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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 0:33:20 GMT -5
The idea that the government would step in and shut down a company is ridiculous. They can't claim unsafe working conditions as the wrestlers many times are doing this to themselves. They have no claims that it causes superstars to be bat **** crazy...a few of them apparently are anyway. They have no monetary claims that can be brought against the company over this as Benoit apparently acted out of feelings that he apparently had that had nothing to do with the company. There is no claim that can be made about Vince not testing for steroids. There is also no proof Benoit had anything in his system anyway...and if he did he did so on his own. This thread is dumb. I'm not blaming anyone but Benoit, just saying that if he was a roid head, it probably didn't help his cause as far as rage goes. Again, the media continues to attack the WWF despite everything you've said (and I agree, everything you said is true.). Obviously the media wouldn't continue to attack WWF if they felt there was no chance of anything being done. They even got close to actually having something done in the mid 90s. The media attacks WWE whenever a wrestler dies, it's their outlet to enhance the stories.
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Post by Gussy on Jun 27, 2007 0:34:13 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels? I rest my case. Hulk Hogan? Sid Vicious? Diesel? Gene Snitsky? The Ultimate Warrior? The Undertaker? Kane? The Big Show? The list goes on. As for Michaels, there are always exceptions. You also have Rey Mysterio, EDGE, RVD, Ric Flair...all who weigh less than 240 lbs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:34:58 GMT -5
Id like comparison pics of Benoit then and benoit now... Im beggin ya WWF... www.onlineworldoWe spam!/pictures/c/chrisbenoit/49.jpg[/img] WCW... www.onlineworldoWe spam!/pictures/c/chrisbenoit/34.jpg[/img] He's obviousy big in both, but there's no doubt that there is a difference. I guess Online World of Wrestling pics aren't allowed to be posted here or something. But right click it and get the properties and put the image URL into your address bar.
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Post by Sound888 on Jun 27, 2007 0:35:13 GMT -5
No. This is one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen on the boards. Congrats. Yes, even stupider than the boner topics
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Post by layzie on Jun 27, 2007 0:35:15 GMT -5
I don't care if you inject that needle every minute for twelve hours, so called "roid rage" was not the cause of Chris' rampage. so wrong you are.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:35:23 GMT -5
The idea that the government would step in and shut down a company is ridiculous. They can't claim unsafe working conditions as the wrestlers many times are doing this to themselves. They have no claims that it causes superstars to be bat **** crazy...a few of them apparently are anyway. They have no monetary claims that can be brought against the company over this as Benoit apparently acted out of feelings that he apparently had that had nothing to do with the company. There is no claim that can be made about Vince not testing for steroids. There is also no proof Benoit had anything in his system anyway...and if he did he did so on his own. This thread is dumb. I'm not blaming anyone but Benoit, just saying that if he was a roid head, it probably didn't help his cause as far as rage goes. Again, the media continues to attack the WWF despite everything you've said (and I agree, everything you said is true.). Obviously the media wouldn't continue to attack WWF if they felt there was no chance of anything being done. They even got close to actually having something done in the mid 90s. Stop watching Foxnews, MSNBC, and CNN. They are garbage and most of their viewers get are so mindless they automatically assume that every newscaster with an opinion and a mic is spouting correct information. Until I see some toxicology reports that steroids were in his body at the time of death and a good amount of them I'm assuming it's all bullcrap. The media feeds on this crap for ratings and that's it. There is no vendetta against wrestling, they just want to ride the frenzy until it's over and they can squeeze every rating point possible out of the story. That being said, this topic is still dumb and Vince and the WWE will not be shut down by the government.
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Post by antihero867 on Jun 27, 2007 0:36:35 GMT -5
Wrestling isnt gonna stop because of one psycho. The show must go on. And with all the support that WWE gives to this stupid war i dont see America banning them.
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Post by rko88 on Jun 27, 2007 0:37:26 GMT -5
Why not shutdown NFL?? People do roids, kill people, and die there too I gotta agree wid this guy ALL SPORTS any sport someone is trying to get away wid using roids...So if this is ur question why not ask should sports be banned all together sipmple as that and still we will have ppl usin drugs to enhance themselfs even if they arent pros
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:37:27 GMT -5
I'm not blaming anyone but Benoit, just saying that if he was a roid head, it probably didn't help his cause as far as rage goes. Again, the media continues to attack the WWF despite everything you've said (and I agree, everything you said is true.). Obviously the media wouldn't continue to attack WWF if they felt there was no chance of anything being done. They even got close to actually having something done in the mid 90s. Stop watching Foxnews, MSNBC, and CNN. They are garbage and most of their viewers get are so mindless they automatically assume that every newscaster with an opinion and a mic is spouting correct information. Until I see some toxicology reports that steroids were in his body at the time of death and a good amount of them I'm assuming it's all bull ****. The media feeds on this **** for ratings and that's it. There is no vendetta against wrestling, they just want to ride the frenzy until it's over and they can squeeze every rating point possible out of the story. That being said, this topic is still dumb and Vince and the WWE will not be shut down by the government. The question is not, "Will it?" but rather, "Should it?" There were prescription steroids found in the home. I don't look to those news stations as if they're my Bibles. But as skeptical as we should be, we also shouldn't throw them to the wayside as completely untrustworthy.
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 0:37:52 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels? I rest my case. Hulk Hogan? Sid Vicious? Diesel? Gene Snitsky? The Ultimate Warrior? The Undertaker? Kane? The Big Show? The list goes on. As for Michaels, there are always exceptions. Eddie Guerrero? Ken Kennedy? Randy Orton? Steve Austin? Kurt Angle? Chris Jericho?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:39:07 GMT -5
No. This is one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen on the boards. Congrats. Yes, even stupider than the boner topics Well, sorry for caring about wrestlers' safety.
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 0:40:33 GMT -5
Stop watching Foxnews, MSNBC, and CNN. They are garbage and most of their viewers get are so mindless they automatically assume that every newscaster with an opinion and a mic is spouting correct information. Until I see some toxicology reports that steroids were in his body at the time of death and a good amount of them I'm assuming it's all bull ****. The media feeds on this **** for ratings and that's it. There is no vendetta against wrestling, they just want to ride the frenzy until it's over and they can squeeze every rating point possible out of the story. That being said, this topic is still dumb and Vince and the WWE will not be shut down by the government. The question is not, "Will it?" but rather, "Should it?" There were prescription steroids found in the home. I don't look to those news stations as if they're my Bibles. But as skeptical as we should be, we also shouldn't throw them to the wayside as completely untrustworthy. Maybe... just maybe the prescription steroids were for, you know... his hundreds of injuries sustained over the years? Farfetched concept, I know...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:41:05 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan? Sid Vicious? Diesel? Gene Snitsky? The Ultimate Warrior? The Undertaker? Kane? The Big Show? The list goes on. As for Michaels, there are always exceptions. Eddie Guerrero? Ken Kennedy? Randy Orton? Steve Austin? Kurt Angle? Chris Jericho? We could sit all day going back and forth with names. The fact is, if you want a legitimate push in WWF, you need to be a huge musclehead. Batista is huge. John Cena isn't small. Bradshaw is big. Lesnar was big. Triple H is big. Goldberg is big. The Rock wasn't small. Lashley and Show are big. Even McMahon himself is big. All major world champs in the last decade or so.
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Post by sincityhero on Jun 27, 2007 0:42:09 GMT -5
Eddie and Benoit werent huge but they obviously used roids to look bigger... Even REY.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:42:14 GMT -5
The question is not, "Will it?" but rather, "Should it?" There were prescription steroids found in the home. I don't look to those news stations as if they're my Bibles. But as skeptical as we should be, we also shouldn't throw them to the wayside as completely untrustworthy. Maybe... just maybe the prescription steroids were for, you know... his hundreds of injuries sustained over the years? Farfetched concept, I know... Perhaps. No one is denying that. But are treating injuries worth two innocent deaths? Benoit, roids or not, is responsible for his actions. Like I said, though, the roids certainly didn't help.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:43:03 GMT -5
Stop watching Foxnews, MSNBC, and CNN. They are garbage and most of their viewers get are so mindless they automatically assume that every newscaster with an opinion and a mic is spouting correct information. Until I see some toxicology reports that steroids were in his body at the time of death and a good amount of them I'm assuming it's all bull ****. The media feeds on this **** for ratings and that's it. There is no vendetta against wrestling, they just want to ride the frenzy until it's over and they can squeeze every rating point possible out of the story. That being said, this topic is still dumb and Vince and the WWE will not be shut down by the government. The question is not, "Will it?" but rather, "Should it?" There were prescription steroids found in the home. I don't look to those news stations as if they're my Bibles. But as skeptical as we should be, we also shouldn't throw them to the wayside as completely untrustworthy. Daniel had a condition, nobody knows if they were his or not. Benoit had recently had neck surgery. News stations such as the ones I mentioned before are about as trustworthy as they appear to the viewer. Deception is what they go for. It's all about "the big scoop". Find me one story that says Benoit had steroids in him at the time of death and I'll give you a dollar.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:43:12 GMT -5
I'm not blaming anyone but Benoit, just saying that if he was a roid head, it probably didn't help his cause as far as rage goes. Again, the media continues to attack the WWF despite everything you've said (and I agree, everything you said is true.). Obviously the media wouldn't continue to attack WWF if they felt there was no chance of anything being done. They even got close to actually having something done in the mid 90s. The media attacks WWE whenever a wrestler dies, it's their outlet to enhance the stories. Why were they attacking in the mid 90s? Who died then?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:45:01 GMT -5
The question is not, "Will it?" but rather, "Should it?" There were prescription steroids found in the home. I don't look to those news stations as if they're my Bibles. But as skeptical as we should be, we also shouldn't throw them to the wayside as completely untrustworthy. Daniel had a condition, nobody knows if they were his or not. Benoit had recently had neck surgery. News stations such as the ones I mentioned before are about as trustworthy as they appear to the viewer. Deception is what they go for. It's all about "the big scoop". Find me one story that says Benoit had steroids in him at the time of death and I'll give you a dollar. Agreed. There's no doubt that television stations are about "the big scoop," as you said. Nevertheless - Find me one story that says Benoit, without a doubt, DID NOT have steroids in him at the time of his death. You can't prove or disprove either option yet.
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 0:45:11 GMT -5
Maybe... just maybe the prescription steroids were for, you know... his hundreds of injuries sustained over the years? Farfetched concept, I know... Perhaps. No one is denying that. But are treating injuries worth two innocent deaths? Benoit, roids or not, is responsible for his actions. Like I said, though, the roids certainly didn't help. I'm not saying Benoit wasn't responsible for his actions in any way, if anything I'm saying he's even more to blame rather than pinning a small portion of the blame on his alleged steroid use.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:47:14 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero? Ken Kennedy? Randy Orton? Steve Austin? Kurt Angle? Chris Jericho? We could sit all day going back and forth with names. The fact is, if you want a legitimate push in WWF, you need to be a huge musclehead. Batista is huge. He was big before the WWE.John Cena isn't small. See Batista.Bradshaw is big. No he isn't.Lesnar was big. See Cena, Batista.Triple H is big. Leg Injury, could be rightGoldberg is big. WCW, also played pro football, big before WWEThe Rock wasn't small. College Football, excellent shape, big before WWE, still not huge.Lashley and Show are big. Lashley was big as an amateur, Big Show is 7 foot ing tall and isn't big because of roidsEven McMahon himself is big. Perhaps he did, during the 80's boom. I don't think anybody doubts this.All major world champs in the last decade or so. I posted in quotes debunking all of your "roid champs". This thread is still dumb and you are not really providing any valid points still.
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