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Post by chumped on Dec 29, 2007 15:20:20 GMT -5
Warrior better than HHH, what the hell are you smoking. Idiot. compare warriors popularity in his prime to hhh's triple h himself wouldnt say he was more popular than a wm6 warrior This isn't WM6. And look at Triple H's career compared to Warriors. Yeah.
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Post by shenmue on Dec 29, 2007 15:21:06 GMT -5
I was talking about talent, there no Doubt the Warrior was popular but that dosen't make him more deserving of a WWE champ then HHH.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 29, 2007 15:25:22 GMT -5
its def not because he is super over- austin is the most over guy ever and his title reigns arent like that it is a blatant abuse of power he isnt as good as hbk y2j booker t rvd or even kane and i believe he knows in his heart these guys are more over and he just doesent care- he wants to play ric flair. hhh will never amount to half of what naitch is- but he has the power to play dress up. bret hart hbk warrior rock austin all great over champions hhh/cena just guys vince wants us to like- hand slected!!!!!!!!!! most guys earn their push now vince chooses and grooms the guys he wants you to like You do realize that while Austin may be more over... HHH's career w/ Vince has lasted a lot longer. Shush. You will break people's fragile enclosed worlds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2007 15:25:31 GMT -5
In late 2004 is when it became too much. Orton shouldn't have even won the belt, but Triple H taking the title from him, then having it vacated, only to win it RIGHT BACK, was just an abuse of power. And his most recent reign was a joke. So, in my mind, Triple H deserved his first 7-8 reigns. I agree, after he was handed the belt. Lost it at Survivor Series then retained it at Armageddon it was getting abit much for me. Im not the biggest Triple H fan. He is good in the ring, good on the mic, etc. But he does abuse pwoer to much. He shouldve only had the belt 6 or 7 times but not 11. He is just trying to become the Ric Flair of today. I promise that but the time Triple H retires he will have 16 maybe 17 title reigns under his belt. He should not have beat Orton in 2004. If Orton held onto it until the Chamber at New Years Revolution it probably wouldnt have been so bad. The ONLY time I have cheered for him to dethrone a champ was at WrestleMania 22. And No Mercy was horrible. If WWE wanted to make Orton an awesome heel. He wouldnt have lost the belt to Triple H after 10 minutes of him being champ.
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Post by brethartthehitman on Dec 29, 2007 15:26:58 GMT -5
I was talking about talent, there no Doubt the Warrior was popular but that dosen't make him more deserving of a WWE champ then HHH. in terms of popularity warrior is unmatchable............. period!!!!!!!! that alone makes warrior more deserving promo wise warrior was very deep and very mysterious- he didnt give everything away- all great artists are like that the artist draws the painting in thier vision and the onlookers job is to interprete it way off topic i know but my point is warrior is amazing! hhh is good really good but not austin hart bret or owen davey boy smith rock hogan hbk his career most have more ''accolades'' but those guys have more charisma and wrestling ability compare hh to davey boy smith in the ring and there is a huge gap in talent davey is 10 stars1
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Post by Adam on Dec 29, 2007 15:28:10 GMT -5
I guess we're defending Triple H this month.
...sorry, missed the memo :-\
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Post by brethartthehitman on Dec 29, 2007 15:28:26 GMT -5
You do realize that while Austin may be more over... HHH's career w/ Vince has lasted a lot longer. Shush. You will break people's fragile enclosed worlds. thats a very funny thought why are people so fragile in here lol ''enclosed worlds''? what do they not get out much lol
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Post by brethartthehitman on Dec 29, 2007 15:29:13 GMT -5
I guess we're defending Triple H this month. ...sorry, missed the memo :-\ id rather eat poop than defend him i never spend this much time in a thread but i hate hearing him over- praised
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Post by shenmue on Dec 29, 2007 15:31:47 GMT -5
IMO HHH is a better wrestler in ring and a 10x better mic worker that the brittish Bulldog.
Bulldog only had good matches against Hart and Michaels.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2007 15:33:41 GMT -5
IMO HHH is a better wrestler in ring and a 10x better mic worker that the brittish Bulldog. Bulldog only had good matches against Hart and Michaels. Ok,ok,ok lets hold up here for a sec. Yes, Triple H is much better on the mic than Davey, but to say he's a better wrestler than Davey...thats a bit of a reach.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 29, 2007 15:37:12 GMT -5
Shush. You will break people's fragile enclosed worlds. thats a very funny thought why are people so fragile in here lol ''enclosed worlds''? what do they not get out much lol Well I can tell from the amazing quickness with which people broke the Jericho Code, yes, people around here do not seem to get out much.
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Post by American Phenom on Dec 29, 2007 15:37:16 GMT -5
At least Triple H was nice enough to put Umaga over...oh...wait...
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Post by Chicago on Dec 29, 2007 15:37:24 GMT -5
Warrior never made any ing sense in any of his promos. He was terrible in the ring and nothing more than a steroid freak. His only talents (if you want to call them that) was the ability to run around the ring, not protect his opponent's in the ring and have semi-roid rage moments shaking the ring ropes. As for Triple H, he definitely wishes he was the Hulk Hogan or Steve Austin of his era, but he wasn't. His mic skills have significantly improved over the years, but his character has grown stale since about 2002/2003, in my opinion. It's ridiculous that he's held a Heavyweight title 11 times, as I don't believe any legit champion should. Obviously wrestling is fake, but if you're trying to portray someone as a champion, 1-2 month title reigns isn't very convincing. I would much rather see a guy carry the belt for an entire year over two or three smaller reigns in one year. But, Hunter has the pull backstage and the credibility as someone who can carry the company, so it's not as if he hasn't deserved some of his championships. Just...not all of them.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 29, 2007 15:39:29 GMT -5
IMO HHH is a better wrestler in ring and a 10x better mic worker that the brittish Bulldog. Bulldog only had good matches against Hart and Michaels. That's just crazy. Owen Hart, European Championship Tournament Finals, ring a bell?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2007 15:42:34 GMT -5
IMO HHH is a better wrestler in ring and a 10x better mic worker that the brittish Bulldog. Bulldog only had good matches against Hart and Michaels. That's just crazy. Owen Hart, European Championship Tournament Finals, ring a bell? Yep those were the days ;D
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Post by shenmue on Dec 29, 2007 15:45:36 GMT -5
Can't you read i said Hart lol.
You can't tell me Bulldog had more great matches that HHH.
Bulldog was good but he is over rated.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 29, 2007 15:49:18 GMT -5
Can't you read i said Hart lol. You can't tell me Bulldog had more great matches that HHH. Bulldog was good but he is over rated. Hart s would have been more clear. Bulldog never had the opportunity to be in 1450643 main events like Triple H has, but if given the time and spotlight, he could put on a better wrestling match than Triple H, I believe. Not better on the mic than Hunter, by far, but a better wrestler in the ring.
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Post by brethartthehitman on Dec 29, 2007 15:50:47 GMT -5
bulldog> anybody in wee history strength speed technical master charisma look crowd always loved him or with cornette hated him
davey>hhh
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Post by Stevo on Dec 29, 2007 15:56:00 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of both 'H and Davey, and I've got to say, Davey is by far the better in-ring performer. He was always a great performer, and his tag matches with the likes of Owen and Dynamite are still amazing to watch. His Japan work is better than anything Triple H has done in the ring. When Bulldog locked up with Owen, Bret, or Shawn, we had quality matches, no stipulations needed (HIAC, Street Fight).
I will say this, though, Bulldog never had to be an in-ring general. He was always with guys who had equal to better skills than he did. Triple H, on the other hand, has made a career off of carrying guys to good matches.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2007 15:58:56 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of both 'H and Davey, and I've got to say, Davey is by far the better in-ring performer. He was always a great performer, and his tag matches with the likes of Owen and Dynamite are still amazing to watch. His Japan work is better than anything Triple H has done in the ring. When Bulldog locked up with Owen, Bret, or Shawn, we had quality matches, no stipulations needed (HIAC, Street Fight). I will say this, though, Bulldog never had to be an in-ring general. He was always with guys who had equal to better skills than he did. Triple H, on the other hand, has made a career off of carrying guys to good matches. Beautifuly put.
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