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Post by Chicago on Apr 28, 2008 0:20:26 GMT -5
No, just, no. Immaturity is never a good thing in the wrestling business. It's funny that you mention Bret and Shawn, because both could have had great matches together if it weren't for both wrestler's immature attitudes during 1997. In other words, neither wanted to lose to one another which caused their Wrestlemania XIII rematch to be canceled as well as the proposed three or four losses in a row to HBK that Bret would have faced had he stayed with the company in November of 1997, leading up to 'Mania XIV. They never had that many great matches together to begin with and one of the reasons for that was because of their dislike for each other. Austin and the Rock never hated each other, so I don't know where you get off assuming that (other than from the characters they played on TV each week). I have to examine the bolded statement above. First off, HBK & Hart's WM 13 re-match was canceled due to HBK "losing his smile" (aka faking injury to avoid losing to Bret). They both agreed in 1996 Bret would put over HBK at WM 12 if HBK put over Hart at WM 13. Secondly, what 3 or 4 matches are you talking about between the two post-survivor series 1997? The original outcome to the Survivor Series '97 match was supposed to be Hart by DQ and that was (to the best of my knowledge) the last match between the two in order to allow a proper build-up to the proposed Hart-Austin WM 14 match. Maybe one more match at the Rumble was scheduled, but I don't recall such. On topic, yeah I definitely think immaturity behind the scenes needs to be address and eliminated. Reading this straight off of another forum I visit where a very educated (on wrestling history) poster made the following statement: And the plan presented to Bret, under the guise of wanting him to stay, but in reality getting him to leave, was to lose Shawn at SS, lose at the December IYH as part of a Fatal Four-Way, lose to Shawn in a ladder match the Rumble, beat HBK the next night on Raw where Bret would say he'd retire if he didn't win, and then drop the strap to Austin at WM XIV. Of course, seeing four major losses in a row, with only one win, Bret naturally declined.This, I believe, can also be attributed to Meltzer for the information at the given time. |
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Post by carly1988 on Apr 28, 2008 0:38:35 GMT -5
Steve Austin and the Rock still hate each other to this day... Dwane Johnson and Steve Austin Williams just don't.  Fixed again....Steves name is Legally Steve Austin..He had it changed Fixed it. |
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Apr 28, 2008 1:49:13 GMT -5
I have to examine the bolded statement above. First off, HBK & Hart's WM 13 re-match was canceled due to HBK "losing his smile" (aka faking injury to avoid losing to Bret). They both agreed in 1996 Bret would put over HBK at WM 12 if HBK put over Hart at WM 13. Secondly, what 3 or 4 matches are you talking about between the two post-survivor series 1997? The original outcome to the Survivor Series '97 match was supposed to be Hart by DQ and that was (to the best of my knowledge) the last match between the two in order to allow a proper build-up to the proposed Hart-Austin WM 14 match. Maybe one more match at the Rumble was scheduled, but I don't recall such. On topic, yeah I definitely think immaturity behind the scenes needs to be address and eliminated. Reading this straight off of another forum I visit where a very educated (on wrestling history) poster made the following statement: And the plan presented to Bret, under the guise of wanting him to stay, but in reality getting him to leave, was to lose Shawn at SS, lose at the December IYH as part of a Fatal Four-Way, lose to Shawn in a ladder match the Rumble, beat HBK the next night on Raw where Bret would say he'd retire if he didn't win, and then drop the strap to Austin at WM XIV. Of course, seeing four major losses in a row, with only one win, Bret naturally declined.This, I believe, can also be attributed to Meltzer for the information at the given time. Yeah, I heard that too Plus, to everyone asking how I know about Austin and Rock, watch The Mania Of WrestleMania, Rock clearly states; "He hated me, I got on his nerves soo much", speaking about teh Rattlesnake |
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Post by tommyglamm on Apr 28, 2008 2:38:04 GMT -5
regarding Hart & Michaels...people need to get over that sh*t already. Dude it was 10 years ago. The two had one good match that I can remember (that was actually shown). Who gives a ratsass if they hated eachother, they both took a turn for the better (or worse, depending on how you look at it)
I wouldve have done the same thing Shawn did if in that situation
as for Rock/Austin, I never knew they "hated"eachother. Now HHH/Rock...i get that
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