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Post by vaclav on Oct 27, 2007 14:07:45 GMT -5
MVP is a buddhist, he converted to that while in prison, changing his name from Alvin Burke to Hassan Assaid or something
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Post by ztj_wwf on Oct 27, 2007 14:11:39 GMT -5
No he's muslim isn't he? that's what I thought?
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Post by Codesters on Oct 27, 2007 14:47:42 GMT -5
How about being an atheist is bull **** Your statement is bull ****! Bashing him because of his religion? He has the right to say what he wants and what religion. The first amendment buddy! Wow, just wow...... that was complete ignorance. So, he cant say atheism is BS but he CAN say that religion in general is BS? Go, drink some bleech buddy. I respect everyones religion, but when youre so one sided like yourself, I have to butt in. Oh and by the way smart one, the ammendments are based in a country UNDER GOD so should you even abide by the 1st amendment?
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Post by slappy on Oct 27, 2007 14:49:31 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be an argument, and yes of course I would like a wrestler less if he is a satanist or athiest, anyway, I always wondered what taker actually is in real life? That's just moronic.
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Post by BIGticket5 on Oct 27, 2007 15:04:45 GMT -5
well at the risk of being flamed...here goes:
atheists believe there is no god, not the same as just choosing not to believe in a religion.
not choosing a religion just means you are non-christian or secular and this applies to about 60% of the world's population and probably an even higher percentage of wrestlers.
just believing in god does not make you a christian. there is alot more to it. regardless of whether you are catholic, protestant, etc.
i really know very little about satanists and wiccans although my best friend from childhood practices wicca. but from what i do know, they are worshiping other spiritual beings, i.e. nature, and putting anyone or thing before christ will earn you eternity in hell. i'm sure that is probably how the term satanist got attached to their practice, whatever it may actually be.
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Post by E-Noon on Oct 27, 2007 16:20:48 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be an argument, and yes of course I would like a wrestler less if he is a satanist or athiest, anyway, I always wondered what taker actually is in real life? Wow, how incredibly ignorant of you.
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Post by therealjswo on Oct 27, 2007 16:28:45 GMT -5
I think Paul london may be jewish. London is a jewish last name London isn't a Jewish name.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2007 16:29:53 GMT -5
The McMahon's are all devout Mormons. I've often heard that Cena is a Scientologist, as is The Rock. Max, I know you're just kidding around, but let's be real here. Cena and Rock are probably Protestant, the McMahons are Catholic.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Oct 27, 2007 16:43:46 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be an argument, and yes of course I would like a wrestler less if he is a satanist or athiest, anyway, I always wondered what taker actually is in real life? Wow, how incredibly ignorant of you. How is it ignorant? I'm supposed to like people who worship the devil or insist that god is not real when I'm a christian?
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Post by [MJH] on Oct 27, 2007 16:46:07 GMT -5
This isn't supposed to be an argument, and yes of course I would like a wrestler less if he is a satanist or athiest, anyway, I always wondered what taker actually is in real life? What a intellectually- disabled statement, It's people like you that cause hate between or towards religions, there is nothing wrong with someone not believing in someone or something there is no proof of and judging them because of that is just bull. It doesn't matter if you believe in a God or not you shouldnt think any different of them.
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Post by Adam on Oct 27, 2007 16:49:42 GMT -5
Wow, how incredibly ignorant of you. How is it ignorant? I'm supposed to like people who worship the devil or insist that god is not real when I'm a christian? It's ignorant for thinking less of someone because they don't share the same beliefs as you. A religion is a belief.
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Post by Quanthor on Oct 27, 2007 16:52:09 GMT -5
This thread is a microcosm of how the real world can't get along. Y222J created this thread, basically to bash on every religion but his. He claims he wants NO arguments, but HOW could you NOT see this coming. To hate or dislike someone because of their preference goes beyond being ignorant............. It's frightening!!!!! If you want to live in a theocracy, look no further then parts of the middle east and the violence that is caused(aside from the U.S. involvement) by the lack of liberties. In my opinion I respect everyones choice of creed, but when people of their own religion oppresses the rights of others or subverts constitutional rights affecting the lives of others who choose differently........THEN I have a BIG problem. Just remember nothing is conclusive, so everyones choice is as logical as anyones else's.
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Post by S on Oct 27, 2007 17:17:34 GMT -5
I'm no expert in it but isn't satanism given that name as it is sort of seen as the opposite to christianity (i.e. each person believing in their spiritual selves instead of one god and one man leading everyone to salvation) rather than the actual belief of satan ?
Again, i am no expert, just curious
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Post by Quanthor on Oct 27, 2007 17:44:21 GMT -5
I'm no expert in it but isn't satanism given that name as it is sort of seen as the opposite to Christianity (i.e. each person believing in their spiritual selves instead of one god and one man leading everyone to salvation) rather than the actual belief of Satan ? Again, i am no expert, just curious I believe your dead on the money in terms Laveyan Satanism, which is the one most people refer to when they say that they're a Satanist.. It has nothing to do with Satan himself that's the misinterpretation of that religion. If it had a different name, then I guarantee more people would convert to Anton Lavey's teachings. The biggest thing that he said that stuck out was "everything we do in life are selfish acts". This is very true, even when we HELP somebody, WE do it to make ourselves feel better. I'm an agnostic, I don't adhere to anything and follow my intuitions while acknowledging everyones choice.
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Post by S on Oct 27, 2007 17:52:33 GMT -5
I'm no expert in it but isn't satanism given that name as it is sort of seen as the opposite to Christianity (i.e. each person believing in their spiritual selves instead of one god and one man leading everyone to salvation) rather than the actual belief of Satan ? Again, i am no expert, just curious I believe your dead on the money in terms Laveyan Satanism, which is the one most people refer to when they say that they're a Satanist.. It has nothing to do with Satan himself that's the misinterpretation of that religion. If it had a different name, then I guarantee more people would convert to Anton Lavey's teachings. The biggest thing that he said that stuck out was "everything we do in life are selfish acts". This is very true, even when we HELP somebody, WE do it to make ourselves feel better.I'm an agnostic, I don't adhere to anything and follow my intuitions while acknowledging everyones choice. Reminds me of that episode of friends where Joey tells Pheobe that.... Mabye Joey is satanist
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Post by lancewiget on Oct 27, 2007 18:11:26 GMT -5
its discussions like this that make me glad i am a atheist. religion is bull **** finally, someone who thinks the same as me!! praise the... oh wait... basically, my thoughts are... let people believe what they want and accept that. I am Atheist. It is a choice of mine because i know there is no evidence that a supernatural being exists, and no proof Heaven or Hell exist. I mean, who is gonna die, go to either of the two, and come back 3 weeks later, telling us what kind of summer vacation they have had eh? haha. I'll believe it, when it is proven. And i will accept what other people believe. My grandparents are Christians, and sometimes when i go round for Sunday Lunch, i will sit down and say grace, because it pleases them, not because it is what i believe. Sometimes, you have to do that to please people, but believe what you want.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Oct 27, 2007 18:11:59 GMT -5
Wow, how incredibly ignorant of you. How is it ignorant? I'm supposed to like people who worship the devil or insist that god is not real when I'm a christian? as a Christian, yes, you are. Jesus taught to accept everyone, for what they were, not to shun someone because you consider them sinners, because everyone has sinned, and whether its something like taking his name in vain or something like worshiping Satan, it's all the same.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Oct 27, 2007 18:14:24 GMT -5
How is it ignorant? I'm supposed to like people who worship the devil or insist that god is not real when I'm a christian? It's ignorant for thinking less of someone because they don't share the same beliefs as you. A religion is a belief. I'm sorry if Athiests and Satanists bother me, they just do. I have no problem with Muslims, Hindus, Jews, or anything like that, I am just a strong believer in God and when someone insists there is no God it bothers me. And I don't think less of anyone even if I don't agree with their beliefs. Just wanted to clear it up. This is a WWE board, not the lounge, so this is supposed to be about wrestling, please stop turning it into an argument, I know I'm probably not helping, but lets not argue anymore and thanks to the people who are staying on topic.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Oct 27, 2007 18:17:03 GMT -5
I think DDP and Heyman are jewish, Angle is christian, along with Bret, Eddie, Owen and others. Are there any other muslims other than MVP on the current roster?
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Post by J. Edward on Oct 27, 2007 18:28:11 GMT -5
MVP is a buddhist, he converted to that while in prison, changing his name from Alvin Burke to Hassan Assaid or something That was a gimmick im pretty sure
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