable WWE guys. Still, I don’t see anything with bringing in guys that made their name in WWE or anyone that leaves WWE. It’s just with recent signings and rumored ones, it would be throwing Cole into a spot that could go to someone else on the roster. Looks at Page. Page defeating Omega at the biggest show of the year should be the obvious choice, but it’s being delayed because they are brining in Punk and Bryan. It would be the equivalent if WWF signed Sting right before Wrestlemania 14 and decided to push Austin beating Michaels until Backlash. You bring in Cole too, who does he take a spot from or who gets less time? Cody established himself more in Japan and the indies than his time in WWE. but the rest I’ll concede to - I was more referring to those who are in their main event positions. the wm14 comparison isn’t really valid as it wasn’t planned out a year away. a more valid comparison would be sting/hogan at starrcade and the year build to it. and even then, they went with the flow of the audience and what was hot and let lex get the title before losing it back to hogan. everyone that’s worried that page goes down and not up from punk and Bryan coming in, is being creatively vapid IMO. Cody was with WWE for nearly a decade and was well established. Plus, you know, his last name helped. His time in Japan and the indies just booked him higher on the card.
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Post by k5 on Aug 5, 2021 16:55:21 GMT -5
Cody established himself more in Japan and the indies than his time in WWE. but the rest I’ll concede to - I was more referring to those who are in their main event positions. the wm14 comparison isn’t really valid as it wasn’t planned out a year away. a more valid comparison would be sting/hogan at starrcade and the year build to it. and even then, they went with the flow of the audience and what was hot and let lex get the title before losing it back to hogan. everyone that’s worried that page goes down and not up from punk and Bryan coming in, is being creatively vapid IMO. Cody was with WWE for nearly a decade and was well established. Plus, you know, his last name helped. His time in Japan and the indies just booked him higher on the card. he never really clicked in wwe. he certified himself as a main event level talent, rounded out his game, and put his name on the map with the elite. he was less of a name than ted dibiase jr, you gonna say he still has name value from his time in wwe too?
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 5, 2021 17:02:59 GMT -5
Cody was with WWE for nearly a decade and was well established. Plus, you know, his last name helped. His time in Japan and the indies just booked him higher on the card. he never really clicked in wwe. he certified himself as a main event level talent, rounded out his game, and put his name on the map with the elite. he was less of a name than ted dibiase jr, you gonna say he still has name value from his time in wwe too? How was he less of a name than Ted Jr? The guy had multiple intercontinental championship runs, worked Show and Mysterio at Wrestlemanias. Was part of one the Shields biggest storylines. Worked a Summerslam program with the Arrow guy. Cody had a damn solid WWE run that you must have slept through.
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Post by k5 on Aug 5, 2021 17:09:25 GMT -5
he never really clicked in wwe. he certified himself as a main event level talent, rounded out his game, and put his name on the map with the elite. he was less of a name than ted dibiase jr, you gonna say he still has name value from his time in wwe too? How was he less of a name than Ted Jr? The guy had multiple intercontinental championship runs, worked Show and Mysterio at Wrestlemanias. Was part of one the Shields biggest storylines. Worked a Summerslam program with the Arrow guy. Cody had a damn solid WWE run that you must have slept through. Ted was the guy they initially used more prominently. and I guess I must’ve missed some of that between the stardust gimmick. the shield feud with the Rhodes brothers was good though, that had slipped my mind. the wwe product has been so bad for so long that I’ve missed a lot. lol nonetheless, I believe Cody has done more in the last 5 years in the wrestling world than his entire run in wish wash wwe, and that he hyped his value to the modern wrestling fan through those means. hence why he left in the first place. to establish himself.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 6, 2021 5:32:13 GMT -5
They would be silly to let Cole go, I think. The opposition are supposedly bringing in Punk... Well you have a younger, ready-made version of Punk, in Adam Cole.
Also, not to make this about Rhodes... But he left WWE because he wasn't good enough to main-event there. As I've said before, he's not his Father, and he's not his Brother - he's got no personality or charisma, or star quality. What he does have, is an over-inflated view of himself and his ability... Which is why - after going small-time on the indies for a bit, he went and found a super-rich, mark, to buy him a wrestling company and the main-event spot he thinks he's worthy of.
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