# 10 Marian Gaborik
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NYR 29-27-7 4th Atlantic , 9th East ...Fire SATHER!
Joined on: Aug 30, 2007 8:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by # 10 Marian Gaborik on Dec 12, 2007 13:40:40 GMT -5
i was convinced that after the mandible claw , chokeslam and stunner and after austin said the greatest superstar isnt in this ring that bret was coming out...and yet again another disapointment  |
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Post by mikebacsik on Dec 12, 2007 13:50:33 GMT -5
Bret and Rock wont be coming anywhere near the WWE in the future... so dont get your hopes up.
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Post by wrestlemania on Dec 12, 2007 14:32:28 GMT -5
I never get why people say that. And I've said it over and over again, the next time we'll see The Rock on WWE programming will be at the HOF when he's inducted. And only then he'll be there to say 'goodbye' to the WWE fans. He's moved on to bigger and better things. And I for one hope for the best in pursuing his acting career. Because he can talk on a mic and make you laugh? Good lets induct Larry The Cable g uy while we're at it. He can make people laugh and make a bunch of straight to DVD B rated movies. Only way he deserves to be in the hall of fame is if hes inducting Steve Austin Ermmm... Won WWF Championship 7 times Won WCW Championship twice Tag Titles 5 times IC Title twice Royal Rumble Winner Yeah, doesn't deserve HOF  |
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 14:34:57 GMT -5
I never get why people say that. And I've said it over and over again, the next time we'll see The Rock on WWE programming will be at the HOF when he's inducted. And only then he'll be there to say 'goodbye' to the WWE fans. He's moved on to bigger and better things. And I for one hope for the best in pursuing his acting career. And what was so great about his 6 year career that makes him deserve the Hall of Fame? Because he can talk on a mic and make you laugh? Good lets induct Larry The Cable g uy while we're at it. He can make people laugh and make a bunch of straight to DVD B rated movies. Only way he deserves to be in the hall of fame is if hes inducting Steve Austin There is no way, that any wrestling fan is this stupid. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 14:52:12 GMT -5
And what was so great about his 6 year career that makes him deserve the Hall of Fame? Because he can talk on a mic and make you laugh? Good lets induct Larry The Cable g uy while we're at it. He can make people laugh and make a bunch of straight to DVD B rated movies. Only way he deserves to be in the hall of fame is if hes inducting Steve Austin Ermmm... Won WWF Championship 7 times Won WCW Championship twice Tag Titles 5 times IC Title twice Royal Rumble Winner Yeah, doesn't deserve HOF 7 Time WWE Champion in basically 4-5 years and not one reign went over 4 months, Anybody can hold the WCW title that doesnt count (see David Arquette)..Tag titles havent been worth anything for the past 15 years, Ill give him the IC title and the Royal Rumble win. Your champion is suppose to carry your company right? How did the Rock carry the WWF/E when he never had a reign of over 4 months? What did the rock ever really do for the business of wrestling? Austin vs McMahon is what ushered in the Attitude era. Rock was just part of it. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the Rock when he was on TV but a 6 year career isnt hall of fame worthy. It would be different if he cut his teeth in USWA then went off to ECW, got bought out by WCW and treated wrong then came to WWE but he spent 6 years in a wrestling ring. Thats like sayin the big show is a future hall of famer...Just not gonna happen |
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 15:05:38 GMT -5
Ermmm... Won WWF Championship 7 times Won WCW Championship twice Tag Titles 5 times IC Title twice Royal Rumble Winner Yeah, doesn't deserve HOF 7 Time WWE Champion in basically 4-5 years and not one reign went over 4 months, Anybody can hold the WCW title that doesnt count (see David Arquette)..Tag titles havent been worth anything for the past 15 years, Ill give him the IC title and the Royal Rumble win. Your champion is suppose to carry your company right? How did the Rock carry the WWF/E when he never had a reign of over 4 months? What did the rock ever really do for the business of wrestling? Austin vs McMahon is what ushered in the Attitude era. Rock was just part of it. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the Rock when he was on TV but a 6 year career isnt hall of fame worthy. It would be different if he cut his teeth in USWA then went off to ECW, got bought out by WCW and treated wrong then came to WWE but he spent 6 years in a wrestling ring. Thats like sayin the big show is a future hall of famer...Just not gonna happen You'll give him those? Who the  are you to give him anything? Despite how you feel about tag titles and such, HE STILL WON THEM. The Rock was the most popular superstar for a very, very long time. He put on 5 star matches. He was gold on the mic. He has won countless championships. And for your little "6 year career" argument. He debuted in 95, guy. He didn't fully leave until what, 2003? |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 12, 2007 15:10:34 GMT -5
And what was so great about his 6 year career that makes him deserve the Hall of Fame? Because he can talk on a mic and make you laugh? Good lets induct Larry The Cable g uy while we're at it. He can make people laugh and make a bunch of straight to DVD B rated movies. Only way he deserves to be in the hall of fame is if hes inducting Steve Austin There is no way, that any wrestling fan is this stupid. Dosn't him having Jannetty in his sig tell you somthing? |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:22:06 GMT -5
7 Time WWE Champion in basically 4-5 years and not one reign went over 4 months, Anybody can hold the WCW title that doesnt count (see David Arquette)..Tag titles havent been worth anything for the past 15 years, Ill give him the IC title and the Royal Rumble win. Your champion is suppose to carry your company right? How did the Rock carry the WWF/E when he never had a reign of over 4 months? What did the rock ever really do for the business of wrestling? Austin vs McMahon is what ushered in the Attitude era. Rock was just part of it. Dont get me wrong I enjoyed the Rock when he was on TV but a 6 year career isnt hall of fame worthy. It would be different if he cut his teeth in USWA then went off to ECW, got bought out by WCW and treated wrong then came to WWE but he spent 6 years in a wrestling ring. Thats like sayin the big show is a future hall of famer...Just not gonna happen You'll give him those? Who the are you to give him anything? Despite how you feel about tag titles and such, HE STILL WON THEM. The Rock was the most popular superstar for a very, very long time. He put on 5 star matches. He was gold on the mic. He has won countless championships. And for your little "6 year career" argument. He debuted in 95, guy. He didn't fully leave until what, 2003? He debuted in November of 1996 @ Survivor Series and by 03 most of the time the rock just did promos and would wrestle during PPVs.... The only reason marty jannetty is in my profile stooge is because of the 1st Annual marty jannetty free giveaway |
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Post by Gazza on Dec 12, 2007 15:26:12 GMT -5
You'll give him those? Who the are you to give him anything? Despite how you feel about tag titles and such, HE STILL WON THEM. The Rock was the most popular superstar for a very, very long time. He put on 5 star matches. He was gold on the mic. He has won countless championships. And for your little "6 year career" argument. He debuted in 95, guy. He didn't fully leave until what, 2003? He debuted in November of 1996 @ Survivor Series and by 03 most of the time the rock just did promos and would wrestle during PPVs.... The only reason marty jannetty is in my profile stooge is because of the 1st Annual marty jannetty free giveaway Because of the what now? And if you think that The Rock Dosn't deserve to be in HOF then you are just a complete idiot. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:27:20 GMT -5
Thats your opinion, i dont expect anyone who grew up during the attitude era to understand the reasoning behind it....but for argument sake, Do you feel The Big Show/Giant is HOF worthy?
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Post by Gazza on Dec 12, 2007 15:29:30 GMT -5
Thats your opinion, i dont expect anyone who grew up during the attitude era to understand the reasoning behind it....but for argument sake, Do you feel The Big Show/Giant is HOF worthy? Not has much as The Rock, but he did do alot for WWE and he was realy entertianing and moved well for his size. But before Show theres people like The Undertaker, Flair etc that should be in before him. |
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 15:33:35 GMT -5
Thats your opinion, i dont expect anyone who grew up during the attitude era to understand the reasoning behind it....but for argument sake, Do you feel The Big Show/Giant is HOF worthy? Are you seriously trying to compare The Rocks career to The Big Show's?  |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:37:05 GMT -5
Thats your opinion, i dont expect anyone who grew up during the attitude era to understand the reasoning behind it....but for argument sake, Do you feel The Big Show/Giant is HOF worthy? Not has much as The Rock, but he did do alot for WWE and he was realy entertianing and moved well for his size. But before Show theres people like The Undertaker, Flair etc that should be in before him. Flair and Undertaker are the top 2 probably on the roster thats need to be in. but for the same argument thats being used for The Rock (his titles) you can say that big show deserves to be in it. Honestly i dont think Show should be in. I love him to death and what he does cant compare really to guys like Taker and Kane. Show was/is a legit 7fter and was always around 450-550lbs his list of titles were long as well 2 Time WCW Champion (Legit WCW, not bs in WWE) 2 Time WCW Tag Champ 3 Time WWE Tag Champ (in some form, WWE/Raw/SD) 3 Time WWE Hardcore Champion 2 Time WWE World Champion 1 Time ECW World Champion 1 Time United States Champion To me a HOFer puts back into the business. Flair, Hogan, Taker, Race, Funk, Hart, Lawler are true Pro Wrestling Hall of Famers. I just cant rank The Rock with that group.....Again with argument sake what about guys like Kane, Diesel, Edge, Christian, Chris Benoit?? Are they HOF worthy? |
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 15:39:00 GMT -5
Not has much as The Rock, but he did do alot for WWE and he was realy entertianing and moved well for his size. But before Show theres people like The Undertaker, Flair etc that should be in before him. Flair and Undertaker are the top 2 probably on the roster thats need to be in. but for the same argument thats being used for The Rock (his titles) you can say that big show deserves to be in it. Honestly i dont think Show should be in. I love him to death and what he does cant compare really to guys like Taker and Kane. Show was/is a legit 7fter and was always around 450-550lbs his list of titles were long as well 2 Time WCW Champion (Legit WCW, not bs in WWE) 2 Time WCW Tag Champ 3 Time WWE Tag Champ (in some form, WWE/Raw/SD) 3 Time WWE Hardcore Champion 2 Time WWE World Champion 1 Time ECW World Champion 1 Time United States Champion To me a HOFer puts back into the business. Flair, Hogan, Taker, Race, Funk, Hart, Lawler are true Pro Wrestling Hall of Famers. I just cant rank The Rock with that group.....Again with argument sake what about guys like Kane, Diesel, Edge, Christian, Chris Benoit?? Are they HOF worthy? IS Chris Benoit HOF worthy? With what he did put aside... 110% yes. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:41:31 GMT -5
Thats your opinion, i dont expect anyone who grew up during the attitude era to understand the reasoning behind it....but for argument sake, Do you feel The Big Show/Giant is HOF worthy? Are you seriously trying to compare The Rocks career to The Big Show's? Seeing as the only argument being given for the rock is his titles won and his mic skills I just want someone to show me a legit reason why hes a sure thing first ballot HOF type guy. Again I freely admit that I enjoyed The Rock in the mid-late 90s. Ive watched A LOT of wrestling and sports for that matter and you cant give someone a HOF career just for their championship count. I can freely admit if someone gives me a flawless argument as to why The Rock should be a first ballot HOFer then ill back off my statements. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:44:16 GMT -5
Flair and Undertaker are the top 2 probably on the roster thats need to be in. but for the same argument thats being used for The Rock (his titles) you can say that big show deserves to be in it. Honestly i dont think Show should be in. I love him to death and what he does cant compare really to guys like Taker and Kane. Show was/is a legit 7fter and was always around 450-550lbs his list of titles were long as well 2 Time WCW Champion (Legit WCW, not bs in WWE) 2 Time WCW Tag Champ 3 Time WWE Tag Champ (in some form, WWE/Raw/SD) 3 Time WWE Hardcore Champion 2 Time WWE World Champion 1 Time ECW World Champion 1 Time United States Champion To me a HOFer puts back into the business. Flair, Hogan, Taker, Race, Funk, Hart, Lawler are true Pro Wrestling Hall of Famers. I just cant rank The Rock with that group.....Again with argument sake what about guys like Kane, Diesel, Edge, Christian, Chris Benoit?? Are they HOF worthy? IS Chris Benoit HOF worthy? With what he did put aside... 110% yes. It shouldnt matter what Benoit did. The WWE Hall of Fame is for great wrestlers. Its not a humanitary (sp?) award. Its like Pete Rose being in the baseball HOF, on the field the guy played his heart out and deserves to be in the HOF. Nothing he did gambling wise affected the game. Bonds on the other hand (assuming he did steroids) DID effect the game and shouldnt be allowed in the Hall..Same with the Black Sox |
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Post by chumped on Dec 12, 2007 15:45:14 GMT -5
Are you seriously trying to compare The Rocks career to The Big Show's? Seeing as the only argument being given for the rock is his titles won and his mic skills I just want someone to show me a legit reason why hes a sure thing first ballot HOF type guy. Again I freely admit that I enjoyed The Rock in the mid-late 90s. Ive watched A LOT of wrestling and sports for that matter and you cant give someone a HOF career just for their championship count. I can freely admit if someone gives me a flawless argument as to why The Rock should be a first ballot HOFer then ill back off my statements. There shouldn't be any argument. If you watched anything The Rock did during his career, you would know why he deserves Hall of Fame. The guy was a TREMENDOUS draw. He was insanely over. He put on excellent, memorable matches every time he laced up the boots. The guy brought in ratings like crazy, so obviously he carried the company for a while. Then, add the fact that he was gold on the mic, and a 7 time champion among other championship reigns, you got yourself one of the best ever, and a certified Hall of Famer. |
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:50:17 GMT -5
Ill admit he was very over with the fans, but how can you say he was the one that brought in the ratings?? I was 14-15-16 at the time. Everybody i talked to was tuning in to see Steve Austin. From 97 to 01 Austin is the one that carried that company. Sure the rock was part of it. You had to have the rock vs Austin fueds but Rock was more like Roddy Piper. Hogan was the top draw, Hogan was the big dog. Piper was great on the mic. Piper was great in the ring but without Hogan would Piper have been a HOFer?
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Post by Gazza on Dec 12, 2007 15:52:01 GMT -5
Yeah, look at people in the Hall Of Fame... Does it matter if we think th ey deserve it or not? People get in it even if they don't, Eddie for example, he was great and that but he only got in because he died which isn't right IMO, they could of added somone more deserving.
But has for as I see it The Rock should be in the HOF!
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Post by carly1988 on Dec 12, 2007 15:55:53 GMT -5
Yeah, look at people in the Hall Of Fame... Does it matter if we think th ey deserve it or not? People get in it even if they don't, Eddie for example, he was great and that but he only got in because he died which isn't right IMO, they could of added somone more deserving. But has for as I see it The Rock should be in the HOF! Your exactly right. Eddie isnt a HOFer and the only reason hes in it is because he died. Now do i think The Rock WILL be inducted in the HOF? Yes i do. I just dont think he deserves to be the "top draw" type HOFer that everyone treats him like. He shouldnt be the Hogan/Flair/Hart/Rhodes guy at the HOF |
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