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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 12:55:22 GMT -5
Seriously, stop being so biased and ignorant. seriously look in the mirror buddy..you are very biased towards Lesnar who again..PROVED NOTHING in a victory against Herring....all he proved was he can take someone down...well no **** hes huge..but DID nothing to try and win the fight.. I dont give a **** how elitist and "in the know" you think you are...Brock doesnt deserve this title shot, and you are still riding on Brock and Biased towards him..that simple. Ignorance spills from your mouth as well little boy. I guess maybe you will be shut up when Brock realizes he is overmatched , and is nowhere NEAR the skill Randy is...and Randy taps him out in the 3rd round. You keep saying the same thing over and over. Please, inform me who deserves a shot over Brock. I've named all the other HW contenders in the UFC. All of them are in the EXACT...SAME...BOAT. The only person you can even argue is Werdum, and even that's debatable. Werdum lost his toughest fight in the UFC to date (AA), beat Gonzaga (who again, is very over rated) and beat Vera (who is a true LHW). Werdum also...and read this carefully...HAS A FIGHT IN OCTOBER. And you can REALLY stop saying Brock Lesnar did "NOTHING" in that fight against Herring. The more you say it, the more I question if you have even watched the fight yet. Brock caused massive damage. (see: Heath Herrings face) Brock worked while on the ground (see: Brock Lesnar's knees to Heath Herrings ribs; see: hammerfists to the ears and already wounded eye/face) Brock took down Heath Herring at WILL. The only person that did absolutely nothing in that fight....was Herring. He had zero offense. He attempted a couple of knees in the clinch, and really had no effect. Other than that, he was a rag doll for god sakes. Maybe you should actually watch an MMA fight, because at this point, I wonder if you just search youtube and fast forward to the winner so you have something to complain about. |
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Post by fattic on Sept 3, 2008 13:50:12 GMT -5
This will be epic if it happend. Couture shocked me when he beat Tim, I'm sure he can do it again with Brock.
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Post by Codesters on Sept 3, 2008 14:07:49 GMT -5
This will be epic if it happend. Couture shocked me when he beat Tim, I'm sure he can do it again with Brock. Well It's going to November 15th. |
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:08:55 GMT -5
beat Gonzaga (who again, is very over rated) . Herring is over rated..for someone to actually think Herring is a quality opponent, is severly mistaken..I dont care what you think about The GReat God That Is Brock Lesnar...he did nothing in that fight...a few flurries while on the ground. and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin... you say how Werdum hasnt had quality opponents and lost to the good ones..lets take a look at Herrings QUALITY "quality" winsNik Bickle Rocky Batastini Willie Peeters Mark Kerr (maybe the only decent win for him) Gan McGee (seriously ?? a poor mans Tim Sylvia) Brad Imes (umm yeah) Cheick Kongo (Kudos he now has 1 good win) LossesBig Nog (3  in times) Mirko Cro Cop Jake O Brien (serious ?? the guy you make fun of other people for beating) Fedor Emilianenko Vitor Belfort looks like ALL of Herrings wins were against CHUMPS and people at the END of their careers..and his big fights, he got his ass kicks in all of them. so did you expect Brock Lesnar to actually have a tough time taking down a bitch like Herring..again HERRING IS NOT A QUALITY OPPONENT. Brock Lesnar DOES NOT DESERVE a shot at Randy ing Couture ! just get over it..I understand..you think Brock is King and everyone else is over rated and trash. Im done with you, you have a one track mind...and thats "oh i need to hang from Brocks balls" ...Ill just let Randy do the talking for me, when he submits Brock. |
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Post by Codesters on Sept 3, 2008 14:20:54 GMT -5
beat Gonzaga (who again, is very over rated) . Herring is over rated..for someone to actually think Herring is a quality opponent, is severly mistaken..I dont care what you think about The GReat God That Is Brock Lesnar...he did nothing in that fight...a few flurries while on the ground. and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin... you say how Werdum hasnt had quality opponents and lost to the good ones..lets take a look at Herrings QUALITY "quality" winsNik Bickle Rocky Batastini Willie Peeters Mark Kerr (maybe the only decent win for him) Gan McGee (seriously ?? a poor mans Tim Sylvia) Brad Imes (umm yeah) Cheick Kongo (Kudos he now has 1 good win) LossesBig Nog (3 in times) Mirko Cro Cop Jake O Brien (serious ?? the guy you make fun of other people for beating) Fedor Emilianenko Vitor Belfort looks like ALL of Herrings wins were against CHUMPS and people at the END of their careers..and his big fights, he got his ass kicks in all of them. so did you expect Brock Lesnar to actually have a tough time taking down a bitch like Herring..again HERRING IS NOT A QUALITY OPPONENT. Brock Lesnar DOES NOT DESERVE a shot at Randy ing Couture ! just get over it..I understand..you think Brock is King and everyone else is over rated and trash. Im done with you, you have a one track mind...and thats "oh i need to hang from Brocks balls" ...Ill just let Randy do the talking for me, when he submits Brock. Okay, the "I've been watching UFC longer than you" argument is severely intellectually- disabled. I'm sorry but no one gives two craps Werther or not you're Dana ing White himself. Everyone here has some credibility as an MMA fan in general, cause if they didn't they wouldn't come here and engage in conversation about MMA. Get over yourself. |
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:24:48 GMT -5
beat Gonzaga (who again, is very over rated) . Herring is over rated..for someone to actually think Herring is a quality opponent, is severly mistaken..I dont care what you think about The GReat God That Is Brock Lesnar...he did nothing in that fight...a few flurries while on the ground. and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin... you say how Werdum hasnt had quality opponents and lost to the good ones..lets take a look at Herrings QUALITY "quality" winsNik Bickle Rocky Batastini Willie Peeters Mark Kerr (maybe the only decent win for him) Gan McGee (seriously ?? a poor mans Tim Sylvia) Brad Imes (umm yeah) Cheick Kongo (Kudos he now has 1 good win) LossesBig Nog (3 in times) Mirko Cro Cop Jake O Brien (serious ?? the guy you make fun of other people for beating) Fedor Emilianenko Vitor Belfort looks like ALL of Herrings wins were against CHUMPS and people at the END of their careers..and his big fights, he got his ass kicks in all of them. so did you expect Brock Lesnar to actually have a tough time taking down a bitch like Herring..again HERRING IS NOT A QUALITY OPPONENT. Brock Lesnar DOES NOT DESERVE a shot at Randy ing Couture ! just get over it..I understand..you think Brock is King and everyone else is over rated and trash. Im done with you, you have a one track mind...and thats "oh i need to hang from Brocks balls" ...Ill just let Randy do the talking for me, when he submits Brock. Funny, I'm older than you, yet you call me "youngin'" ...further proving your ignorance. You STILL...STILL have not shown me another HW that should challenge Lesnar for his title. Heath Herring was a top 15 HW, top 10 in the UFC prior to the Lesnar loss. Herring's REAL noteable wins: -Cheick Kongo -Mark Kerr -Igor Vovchanchyn (You know, the guy that is widely considered one of the best 3 strikers, EVER) -Evan Tanner Did you really call Rocky Batastini a quality opponent? What did you do, go to sherdog and start naming people you thought sounded cool? (8-19) is QUALITY now? Nik Bickle? His (0-1) record is quality? Willie Peeters? (9-10)....WHAT?! You've just proven you know nothing about MMA and you talk out of your ass. And if you want to talk about just laying there doing nothing for a win...check back that Jake O'Brien fight, please. Who did Kongo beat to be a "Real good fighter?" His multiple knee to the crotch win over CC was really nothing to be proud of. Other than that, he's beat who...Assuerio Silva? And he lost to who? Heath Herring... Heath Herring was a legit HW. Seriously, after your latest thread, you have lost almost all your credibility. You just make crap up. Go away. |
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:26:26 GMT -5
Okay, the "I've been watching UFC longer than you" argument is severely intellectually- disabled. . wow way to ADD nothing to the conversation..you should have actually read what was typed by myself and Mr jose reyes dude. he said I probably dont watch MMA at all, and I said that Ive been watching MMA since he was in middle school...where was it ever a "ive been watching MMA longer than you" Arguement ??..where did I say Ive been watching longer than you? when did I even imply it was that kinda statement...exactly.. off... |
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:29:03 GMT -5
Herring is over rated..for someone to actually think Herring is a quality opponent, is severly mistaken..I dont care what you think about The GReat God That Is Brock Lesnar...he did nothing in that fight...a few flurries while on the ground. and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin... you say how Werdum hasnt had quality opponents and lost to the good ones..lets take a look at Herrings QUALITY "quality" winsNik Bickle Rocky Batastini Willie Peeters Mark Kerr (maybe the only decent win for him) Gan McGee (seriously ?? a poor mans Tim Sylvia) Brad Imes (umm yeah) Cheick Kongo (Kudos he now has 1 good win) LossesBig Nog (3 in times) Mirko Cro Cop Jake O Brien (serious ?? the guy you make fun of other people for beating) Fedor Emilianenko Vitor Belfort looks like ALL of Herrings wins were against CHUMPS and people at the END of their careers..and his big fights, he got his ass kicks in all of them. so did you expect Brock Lesnar to actually have a tough time taking down a bitch like Herring..again HERRING IS NOT A QUALITY OPPONENT. Brock Lesnar DOES NOT DESERVE a shot at Randy ing Couture ! just get over it..I understand..you think Brock is King and everyone else is over rated and trash. Im done with you, you have a one track mind...and thats "oh i need to hang from Brocks balls" ...Ill just let Randy do the talking for me, when he submits Brock. Funny, I'm older than you, yet you call me "youngin'" ...further proving your ignorance. You STILL...STILL have not shown me another HW that should challenge Lesnar for his title. Heath Herring was a top 15 HW, top 10 in the UFC prior to the Lesnar loss. Herring's REAL noteable wins: -Cheick Kongo -Mark Kerr -Igor Vovchanchyn (You know, the guy that is widely considered one of the best 3 strikers, EVER) -Evan Tanner Did you really call Rocky Batastini a quality opponent? What did you do, go to sherdog and start naming people you thought sounded cool? (8-19) is QUALITY now? Nik Bickle? His (0-1) record is quality? Willie Peeters? (9-10)....WHAT?! You've just proven you know nothing about MMA and you talk out of your ass. And if you want to talk about just laying there doing nothing for a win...check back that Jake O'Brien fight, please. Who did Kongo beat to be a "Real good fighter?" His multiple knee to the crotch win over CC was really nothing to be proud of. Other than that, he's beat who...Assuerio Silva? And he lost to who? Heath Herring... Heath Herring was a legit HW. Seriously, after your latest thread, you have lost almost all your credibility. You just make **** up. Go away. all of your credibility is crap by nut riding..If you didnt notice the word quality had some bunny ears on it..im making fun of the fact that all of Herrings WIN, are trash..there is maybe 1 or 2 quality opponents he has won against, and all his beig fights he got his ass kicked...so if you think that in beating Herring that Brock..after being 2-1 deserves a title shot..definately any "credibility" you think you had is completely void. |
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:29:08 GMT -5
Okay, the "I've been watching UFC longer than you" argument is severely intellectually- disabled. . wow way to ADD nothing to the conversation..you should have actually read what was typed by myself and Mr jose reyes dude. he said I probably dont watch MMA at all, and I said that Ive been watching MMA since he was in middle school...where was it ever a "ive been watching MMA longer than you" Arguement ??..where did I say Ive been watching longer than you? when did I even imply it was that kinda statement...exactly.. off... Willie Peeters, Nik Bickle and Rocky Batastini called, they want you represent them as their new agent/manager since you've done a "great" job talking up 3 guys who never had real careers. You make crap up and talk out of your ass. Go away. |
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Post by Codesters on Sept 3, 2008 14:30:23 GMT -5
Okay, the "I've been watching UFC longer than you" argument is severely intellectually- disabled. . wow way to ADD nothing to the conversation..you should have actually read what was typed by myself and Mr jose reyes dude. he said I probably dont watch MMA at all, and I said that Ive been watching MMA since he was in middle school...where was it ever a "ive been watching MMA longer than you" Arguement ??..where did I say Ive been watching longer than you? when did I even imply it was that kinda statement...exactly.. off... "and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin..." ......Really? |
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:31:43 GMT -5
Funny, I'm older than you, yet you call me "youngin'" ...further proving your ignorance. You STILL...STILL have not shown me another HW that should challenge Lesnar for his title. Heath Herring was a top 15 HW, top 10 in the UFC prior to the Lesnar loss. Herring's REAL noteable wins: -Cheick Kongo -Mark Kerr -Igor Vovchanchyn (You know, the guy that is widely considered one of the best 3 strikers, EVER) -Evan Tanner Did you really call Rocky Batastini a quality opponent? What did you do, go to sherdog and start naming people you thought sounded cool? (8-19) is QUALITY now? Nik Bickle? His (0-1) record is quality? Willie Peeters? (9-10)....WHAT?! You've just proven you know nothing about MMA and you talk out of your ass. And if you want to talk about just laying there doing nothing for a win...check back that Jake O'Brien fight, please. Who did Kongo beat to be a "Real good fighter?" His multiple knee to the crotch win over CC was really nothing to be proud of. Other than that, he's beat who...Assuerio Silva? And he lost to who? Heath Herring... Heath Herring was a legit HW. Seriously, after your latest thread, you have lost almost all your credibility. You just make **** up. Go away. all of your credibility is **** by nut riding..If you didnt notice the word quality had some bunny ears on it..im making fun of the fact that all of Herrings WIN, are trash..there is maybe 1 or 2 quality opponents he has won against, and all his beig fights he got his ass kicked...so if you think that in beating Herring that Brock..after being 2-1 deserves a title shot..definately any "credibility" you think you had is completely void. Right...you went on sherdog and started naming people you thought sounded cool to sound like a "long time fan." And you STILL have not named ANYONE that should get the shot over Lesnar. Werdum hasn't beat anyone (in the UFC) of more value than Lesnar, and fights in October. Maybe Randy should have fought Nik Bickle instead. |
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:39:53 GMT -5
You make **** up and talk out of your ass. Go away. and youve done NOTHING BUT THE SAME man..youve made up crap to appease yourself into beleiving that Brock is sooo worthy of his match with Couture...the funny part is you proabably think Brock can beat him..haha..what a laugh. |
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:40:46 GMT -5
You make **** up and talk out of your ass. Go away. and youve done NOTHING BUT THE SAME man..youve made up **** to appease yourself into beleiving that Brock is sooo worthy of his match with Couture...the funny part is you proabably think Brock can beat him..haha..what a laugh. What "crap" have I made up? I'd love to know. |
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:41:18 GMT -5
wow way to ADD nothing to the conversation..you should have actually read what was typed by myself and Mr jose reyes dude. he said I probably dont watch MMA at all, and I said that Ive been watching MMA since he was in middle school...where was it ever a "ive been watching MMA longer than you" Arguement ??..where did I say Ive been watching longer than you? when did I even imply it was that kinda statement...exactly.. off... "and Ive watched just about every UFC fight probably since youve been in middle school youngin..." ......Really? really ?? isnt thas jsut saying ive been watching for a long time ? yeah I think so...dude butt out of it...you obivously are just trying to make friends with Reyes over there..your arguement makes no sense whatsoever |
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:48:25 GMT -5
mmajunkie.com/news/5068/heath-herring-recovering-from-injury-disappointment-after-loss-to-brock-lesnar.mmaThere's a fun article. He says he felt great. Lesnar won 30-26... But yeah, you're right...Lesnar didn't dominate Heath Herring at all.......   Yup...didn't do a thing... Face the facts. Brock beat a top 10 HW in the UFC and you're upset he's getting a title shot, really, for no reason at all. NO ONE ELSE DESERVES TO BE IN THAT SPOT. The ONLY other person you could make an argument for, is Werdum, and that will be a weak argument. Not to mention... HE FIGHTS IN OCTOBER
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Post by Blehschmidt on Sept 3, 2008 14:48:29 GMT -5
I have to agree that Brock is not deserving of a title shot. A 1-1 record should not be getting a title shot even if the record holder was God himself!
I will not disagree that Brock whipped Herring's ass in every sense of the word, and looked mighty impressive doing it. I just don't think he's ready.
The main problem is that there are no other viable contenders for the title shot. Frank Mir doesn't deserve one either.
What really should be happening is Randy v.s. Nog for the belt, but unfortunately this season of The Ultimate Fighter has already been filmed, and it builds to the Nog/Mir fight.
So, I understand why the UFC is doing what it is doing, but I don't agree.
Furthermore, I just can't understand how anyone can bet against Randy Couture...the man is in his 40's and beating guy's half his age and twice his size.
HOW DO YOU PICK AGAINST THAT!!!!
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 14:51:52 GMT -5
by being a bandwagon BROCK IS GOD lover like mr Reyes there...thats how you pick against that
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Post by DWright on Sept 3, 2008 14:55:38 GMT -5
by being a bandwagon BROCK IS GOD lover like mr Reyes there...thats how you pick against that It's funny...I'm not even a huge Brock fan. I'm rooting for him to succeed...you're just wearing blinders. You have not once, in any post, mentioned who you'd put in his place to face Randy Couture instead. You have NO problems with Frank Mir getting a title shot, even though he beat Antoni Hardonk and Brock Lesnar. You have NO problems with the fact that Randy Couture hasn't fought in over a YEAR. You just have a problem that Joel Silva put a guy that makes sense, into a fight that makes sense. Hmmm... |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Sept 3, 2008 15:07:25 GMT -5
Do I think Brock looked impressive in his victory over Herring? Nope. Not at all.
Did he do more than his opponite? Yes. He deserved the win. No doubt at all about that.
It reminds me of a young Josh Koscheck. They both were excellent wrestlers and used that ability to blanket their opponite. Is it a cheap way to get a victory? Sure. But you have to realize they are young to the sport.
To me their is nobody that deserves a title shot except Brock. Since Mir and Nog are tied up. And Liddell hasn't moved up in weight yet. Affliction by far has the better HW division. And that is were UFC messed up. By letting guys like Arlovski and hell even Big Tim get away.
This fight is all about the money. Nothing more nothing less. If you are a company you are going to put on the fights that are going to make you the most money. And this is definetly it. How many times did we need to see Tito bash up Shamrock? Money. Did Royce deserve a title shot against Hughes? Nope. But it made an ass load of money.
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Post by Graze on Sept 3, 2008 15:27:20 GMT -5
Brock in the only big money heavyweight they can match with Randy who isn't named Fedor  This isn't about if Brock should get a title match or not, it's about making money, which UFC will do with this fight. |
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