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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:48:28 GMT -5
omgz this topic is amazing, its better than someone making a thread about their favorite wrestlers attire colour lololol *waits for someone to make that topic*
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:49:07 GMT -5
Daniel had a condition, nobody knows if they were his or not. Benoit had recently had neck surgery. News stations such as the ones I mentioned before are about as trustworthy as they appear to the viewer. Deception is what they go for. It's all about "the big scoop". Find me one story that says Benoit had steroids in him at the time of death and I'll give you a dollar. Agreed. There's no doubt that television stations are about "the big scoop," as you said. Nevertheless - Find me one story that says Benoit, without a doubt, DID NOT have steroids in him at the time of his death. You can't prove or disprove either option yet. Welcome to the American judicial system. Innocent until proven guilty. We'll talk after the toxicology reports.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:49:35 GMT -5
We could sit all day going back and forth with names. The fact is, if you want a legitimate push in WWF, you need to be a huge musclehead. Batista is huge. He was big before the WWE.John Cena isn't small. See Batista.Bradshaw is big. No he isn't.Lesnar was big. See Cena, Batista.Triple H is big. Leg Injury, could be rightGoldberg is big. WCW, also played pro football, big before WWEThe Rock wasn't small. College Football, excellent shape, big before WWE, still not huge.Lashley and Show are big. Lashley was big as an amateur, Big Show is 7 foot ing tall and isn't big because of roidsEven McMahon himself is big. Perhaps he did, during the 80's boom. I don't think anybody doubts this.All major world champs in the last decade or so. I posted in quotes debunking all of your "roid champs". This thread is still dumb and you are not really providing any valid points still. Never said you had to do roids. Simply stated that you had to be big. Unfortunately though, most performers use roids to get big. Why the personal attacks? I'm agreeing with a good amount of what you have to say, and you still attack me. I have nothing against you.
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Post by uzerx on Jun 27, 2007 0:49:47 GMT -5
It is anyone's choice to use roids. Their fault, not the business'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:51:16 GMT -5
Perhaps. No one is denying that. But are treating injuries worth two innocent deaths? Benoit, roids or not, is responsible for his actions. Like I said, though, the roids certainly didn't help. I'm not saying Benoit wasn't responsible for his actions in any way, if anything I'm saying he's even more to blame rather than pinning a small portion of the blame on his alleged steroid use. Consider the point taken, for the most part agreed with, and your opinion respected.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:51:54 GMT -5
Agreed. There's no doubt that television stations are about "the big scoop," as you said. Nevertheless - Find me one story that says Benoit, without a doubt, DID NOT have steroids in him at the time of his death. You can't prove or disprove either option yet. Welcome to the American judicial system. Innocent until proven guilty. We'll talk after the toxicology reports. Fine with me.
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Post by caveman on Jun 27, 2007 0:51:56 GMT -5
The government should be concerned with throwing the president and vice president in jail and ending the war. Professional wrestling should be of little concern. We as fans should hold Vince McMahon accountable.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:53:08 GMT -5
I'm just saying that I've heard this steroid thing all day long and it's like beating a dead horse. Three people have died and all the media cares about is whether it was roid rage induced. Who gives a crap? What if it wasn't? He's just bat crap crazy? What if it was? Then they have an excuse to point the finger at Vince.
...and therein lies where this whole frenzy has started and why it continues to be such a big deal. Benoit's dead and the media wants someone to point the finger at.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 0:54:46 GMT -5
I'm just saying that I've heard this steroid thing all day long and it's like beating a dead horse. Three people have died and all the media cares about is whether it was roid rage induced. Who gives a ****? What if it wasn't? He's just bat **** crazy? What if it was? Then they have an excuse to point the finger at Vince. ...and therein lies where this whole frenzy has started and why it continues to be such a big deal. Benoit's dead and the media wants someone to point the finger at. It's probably human nature to look for a scapegoat. But it still doesn't take away the possibility that Benoit was on roids. As mentioned to an earlier member, however, I thank you for the conversation. Consider your point taken and your opinion respected.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:59:57 GMT -5
I'm just saying that I've heard this steroid thing all day long and it's like beating a dead horse. Three people have died and all the media cares about is whether it was roid rage induced. Who gives a ****? What if it wasn't? He's just bat **** crazy? What if it was? Then they have an excuse to point the finger at Vince. ...and therein lies where this whole frenzy has started and why it continues to be such a big deal. Benoit's dead and the media wants someone to point the finger at. It's probably human nature to look for a scapegoat. But it still doesn't take away the possibility that Benoit was on roids. As mentioned to an earlier member, however, I thank you for the conversation. Consider your point taken and your opinion respected. Right on. Same to you. If this thread is still open when the toxicology reports come back make sure you make a post in here so we can discuss it. If he's on them I will definately concede my point about his character, however I will not concede that Vince should be analyzed any closer than he already is.
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Post by "Vintage" HBK Still Rules on Jun 27, 2007 1:09:26 GMT -5
Shutting down professional wrestling because some people don't know how to handle the stress, that's just silly. That'd be like cancelling all algebra classes because every so often someone failed, which I wish would happen because I'm in my fourth try at college algebra. Hell, even get rid of the army so returning soldiers don't kill their families. Just a little something to add perspective.
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Post by ace0051 on Jun 27, 2007 1:19:51 GMT -5
you are the craziest person that i have ever seen in my whole entire life like my whole f'n life ....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 1:22:37 GMT -5
you are the craziest person that i have ever seen in my whole entire life like my whole f'n life .... You're one crazy mofo!
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 1:22:53 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out who you are... the username seems familiar.
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Post by cenaroxorz123 on Jun 27, 2007 1:25:45 GMT -5
Shut down by the government? What... the... ... Um, sorry....just.... no.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 1:26:11 GMT -5
you are the craziest person that i have ever seen in my whole entire life like my whole f'n life .... How do you even know who I am? Just looking out for the safety of the performers..
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Post by Mark on Jun 27, 2007 1:27:55 GMT -5
Thats Barnxbee
and I strongly believe to GOD that it wasnt roid rage and that the roids were for his neck
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 1:28:01 GMT -5
you are the craziest person that i have ever seen in my whole entire life like my whole f'n life .... How do you even know who I am? I heard he keeps candid photos of you on his refrigerator.
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Post by ace0051 on Jun 27, 2007 1:28:22 GMT -5
i don't need too i don't want to either you are insane ha
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Post by j2dacversion3 on Jun 27, 2007 1:29:43 GMT -5
i don't need too i don't want to either you are insane ha Judging off your name alone... Pot, meet kettle.
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