ClassicFan2
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Joined on: Oct 22, 2010 15:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Nov 28, 2022 12:44:39 GMT -5
andre was a GREAT heel!
kinda scared me at survivor series 87 as a kid
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Post by The Brain on Nov 28, 2022 14:42:30 GMT -5
You're probably not going to get a lot of people to agree with you on this, Perfect was a great wrestler - IMO, and he was one of the better IC champions - his run in 1990/91 was tremendous. Add to it, the pairing of him with the Brain, and it was one of the best. I do agree with you that Hogan seemed to do both heel and face the best. When he was the immortal Hulk Hogan, he was the most over guy in the business, and when he was Hollywood Hogan, he was the most despised guy in the business. I would also say that Savage did a great job as both a heel and a face. Of course you would!   Personally though I liked him better as a heel.I'm with ya here. You can tell he was having a ball with it. Look no further than this all timer.... |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 28, 2022 15:19:08 GMT -5
You're probably not going to get a lot of people to agree with you on this, Perfect was a great wrestler - IMO, and he was one of the better IC champions - his run in 1990/91 was tremendous. Add to it, the pairing of him with the Brain, and it was one of the best. I do agree with you that Hogan seemed to do both heel and face the best. When he was the immortal Hulk Hogan, he was the most over guy in the business, and when he was Hollywood Hogan, he was the most despised guy in the business. I would also say that Savage did a great job as both a heel and a face. Of course you would! Personally though I liked him better as a heel. What are you trying to say... that I'm biased... Maybe so... but I have a hard time choosing between him as a heel or a face. I really liked his run as the Macho King, but I also enjoyed his two babyface WWF championship runs in 88/89 and 1992. I also really liked his babyface run in WCW as the champion, and his feud against Flair. But he was also great as a heel IC champion and as a heel in the NWO, especially his feud with DDP. Hard to pick which he did better. |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 28, 2022 15:24:05 GMT -5
Of course you would! Personally though I liked him better as a heel. What are you trying to say... that I'm biased... Maybe so... but I have a hard time choosing between him as a heel or a face. I really liked his run as the Macho King, but I also enjoyed his two babyface WWF championship runs in 88/89 and 1992. I also really liked his babyface run in WCW as the champion, and his feud against Flair. But he was also great as a heel IC champion and as a heel in the NWO, especially his feud with DDP. Hard to pick which he did better. With how awesome his IC and King runs were, I'm gonna give the nod to heel. Plus no cowboy hat during those time periods |
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Post by PJ on Nov 28, 2022 15:31:38 GMT -5
What are you trying to say... that I'm biased... Maybe so... but I have a hard time choosing between him as a heel or a face. I really liked his run as the Macho King, but I also enjoyed his two babyface WWF championship runs in 88/89 and 1992. I also really liked his babyface run in WCW as the champion, and his feud against Flair. But he was also great as a heel IC champion and as a heel in the NWO, especially his feud with DDP. Hard to pick which he did better. With how awesome his IC and King runs were, I'm gonna give the nod to heel. Plus no cowboy hat during those time periods Ding…ding…ding!!! Number 1 Answer! |
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Post by PJ on Nov 28, 2022 15:33:38 GMT -5
Of course you would! Personally though I liked him better as a heel. .. Maybe so... but I have a hard time choosing between him as a heel or a face. I really liked his run as the Macho King, but I also enjoyed his two babyface WWF championship runs in 88/89 and 1992. I also really liked his babyface run in WCW as the champion, and his feud against Flair. But he was also great as a heel IC champion and as a heel in the NWO, especially his feud with DDP. Hard to pick which he did better. Maybe just a little. Personally for almost everyone who were great at both I preferred their heel work more. |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 28, 2022 15:36:52 GMT -5
With how awesome his IC and King runs were, I'm gonna give the nod to heel. Plus no cowboy hat during those time periods Ding…ding…ding!!! Number 1 Answer!  |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 28, 2022 18:26:55 GMT -5
What are you trying to say... that I'm biased... Maybe so... but I have a hard time choosing between him as a heel or a face. I really liked his run as the Macho King, but I also enjoyed his two babyface WWF championship runs in 88/89 and 1992. I also really liked his babyface run in WCW as the champion, and his feud against Flair. But he was also great as a heel IC champion and as a heel in the NWO, especially his feud with DDP. Hard to pick which he did better. With how awesome his IC and King runs were, I'm gonna give the nod to heel. Plus no cowboy hat during those time periods  |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 28, 2022 18:27:38 GMT -5
With how awesome his IC and King runs were, I'm gonna give the nod to heel. Plus no cowboy hat during those time periods Ding…ding…ding!!! Number 1 Answer! |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 29, 2022 20:57:37 GMT -5
Ding…ding…ding!!! Number 1 Answer!  |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 29, 2022 21:07:12 GMT -5
Hey watch it!  |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 29, 2022 21:23:31 GMT -5
Hey watch it! Sorry, truce...   |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 29, 2022 21:27:59 GMT -5
Truce  But always remember Natich beat Mach to end his last reign as WWF Champion  |
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 29, 2022 21:31:09 GMT -5
Truce But always remember Natich beat Mach to end his last reign as WWF Champion Yeah, but he did do this... |
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Post by The Brain on Nov 29, 2022 21:36:12 GMT -5
Truce But always remember Natich beat Mach to end his last reign as WWF Champion Yeah, but he did do this... That no good turncoat!  |
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Post by PJ on Nov 30, 2022 13:46:32 GMT -5
Ahhh! This second page of this thread is the perfect medicine. It’s what was missing from missing Thanksgiving this year…There’s nothing like family banter to put a smile on a face. 👍🏻
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Post by jason88cubs on Nov 30, 2022 22:09:54 GMT -5
Fabulous Rougeaus as heels
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 1, 2022 10:33:37 GMT -5
Acts better as heels
HBK his heel swagger in 97/98 was powerful.
Perfect
Natural Disasters
HHH
Martel
Savage
Powers Of Pain
Luger
Flair
Vince
Orton
Owen Hart
Bulldog
Agree on Hogan mastering both. Angle,Undertaker & Rock did too imho
Acts better as faces
Sting
Road Warriors
Demolition
Goldberg
Nash
Austin in his Stone Cold persona. Both heel turns in 01 were a disaster because they didn't fit.
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 1, 2022 11:14:23 GMT -5
Acts better as heels HBK his heel swagger in 97/98 was powerful. Perfect Natural Disasters HHH Martel Savage Powers Of Pain Luger Flair Vince Orton Owen Hart Bulldog Agree on Hogan mastering both. Angle,Undertaker & Rock did too imho Acts better as faces Sting Road Warriors Demolition Goldberg Nash Austin in his Stone Cold persona. Both heel turns in 01 were a disaster because they didn't fit. I agree with these lists, except, I think Bulldog was better as a babyface. He didn't have that edge or talking ability to be a great heel. Also, I'm on the fence about Austin. While I agree that his heel turn in 01 was a terrible choice, I don't think it was because of Austin not being a good heel, I just think people didn't want to boo him, so it didn't work. His heel work in the summer and fall of 1996 was incredible. And, I also liked him as Stunning Steve Austin in WCW. Nash as well. I think he was better as an edgier babyface, not the smiling and kissing babies' good guy they had him as in 1995. |
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 1, 2022 12:27:31 GMT -5
Acts better as heels HBK his heel swagger in 97/98 was powerful. Perfect Natural Disasters HHH Martel Savage Powers Of Pain Luger Flair Vince Orton Owen Hart Bulldog Agree on Hogan mastering both. Angle,Undertaker & Rock did too imho Acts better as faces Sting Road Warriors Demolition Goldberg Nash Austin in his Stone Cold persona. Both heel turns in 01 were a disaster because they didn't fit. I agree with these lists, except, I think Bulldog was better as a babyface. He didn't have that edge or talking ability to be a great heel. Also, I'm on the fence about Austin. While I agree that his heel turn in 01 was a terrible choice, I don't think it was because of Austin not being a good heel, I just think people didn't want to boo him, so it didn't work. His heel work in the summer and fall of 1996 was incredible. And, I also liked him as Stunning Steve Austin in WCW. Nash as well. I think he was better as an edgier babyface, not the smiling and kissing babies' good guy they had him as in 1995. I thought Bulldog was dry as unbuttered toast as a baby. Being a heel allowed him some great character development IMO. On Austin? Yes his heel work was incredible in mid/late 96 but the Stone Cold character was still formative. By 2001 that character was not booing material...& vince proved it...twice 🤣🤣 |
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