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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 0:45:24 GMT -5
Georgiann Feels she knows everything about these situations and problems with Omega Sports autograph sessions and Mick Foley and Ted DiBiase not getting paid, however, she does not. She only posts letters that support he cause against the owner, and this one-sided reporting is leading to a false sense of worry regarding autograph sessions there. Here is a letter i sent her that she refuses to post because it goes against her cause. "I have dealt with Omega Sports for years. Brandon, (Donnie is not his real name, it is his brother, just to clearify) used to have a store in the McKinley Mall where they had Bret Hart and Ric Flair sign. I showed up to the Ric Flair signing to find the store was gone,...not notice, not information, nothing. I heard from some fans he posted a sign for the new place for the flair signing, but the mall took it down b/c it was advertising. I had $100 worth of tickets and after hunting him down for 2 years, found a store that had some of his stuff and they told me to just go in and take about $100 worth of stuff, which i did, i took various autographed photos that according to his prices equaled 100 dollars. I went to the store last year in Niagara when i found out about it and he understood about getting the photos from the store and also gave me tickets to all the upcoming signings that i wanted to attend and allowed me to buy any others for 1/2 price. He eventually made it right, although it took time. I attended the Sgt. Slaughter signing and Brandon agreed Virgil (Who was also there) would sign for me for free b/c of my troubles. He asked virgil to sign my stuff and Virgil charged me $10 a signature, when he was advertisied to be signing for free (didn't know this, brandon made it sound like he was doing this for me b/c he owed me). Slaughter was great and did get his money. I was just on the phone with Brandon. Here are his claims: I have heard from other sources this Mick story is 100% true and i feel a statement should be made by mick after making him sound bad: Mick wanted the money ahead of time because of the San Francisco incident and Brandon sent it, and Mick's agent claimed that money was for Bundy (who never made it), and Slaughter (who had gotten all his money), so Mick called Slaughter and Bundy to ask about future appearances and they said they had none, so them oney had to be Micks. Mick explained to his agent that that's his money and fired his agent. Dibiase asked Brandon to get him as many appearances at churches and hospitals because he's an ordained minister. after brandon gets him the appearances, he asks for $1000 per appearance and churches/hospitals/schools/etc...which was not mentioned. Brandon paid for his meals, flight both ways, $2,000 cash for the signing, which was the deal, 2 nights in a hotel, everything, Dibiase misrepresented what he wanted Brandon to do. Brandon thought he wanted to do these to help people and because he was an ordained minister, but he just wanted to use brandon for more money and more appearances. I feel both sides of the case need to be shown. Brandon claims to have contacted you, Georgiann....i feel you are being one-sided on your reporting. Whether you believe him or not, you need to post his responses to the incidents. I have had a few negative experiences especially when he was starting, but now that he's got everything down, i feel he's been very misrepresented and is doing a much better job that most of the people complaining about him could do. In the end, the wrestler DO get paid and the fans get their autographs. eventually he's going to get fed up and just stop doing these and then us fans in Western NY will have a difficult time meeting wrestlers locally, so if the fans want to keep meeting these guys, they need to cut him a break and view both sides of the story. Ask Mick if you can Georgiann, He got paid, the money was sent to him, by brandon, BEFORE the signing ever happened. The problem was Mick's agent, who has now been fired." I have major problem with her reporting style and refuses to post this because she says it is untrue, she's friends with Ted. So....being friends with someone means nothing when you're reporting, you cannot bring personal opinions into matters, you are to post both sides of a story and let the readers draw conclusions from that, it is only fair, but she refuses to, so I will report the side she doesn't On a side note, i'm not a big fan of Brandon and had problems in the past as i mentioned, but i feel he deserves the respect to have his side of the story heard, truth or untruth. Above is what he claims, i am not arguing for validity, just reporting because Georgiann won't Here's a link to the DiBiase report: www.wrestlingfigs.com/inner2.php?id=6346&page_id=1
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Dec 9, 2007 1:09:46 GMT -5
I think I speak for the vast majority of WFer's when I say... Who gives a ? Seriously. This is a personal matter that needs to be taken care of justly, this isn't Oprah, nobody cares about he said/she said here. If you guys get your "news" from Georgiann, have your head checked. ...and if this guy's autograph session techniques or lack there of are really digging at you then you should really get a hobby. I'm not saying that I agree one way or the other on this topic, mostly because I don't care, but honestly...this is just silly. Attacking someone's credentials for posting wrestling "scoops" when there are no "scoops" in wrestling is ridiculous.
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 1:13:59 GMT -5
This is far from a scoop, its not like i'm attacking her b/c she posted some untrue return or sone fake storyline, she's posting one sided information directly attacking a person and their business ventures when she's supposedly a "reporter" for wfigs. Simple reporting techniques aren't being employed and it's unfair to the owner by giving him bad publicity that wasn't necessarily hisfault and then refusing to post his reponse.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Dec 9, 2007 1:18:40 GMT -5
This is far from a scoop, its not like i'm attacking her b/c she posted some untrue return or sone fake storyline, she's posting one sided information directly attacking a person and their business ventures when she's supposedly a "reporter" for wfigs. Simple reporting techniques aren't being employed and it's unfair to the owner by giving him bad publicity that wasn't necessarily hisfault and then refusing to post his reponse. Think about that for a second though. She's a wrestling reporter for an action figure site. I think the damage is already done, man. lol.
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Does that make me bad?
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I AM A BAD TRADER WOO!!
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Post by Does that make me bad? on Dec 9, 2007 1:24:57 GMT -5
Heres something
GET OVER IT!!!
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Post by Suckasays on Dec 9, 2007 7:54:23 GMT -5
I could care less if Georgiann reported something bad, good, sideways or all of the above. She sent me an autographed pic of Jimmy Valiant once so I believe everything she says from now on
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Post by T R W on Dec 9, 2007 8:45:42 GMT -5
I could care less if Georgiann reported something bad, good, sideways or all of the above. She sent me an autographed pic of Jimmy Valiant once so I believe everything she says from now on Ooo wah, ooo wah cool, cool kitty Tell us about the boy from new york city Ooo wah, ooo wah cmon kitty Tell us about the boy from new york city
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Dec 9, 2007 8:52:47 GMT -5
Di biase report aye?
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Post by downwardspiral: Hostility on Dec 9, 2007 10:48:40 GMT -5
im not gonna jump in and bash Georgiann becaus eI dont have the right or a cause to do it. But I can report on the signings at Omega Sports. BEing a fan for years and living in the Western NY area, when I first saw that a bunch of signings were gonna take place over the summer I got pumped the list was great. Jerry Lawler, Nasty Boys, Honky Tonk Man, One Man Gang, Trish Stratus among others. I saw this and instantly started to buy things for this. The first siging I went to was Jerry Lawler. It was $15 bucks, not too bad. The line was quite long so I knew the strategy had to adjust for the next ones I would go to. The things is it didn't go the order of the line. The owner broke it up to 3 lines. One line for people who wanted to get a picture digitally printed and signed for $20 and then a line for what I would call the "friend" line,. This line was sent to the front of the line claiming they had special tickets or something ridiculous. More ont his later. Anyways well after the 8 deadline to sign I got up. Lawler was awesome posing for pictures signing everything you had. It really made up for the combustible way the signing went.
This debacle caused me to scratch almost all my plans for the other siginings except for the Trish one. So after seeing the line for the Lawler one I decided to go quite early. I ended up being I'd say 10th in line. Met up with soem cool guys, one being from across the pond in Good Ol'England. The isgning went on as I would assume the one line for picture and the friend line. The thing that got me was all the other people who got the owners permission to cut in line for it. Being in the front 10 would seem I would get out in reasonable time though right? The signing was for 6-8 of course as all signings in this area it started aroudn 630. no biggie. The "friend" line got to go first and most of the people in front of me went to the "picture" line, who the camera people were running late. So I was pretty close to end of the "friends" line and saw a couple of guys I came across many times wether it be WWE events, ROh or the local outing Ball Park Brawl. They told me straight up they didnt pay anything extra they just got the "VIP" treatment just cause they new the owner guy. I call it total bullcrap cuz they didnt walk in til about 6 o'clock way after most of the line showed up. Granted all the wrestlers were awesome signing everything and taking multiple pics. Great stuff. But the logic of the signings was just way off which cause me only to go to select signings because I know the circumstances surrounding them.
Now with people reportedly not getting paid and the previous problems I had, im not too sure if I will be participating in these signings anymore. Im actually not too surprised that someone didnt get paid or along those lines. It just seems as if the signings and the people aroudn them were shady.
Alright after writing that it seems all over the place. In conclusion the guy at Omega are shady characters. I give full support to Georgiann. I love Green Beans
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 11:19:23 GMT -5
im not gonna jump in and bash Georgiann becaus eI dont have the right or a cause to do it. But I can report on the signings at Omega Sports. BEing a fan for years and living in the Western NY area, when I first saw that a bunch of signings were gonna take place over the summer I got pumped the list was great. Jerry Lawler, Nasty Boys, Honky Tonk Man, One Man Gang, Trish Stratus among others. I saw this and instantly started to buy things for this. The first siging I went to was Jerry Lawler. It was $15 bucks, not too bad. The line was quite long so I knew the strategy had to adjust for the next ones I would go to. The things is it didn't go the order of the line. The owner broke it up to 3 lines. One line for people who wanted to get a picture digitally printed and signed for $20 and then a line for what I would call the "friend" line,. This line was sent to the front of the line claiming they had special tickets or something ridiculous. More ont his later. Anyways well after the 8 deadline to sign I got up. Lawler was awesome posing for pictures signing everything you had. It really made up for the combustible way the signing went. This debacle caused me to scratch almost all my plans for the other siginings except for the Trish one. So after seeing the line for the Lawler one I decided to go quite early. I ended up being I'd say 10th in line. Met up with soem cool guys, one being from across the pond in Good Ol'England. The isgning went on as I would assume the one line for picture and the friend line. The thing that got me was all the other people who got the owners permission to cut in line for it. Being in the front 10 would seem I would get out in reasonable time though right? The signing was for 6-8 of course as all signings in this area it started aroudn 630. no biggie. The "friend" line got to go first and most of the people in front of me went to the "picture" line, who the camera people were running late. So I was pretty close to end of the "friends" line and saw a couple of guys I came across many times wether it be WWE events, ROh or the local outing Ball Park Brawl. They told me straight up they didnt pay anything extra they just got the "VIP" treatment just cause they new the owner guy. I call it total bull **** cuz they didnt walk in til about 6 o'clock way after most of the line showed up. Granted all the wrestlers were awesome signing everything and taking multiple pics. Great stuff. But the logic of the signings was just way off which cause me only to go to select signings because I know the circumstances surrounding them. Now with people reportedly not getting paid and the previous problems I had, im not too sure if I will be participating in these signings anymore. Im actually not too surprised that someone didnt get paid or along those lines. It just seems as if the signings and the people aroudn them were shady. Alright after writing that it seems all over the place. In conclusion the guy at Omega are shady characters. I give full support to Georgiann. I love Green Beans I have not seen this friend line, but have seen the photo lines and the photo's aren't even great. At least thank you for a thought out reply instead of saying you dont care (which isn't even worth a reply) or saying i spelled Dibiase wrong, thanks for actually replying iwth something worthy, regardless of whether i agree
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Dec 9, 2007 11:32:56 GMT -5
im not gonna jump in and bash Georgiann becaus eI dont have the right or a cause to do it. But I can report on the signings at Omega Sports. BEing a fan for years and living in the Western NY area, when I first saw that a bunch of signings were gonna take place over the summer I got pumped the list was great. Jerry Lawler, Nasty Boys, Honky Tonk Man, One Man Gang, Trish Stratus among others. I saw this and instantly started to buy things for this. The first siging I went to was Jerry Lawler. It was $15 bucks, not too bad. The line was quite long so I knew the strategy had to adjust for the next ones I would go to. The things is it didn't go the order of the line. The owner broke it up to 3 lines. One line for people who wanted to get a picture digitally printed and signed for $20 and then a line for what I would call the "friend" line,. This line was sent to the front of the line claiming they had special tickets or something ridiculous. More ont his later. Anyways well after the 8 deadline to sign I got up. Lawler was awesome posing for pictures signing everything you had. It really made up for the combustible way the signing went. This debacle caused me to scratch almost all my plans for the other siginings except for the Trish one. So after seeing the line for the Lawler one I decided to go quite early. I ended up being I'd say 10th in line. Met up with soem cool guys, one being from across the pond in Good Ol'England. The isgning went on as I would assume the one line for picture and the friend line. The thing that got me was all the other people who got the owners permission to cut in line for it. Being in the front 10 would seem I would get out in reasonable time though right? The signing was for 6-8 of course as all signings in this area it started aroudn 630. no biggie. The "friend" line got to go first and most of the people in front of me went to the "picture" line, who the camera people were running late. So I was pretty close to end of the "friends" line and saw a couple of guys I came across many times wether it be WWE events, ROh or the local outing Ball Park Brawl. They told me straight up they didnt pay anything extra they just got the "VIP" treatment just cause they new the owner guy. I call it total bull **** cuz they didnt walk in til about 6 o'clock way after most of the line showed up. Granted all the wrestlers were awesome signing everything and taking multiple pics. Great stuff. But the logic of the signings was just way off which cause me only to go to select signings because I know the circumstances surrounding them. Now with people reportedly not getting paid and the previous problems I had, im not too sure if I will be participating in these signings anymore. Im actually not too surprised that someone didnt get paid or along those lines. It just seems as if the signings and the people aroudn them were shady. Alright after writing that it seems all over the place. In conclusion the guy at Omega are shady characters. I give full support to Georgiann. I love Green Beans I have not seen this friend line, but have seen the photo lines and the photo's aren't even great. At least thank you for a thought out reply instead of saying you dont care (which isn't even worth a reply) or saying i spelled Dibiase wrong, thanks for actually replying iwth something worthy, regardless of whether i agree Indeed. The green beans comment definitely made it worthy.
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 12:23:14 GMT -5
I have not seen this friend line, but have seen the photo lines and the photo's aren't even great. At least thank you for a thought out reply instead of saying you dont care (which isn't even worth a reply) or saying i spelled Dibiase wrong, thanks for actually replying iwth something worthy, regardless of whether i agree Indeed. The green beans comment definitely made it worthy. maybe you should read the rest of his reponse. better than trying to speak for a lot of people with no knowledge on the subjecct....
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Post by rawislilian on Dec 9, 2007 13:54:56 GMT -5
She's a wrestling reporter for an action figure site So your saying that Georgie was wrong that the idiots did not make a cool guy who does not know how to say no play football, do a promo and try to stiff him on a promised dinner. Who am I going to belive here, hummmmmmm that is a no brainer I am going with Georgie on this one.
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Post by class316 on Dec 9, 2007 14:26:39 GMT -5
I’ve been to several Omega sports signings. I’ve been to Slaughter, Angelo Mosca, Jerry Lawler, One Man Gang, Honky Tonk Man, and Trish Stratus.
I can confirm the "friends" line existed in pretty much all these signings. However, from what I understand most of them bought a Tshirt for $20 jumping them to the front of the line. Though I would believe that some got in there free.
Regarding my experience at these signings, they were all overall good. And they are relatively stress free signings. And not a single person in line was ever left without an auto. A claim that can’t be made in a lot of signings.
Also, not to sound mean but if some slight disorganization prevents you from attending a signing of a wrestler you never met, then maybe this is the wrong hobby for you. In pretty much any signing or convention, stuff will happen.
Regarding Brandon himself, he was always an overall ok guy. Maybe a tad money grubbing, but these days who isn’t?
Now regarding non-payments of Foley and Dibiase, that would shock me as this guy has been doing signings for a while, both wrestling signings and non-wrestling signings (some of which are non-sports).
I honestly don’t know which side is correct in that regard as I have no firsthand knowledge (I didn’t even attend Foley and Dibiase as I met them before), but if in Foley’s case his agent was at fault then Foley should make a public statement putting the story to rest. And if he did pay Dibiase’s full pay for that one 2 hour session, then he should make a public statement saying his side of things.
Regardless who is at fault in the end the fans will lose out as wrestlers will be a afraid to work for him unless they have full money up front.
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 19:30:13 GMT -5
She's a wrestling reporter for an action figure site So your saying that Georgie was wrong that the idiots did not make a cool guy who does not know how to say no play football, do a promo and try to stiff him on a promised dinner. Who am I going to belive here, hummmmmmm that is a no brainer I am going with Georgie on this one. the jimmy hart story is irrelevant to this topic. that was years ago
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Dec 9, 2007 19:42:04 GMT -5
She's a wrestling reporter for an action figure site So your saying that Georgie was wrong that the idiots did not make a cool guy who does not know how to say no play football, do a promo and try to stiff him on a promised dinner. Who am I going to belive here, hummmmmmm that is a no brainer I am going with Georgie on this one. the jimmy hart story is irrelevant to this topic. that was years ago Not really. I mean if you leave that story out it's leaving out all the information and potentially reporting one sided and being biased...
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Post by TommyHyland46 on Dec 9, 2007 22:49:54 GMT -5
the jimmy hart story is irrelevant to this topic. that was years ago Not really. I mean if you leave that story out it's leaving out all the information and potentially reporting one sided and being biased... no it isn't because of the alternate time frame. In a court of law,, bringing up such information would be objectable and sustained. that incident has nothing to do with foley/dibiase not getting paid. Brandon's reponse was much more relevant than some old jimmy hart story from a random fan, but that didn't get posted. Gerogiann says brandon's reply is not true (not that it matters, it should still be posted), but how do we know the jimmy hart story is even true then. Gerogiann is making that judgment and she is not in a position to do so.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Dec 9, 2007 22:51:55 GMT -5
Not really. I mean if you leave that story out it's leaving out all the information and potentially reporting one sided and being biased... no it isn't because of the alternate time frame. In a court of law,, bringing up such information would be objectable and sustained. that incident has nothing to do with foley/dibiase not getting paid. Brandon's reponse was much more relevant than some old jimmy hart story from a random fan, but that didn't get posted. Gerogiann says brandon's reply is not true (not that it matters, it should still be posted), but how do we know the jimmy hart story is even true then. Gerogiann is making that judgment and she is not in a position to do so. ...and you aren't in court. You are on a wrestling figure message board.
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Post by Suckasays on Dec 10, 2007 10:46:41 GMT -5
no it isn't because of the alternate time frame. In a court of law,, bringing up such information would be objectable and sustained. that incident has nothing to do with foley/dibiase not getting paid. Brandon's reponse was much more relevant than some old jimmy hart story from a random fan, but that didn't get posted. Gerogiann says brandon's reply is not true (not that it matters, it should still be posted), but how do we know the jimmy hart story is even true then. Gerogiann is making that judgment and she is not in a position to do so. ...and you aren't in court. You are on a wrestling figure message board. <3
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Post by Gene on Dec 10, 2007 10:53:13 GMT -5
no it isn't because of the alternate time frame. In a court of law,, bringing up such information would be objectable and sustained. that incident has nothing to do with foley/dibiase not getting paid. Brandon's reponse was much more relevant than some old jimmy hart story from a random fan, but that didn't get posted. Gerogiann says brandon's reply is not true (not that it matters, it should still be posted), but how do we know the jimmy hart story is even true then. Gerogiann is making that judgment and she is not in a position to do so. ...and you aren't in court. You are on a wrestling figure message board.
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