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Post by LA Times on Jun 11, 2023 16:55:56 GMT -5
They need to push somebody to challenge him for the championship fast. That was my thought when the draft was over. Who is even a possibility on the SD roster? AJ? Would at least be a relatively fresh feud for Roman. Needs some work though, feuding with Karrion Kross isnt going to do him any favors. I would have said Lashley can be a threat if this was Nov of last year. Since then he's been fed to Brock, no match at Mania and hasnt done anything noteworthy in about 7 months. Edge & Mysterio would just be rehashes of past feuds. Sheamus would have been better off months ago. Theory has done absolutely nothing since before Mania. They better have a plan to carry this bloodline story for the next 6-8 months, turn Solo face to drag it out. Because I don't see who else would even be a contender on SD. Personally, I would love to see Bronson Reed as a non-Bloodline Samoan taking them on.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 11, 2023 17:10:25 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes made a career out of losing to the World Champion, before winning it.
I don't see why Cody can't do the same either.
The SummerSlam main event should be Cody Rhodes vs. Roman Reigns with Cody winning it then. But I doubt that will happen.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 11, 2023 17:10:40 GMT -5
Vince
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 11, 2023 22:12:34 GMT -5
He's the biggest star in the business, so WWE is rightly riding that horse as long as possible. I still believe Cody will win the belt at next year's WM after a year of overcoming numerous obstacles, and his win will be even more memorable. But what Roman has had over the last 3 years has been magical, so I was happy to see it continue.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 12, 2023 1:31:19 GMT -5
They need to push somebody to challenge him for the championship fast. That was my thought when the draft was over. Who is even a possibility on the SD roster? AJ? Would at least be a relatively fresh feud for Roman. Needs some work though, feuding with Karrion Kross isnt going to do him any favors. I would have said Lashley can be a threat if this was Nov of last year. Since then he's been fed to Brock, no match at Mania and hasnt done anything noteworthy in about 7 months. Edge & Mysterio would just be rehashes of past feuds. Sheamus would have been better off months ago. Theory has done absolutely nothing since before Mania. They better have a plan to carry this bloodline story for the next 6-8 months, turn Solo face to drag it out. Because I don't see who else would even be a contender on SD. Yeah,I don't see anybody on SD's current roster that's anywhere close to being a contender to take it from him besides maybe someone in the Bloodline and that seems like a huge stretch. Imo the only guys I see as real contenders to take it, is all on Raw
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 12, 2023 9:23:34 GMT -5
Another crazy thing is how he's one of the first superstars in a long time to go viral in a meme/tiktok/gif sense same as Randy Orton when the "outta nowhere" clips were going around or John Cena when the invisible memes were getting huge. I love scrolling to the next video/reel and seeing something wild like "me in the year 2084 watching the main event of Wrestelemania 100" and then all you hear in the background is the 3 count, the booing and Roman Reigns music playing while the person on screen acts shocked/upset. Gets me every time.
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Post by TGTD 2.0 on Jun 12, 2023 12:01:30 GMT -5
I like Roman as a heel but this reign (no pun intended) has run its course. I’m a huge Cody fan and was totally convinced he was winning at Mania. It seems they are waiting for Mania 40 for the rematch so hoping Cody can remain as over as he is now and get his big moment then.
I deel there would have been a better story coming out of Mania 39 by having Roman lose and the Usos retain their titles. Roman takes his break, comes back to reclaim his spot in the Bloodline but now they look at him as the weak link and drama then ensues. That’s just what I thought would have been compelling.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 12, 2023 13:13:36 GMT -5
No. I would have rather had Cody beat Roman at WrestleMania, but only for the WWE Championship. It makes Seth Rollins look like a chump to have Roman Reigns be "Undisputed" Champion, and then Seth has this new belt that basically seems bogus.
Instead, Cody should have challenged for ONLY the WWE Title because that's the title his father wanted. That way basically everyone wins. Cody gets the belt his father wanted, Roman remains Universal Champion and still has a 1000+ day run with that belt...as it stands TODAY, Roman has only been WWE Champ for 434 days, if he would have lost JUST that title at WrestleMania, it really wouldn't have mattered.
That way you split the titles up again and you don't have to invent a title from scratch with no lineage.
Same way I don't understand why they retired the RAW Women's Championship, gave Asuka a belt that says Women's UNDISPUTED Champion....what about Rhea Ripley? Why is everyone's title on Smackdown UNDISPUTED when there are technically equivalent Champions on RAW?
I think WWE missed the mark on what they are doing with these titles....and this is the company that RAW/SD Champions literally just swap belts after the Draft on MULTIPLE occasions. It probably would have been better if Asuka and Rhea had just did a title swap and Rhea becomes RAW Women's Champion and Asuka becomes Smackdown Women's Champion.
It's too confusing in my opinion, and it creates at least the impression that certain titles are less meaningful. Yes, Seth is the World Heavyweight Champion, but Roman Reigns is UNDISPUTED, so the optics are that Roman's title is more important, at least in my opinion.
What is going to become of the Tag Team Title situation? Will they break up the Raw and SD tag titles? Will KO and Sami become UNDISPUTED Tag Team Champions and each be given one title each and then another team on a different show will be crowned as different new Tag Team Champions?
The worst thing they ever did was combine all these belts just to try and make the Bloodline dominate both RAW and Smackdown. The Bloodline should have stayed a Smackdown thing. It didn't need to impact RAW. And basically all it did was make RAW not have a present World Champion for almost a year because after WrestleMania last year when Roman beat Brock, Roman Reigns was basically never on RAW until he started his feud with Cody. RAW just didn't have a World Champion and for almost a year the only belt that was in play on RAW was the US Title...and big props to Theory, Seth, and Lashley for carrying the brand during that time as great US Champions. And honestly, Roman is basically a part timer...he defends the title maybe 4 times a year? Wrestles only 2 or 3 matches on free TV a year, AND doesn't even appear every week on Smackdown even just to cut a promo. He's maybe on twice a month.
We'll have to see where everything eventually settles, but I'm not thrilled with the title situation as it stands right now.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Jun 12, 2023 15:27:43 GMT -5
No. I would have rather had Cody beat Roman at WrestleMania, but only for the WWE Championship. It makes Seth Rollins look like a chump to have Roman Reigns be "Undisputed" Champion, and then Seth has this new belt that basically seems bogus. Instead, Cody should have challenged for ONLY the WWE Title because that's the title his father wanted. That way basically everyone wins. Cody gets the belt his father wanted, Roman remains Universal Champion and still has a 1000+ day run with that belt...as it stands TODAY, Roman has only been WWE Champ for 434 days, if he would have lost JUST that title at WrestleMania, it really wouldn't have mattered. That way you split the titles up again and you don't have to invent a title from scratch with no lineage. Same way I don't understand why they retired the RAW Women's Championship, gave Asuka a belt that says Women's UNDISPUTED Champion....what about Rhea Ripley? Why is everyone's title on Smackdown UNDISPUTED when there are technically equivalent Champions on RAW? I think WWE missed the mark on what they are doing with these titles....and this is the company that RAW/SD Champions literally just swap belts after the Draft on MULTIPLE occasions. It probably would have been better if Asuka and Rhea had just did a title swap and Rhea becomes RAW Women's Champion and Asuka becomes Smackdown Women's Champion. It's too confusing in my opinion, and it creates at least the impression that certain titles are less meaningful. Yes, Seth is the World Heavyweight Champion, but Roman Reigns is UNDISPUTED, so the optics are that Roman's title is more important, at least in my opinion. What is going to become of the Tag Team Title situation? Will they break up the Raw and SD tag titles? Will KO and Sami become UNDISPUTED Tag Team Champions and each be given one title each and then another team on a different show will be crowned as different new Tag Team Champions? The worst thing they ever did was combine all these belts just to try and make the Bloodline dominate both RAW and Smackdown. The Bloodline should have stayed a Smackdown thing. It didn't need to impact RAW. And basically all it did was make RAW not have a present World Champion for almost a year because after WrestleMania last year when Roman beat Brock, Roman Reigns was basically never on RAW until he started his feud with Cody. RAW just didn't have a World Champion and for almost a year the only belt that was in play on RAW was the US Title...and big props to Theory, Seth, and Lashley for carrying the brand during that time as great US Champions. And honestly, Roman is basically a part timer...he defends the title maybe 4 times a year? Wrestles only 2 or 3 matches on free TV a year, AND doesn't even appear every week on Smackdown even just to cut a promo. He's maybe on twice a month. We'll have to see where everything eventually settles, but I'm not thrilled with the title situation as it stands right now. You took the words right out of my mouth, despite the WWE is doing really good financially but lately creatively it's been pissing me off. You have this white hot babyface in Cody Rhodes who they pay $3 to 5 million a year which he gets a bus and you didn't give him the World Title at WrestleMania because you wanted Roman Reigns to break these fake records for a prop (lets be real present day wrestling the championships are ing props). I hate the fact that Vince and co. push Roman Reigns down our throats since he won the Universal Title in August of 2020, this Bloodline story is boring and putting me to sleep, if I want to watch drama I rather watch a random ass drama movie or tv show for that. All Roman does on tv is come out say his "Acknowledge Me" bullcrap, talks his crap, and leaves. He has become the new Brock Lesnar, he barley wrestles on TV and at the house shows. I agree with everything you said, the WWE booking and creative is crap currently.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jun 12, 2023 16:37:25 GMT -5
No. I would have rather had Cody beat Roman at WrestleMania, but only for the WWE Championship. It makes Seth Rollins look like a chump to have Roman Reigns be "Undisputed" Champion, and then Seth has this new belt that basically seems bogus. Instead, Cody should have challenged for ONLY the WWE Title because that's the title his father wanted. That way basically everyone wins. Cody gets the belt his father wanted, Roman remains Universal Champion and still has a 1000+ day run with that belt...as it stands TODAY, Roman has only been WWE Champ for 434 days, if he would have lost JUST that title at WrestleMania, it really wouldn't have mattered. That way you split the titles up again and you don't have to invent a title from scratch with no lineage. Same way I don't understand why they retired the RAW Women's Championship, gave Asuka a belt that says Women's UNDISPUTED Champion....what about Rhea Ripley? Why is everyone's title on Smackdown UNDISPUTED when there are technically equivalent Champions on RAW? I think WWE missed the mark on what they are doing with these titles....and this is the company that RAW/SD Champions literally just swap belts after the Draft on MULTIPLE occasions. It probably would have been better if Asuka and Rhea had just did a title swap and Rhea becomes RAW Women's Champion and Asuka becomes Smackdown Women's Champion. It's too confusing in my opinion, and it creates at least the impression that certain titles are less meaningful. Yes, Seth is the World Heavyweight Champion, but Roman Reigns is UNDISPUTED, so the optics are that Roman's title is more important, at least in my opinion. What is going to become of the Tag Team Title situation? Will they break up the Raw and SD tag titles? Will KO and Sami become UNDISPUTED Tag Team Champions and each be given one title each and then another team on a different show will be crowned as different new Tag Team Champions? The worst thing they ever did was combine all these belts just to try and make the Bloodline dominate both RAW and Smackdown. The Bloodline should have stayed a Smackdown thing. It didn't need to impact RAW. And basically all it did was make RAW not have a present World Champion for almost a year because after WrestleMania last year when Roman beat Brock, Roman Reigns was basically never on RAW until he started his feud with Cody. RAW just didn't have a World Champion and for almost a year the only belt that was in play on RAW was the US Title...and big props to Theory, Seth, and Lashley for carrying the brand during that time as great US Champions. And honestly, Roman is basically a part timer...he defends the title maybe 4 times a year? Wrestles only 2 or 3 matches on free TV a year, AND doesn't even appear every week on Smackdown even just to cut a promo. He's maybe on twice a month. We'll have to see where everything eventually settles, but I'm not thrilled with the title situation as it stands right now. You took the words right out of my mouth, despite the WWE is doing really good financially but lately creatively it's been pissing me off. You have this white hot babyface in Cody Rhodes who they pay $3 to 5 million a year which he gets a bus and you didn't give him the World Title at WrestleMania because you wanted Roman Reigns to break these fake records for a prop (lets be real present day wrestling the championships are ing props). I hate the fact that Vince and co. push Roman Reigns down our throats since he won the Universal Title in August of 2020, this Bloodline story is boring and putting me to sleep, if I want to watch drama I rather watch a random ass drama movie or tv show for that. All Roman does on tv is come out say his "Acknowledge Me" bullcrap, talks his crap, and leaves. He has become the new Brock Lesnar, he barley wrestles on TV and at the house shows. I agree with everything you said, the WWE booking and creative is crap currently. You’re mad that Cody didn’t win something that you yourself called a prop?
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 12, 2023 16:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 12, 2023 18:14:27 GMT -5
Meh. He’s a television champion. He’s not defending it like they did in the 70’s, 80’s, or even the 90’s. He’s got a sweetheart deal where he barely has to wrestle. It’s like Brock’s deals where there really isn’t a champion on Smackdown and the Tribal Chief has the prop. We’re probably stuck with it until Wrestlemania 40, but I’d have it happen at Survivor Series. Summerslam will probably be Usos vs Reigns and Solo and Brock vs Cody 3 (unless they try to stretch that to Survivor Series, which isn’t probably the best idea). There won’t be enough of a Bloodline left after that, but it’s either drag the thing out even longer and have Jimmy vs Roman at Summerslam and then the Usos vs Roman and Solo at Survivor Series, then he may just not do the Rumble. It has to be Cody at this point, and once Brock is vanquished - barring an injury angle or some extended time off - it’ll be difficult to stretch Cody’s story any longer. Anyone else would be shoehorned in unless…
They have Bron take Rollins’ belt and have Roman/Rollins go from after Summerslam to the Rumble (there’d likely be Rollins and someone vs Solo and Roman, and this would start Solo’s exit. Then do Roman and Rollins one on one at the Rumble, then back to Cody at 40, when Cody possibly even has the Usos support). Either way, this cannot extend past 40. This all goes back to wrestling having more than one royal family. When one royal family finally crumbles then it has to go back to the son of the son of the plumber, and by then Dustin will probably at least be allowed to be with his brother.
And then……Cody vs MJF (potentially) could be the next long championship feud.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Jun 12, 2023 20:08:36 GMT -5
It was really cool for a long time but it’s pretty stale to me
Bloodline does great segments but it’s all the same stuff with pieces moved around. The story doesn’t need the title anymore and they’re just doing this for the amount of days they can get out of it.
I get it. But it’s held the entire roster back.
But record profits so what’s it matter
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Jun 12, 2023 22:57:27 GMT -5
You took the words right out of my mouth, despite the WWE is doing really good financially but lately creatively it's been pissing me off. You have this white hot babyface in Cody Rhodes who they pay $3 to 5 million a year which he gets a bus and you didn't give him the World Title at WrestleMania because you wanted Roman Reigns to break these fake records for a prop (lets be real present day wrestling the championships are ing props). I hate the fact that Vince and co. push Roman Reigns down our throats since he won the Universal Title in August of 2020, this Bloodline story is boring and putting me to sleep, if I want to watch drama I rather watch a random ass drama movie or tv show for that. All Roman does on tv is come out say his "Acknowledge Me" bullcrap, talks his crap, and leaves. He has become the new Brock Lesnar, he barley wrestles on TV and at the house shows. I agree with everything you said, the WWE booking and creative is crap currently. You’re mad that Cody didn’t win something that you yourself called a prop? no seas un idiota
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 13, 2023 18:10:14 GMT -5
He's the biggest star in the business, so WWE is rightly riding that horse as long as possible. I still believe Cody will win the belt at next year's WM after a year of overcoming numerous obstacles, and his win will be even more memorable. But what Roman has had over the last 3 years has been magical, so I was happy to see it continue. It’s great to see this crazy reign continue... I wouldn’t mind seeing it last even longer.... & Cody’s time will come eventually.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 17, 2023 21:59:45 GMT -5
Absolutely. The Tribal Chief and the Bloodline storyline is some of the greatest wrestling television ever. Long may it continue.
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Post by BSR on Jun 18, 2023 6:35:26 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst world champion of all time. Literal snooze fest. Relying on his family and Heyman and sami zayn to be interesting.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Jun 18, 2023 6:51:40 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst world champion of all time. Literal snooze fest. Relying on his family and Heyman and sami zayn to be interesting. Acknowledge your Tribal Chief ☝️
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jun 18, 2023 7:53:13 GMT -5
Absolutely. The Tribal Chief and the Bloodline storyline is some of the greatest wrestling television ever. Long may it continue. Some of the best stuff in history… let it last a few more years tbh.
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Post by Butchers on Jun 18, 2023 9:19:19 GMT -5
I was ready for Cody to win it at Mania. But he didn't and that's OK too.
The way they've built the crumbling of the Bloodline after Mania has been excellent and is how I've imagined it going down since Sami left.
Jimmy goes, then Jey. I can see The Usos pulling out a win at MITB. Roman then starts to get hot at Solo. He lost both tag matches, not Roman.
Solo leaves Roman, maybe with Heyman? They seem to be setting that up for Heyman to manage Solo. Then Roman loses the belt when he has no one to help him retain it. Maybe not straight away (cheats to win a couple of times on his own)
Having said all of that, I'm also happy for him to keep it even longer. Let him overtake Hogan at least.
As others have said, having the title defended infrequently makes it feel a bigger deal. If you want title matches, watch Seth! Something for everyone's tastes.
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